SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

60,000 people from all over the country congregating in close proximity to each other. How the feck can they claim this is not dangerous, but walking on the streets less than 2m from strangers is dangerous? It was stupid as feck, and they deserve to be roundly criticized for it.

Yeah and chanting and singing would project the virus about a lot.
 
Nah we should be glad they get tested first. It's highly likely that Prince Charles meets more people, and more new people a day than you and me



If possible get yourself tested soon please. For your sake and everyone else.
Right now he shouldn’t be meeting any new people.
 
If you don't like the next in line to the throne getting preferential treatment, don't have a throne.

While you do have a royal family though then it goes without saying that they will get preferential treatment in situations like this, in much the same way they would get security that others don't in a different context. If you have a royal family then the state is invested in protecting them, simple as that. They get that status simply based on who they are.

Obviously that isn't fair but then the concept of royalty has nothing to do with being fair.
 
Our daily lives wouldn't change, but that's not the issue. The UK has a monarchy (like it or not) and they are still important people simply because of the office they hold - just like Boris Johnson. They get first-class medical care because that's what happens when you are at the top of the social tree in any country, just as these people never have to go to the shops, never do their own cleaning, never have to queue, get the best quality of travel every time they need to go somewhere. It's not fair, but fairness doesn't come into it when you're rich and famous.

And in any case, a lot of British people are still strong supporters of the monarchy. They're certainly not universally despised!
They’re important because people say they are. The very fact they could all die and nothing would change show they are not any more important than anyone else. I don’t like Boris Johnson but he actually is important and ‘earned’ his position.
 
If you don't like the next in line to the throne getting preferential treatment, don't have a throne.

While you do have a royal family though then it goes without saying that they will get preferential treatment in situations like this, in much the same way they would get security that others don't in a different context. If you have a royal family then the state is invested in protecting them, simple as that. They get that status simply based on who they are.

Obviously that isn't fair but then the concept of royalty has nothing to do with being fair.
Good idea. I’ll just not have one then. Can I do that online?
 
if you're that desperate to get a test, just drop on down to Harley Street. £375 and it's all yours. or just stay in doors.
 
Intensive Care nurse in her 20s from Kings College hospital where 8 people have died from coronavirus has killed herself.

Can only despair at what she’s been through in recent days/weeks.

RIP
 
Intensive Care nurse in her 20s from Kings College hospital where 8 people have died from coronavirus has killed herself.

Can only despair at what she’s been through in recent days/weeks.

RIP

RIP, that sounds horrible.
 
Intensive Care nurse in her 20s from Kings College hospital where 8 people have died from coronavirus has killed herself.

Can only despair at what she’s been through in recent days/weeks.

RIP

feckin hell. :(

I desperately hope there's a public outcry to help all those in the NHS after the dust has settled. They all need support.
 
Intensive Care nurse in her 20s from Kings College hospital where 8 people have died from coronavirus has killed herself.

Can only despair at what she’s been through in recent days/weeks.

RIP

RIP :(

The mental health of people being stuck in their homes has oft been discussed, but the mental health of the Health Care professionals who are having to deal with this on the front lines is too often getting forgotten about, I hope the support needed for them is available
 
Intensive Care nurse in her 20s from Kings College hospital where 8 people have died from coronavirus has killed herself.

Can only despair at what she’s been through in recent days/weeks.

RIP

My god that is absolutely heartbreaking. I can’t imagine how difficult it is for these people on the front line and she no doubt didn’t see any signs of it letting up :(
 
Intensive Care nurse in her 20s from Kings College hospital where 8 people have died from coronavirus has killed herself.

Can only despair at what she’s been through in recent days/weeks.

RIP
It's just miserable.

It needs to get through to everybody that this thing is serious and painful and horrible. The "Lot's of people had a good time" people need to quickly grow the feck up.
 
Not sure if there's a better thread to ask employment related question.

My employer are a private healthcare provider (care homes and behavioural schools). As our kids are considered vulnerable we have remained open. The company have just sent out a briefing outlining guidelines for different situations. The crux of these were, if you come into contact with a child in work with a confirmed case you are to carry on as normal and not self isolate. If in extreme circumstances where you may live with a high risk person they may pay for alternative accommodation for you for a week. At each point they made they made it abundantly clear that they would not be paying anyone, anything if they self isolate. That includes SSP.

Surely this would be a case for whistleblowing? The directors are endangering the lives of the staff and children as far as I'm concerned and forcing people to ignore the government's advice.
 
The facts, most countries in Western Europe are struggling to contain the virus, yes the lockdowns are just getting started etc but Italy has had a lockdown for over 2 weeks. Wuham that has 11 million people and China that has 1.3 billion has had less daily deaths then Lombardy at its peak, this does not seem a little suspicious to you. Now you can argue that the lockdowns are more serve in China but the number of people are also far greater in China then just Lombardy and yet Lombardy on its own had had a far greater number of deaths then the whole of China and this is even during the peak of the daily death rate. I like to believe they are telling the truth honest I would but I doubt those figures.
Let's not start hoarding tinfoil too, mate.
 
Not sure if there's a better thread to ask employment related question.

My employer are a private healthcare provider (care homes and behavioural schools). As our kids are considered vulnerable we have remained open. The company have just sent out a briefing outlining guidelines for different situations. The crux of these were, if you come into contact with a child in work with a confirmed case you are to carry on as normal and not self isolate. If in extreme circumstances where you may live with a high risk person they may pay for alternative accommodation for you for a week. At each point they made they made it abundantly clear that they would not be paying anyone, anything if they self isolate. That includes SSP.

Surely this would be a case for whistleblowing? The directors are endangering the lives of the staff and children as far as I'm concerned and forcing people to ignore the government's advice.

Sounds dodgy as hell.
 
Not sure if there's a better thread to ask employment related question.

My employer are a private healthcare provider (care homes and behavioural schools). As our kids are considered vulnerable we have remained open. The company have just sent out a briefing outlining guidelines for different situations. The crux of these were, if you come into contact with a child in work with a confirmed case you are to carry on as normal and not self isolate. If in extreme circumstances where you may live with a high risk person they may pay for alternative accommodation for you for a week. At each point they made they made it abundantly clear that they would not be paying anyone, anything if they self isolate. That includes SSP.

Surely this would be a case for whistleblowing? The directors are endangering the lives of the staff and children as far as I'm concerned and forcing people to ignore the government's advice.

Definitely report them. Some employers are showing themselves to be fecking sociopaths during this crisis, and they need to be investigated, shamed and punished where appropriate.
 
Some stories coming out here about very young people being unable to catch a breath when infected. Really scary. I really doubt that a high percentage of cases will be 'asymptomatic' unless there is a medical reason why people in seemingly similar condition would have such different responses to being infected.
 


Was scrolling through Twitter and this Tweet provoked a visceral reaction from me. I obviously don’t know the people involved here, but it was more of a general response regarding funerals at this time. They’re hard enough as it is, as I’m sure many on here have experienced, but imagine going through one now?

You can’t even be comforted with a hug or a reassuring hand on the back as you bury your loved one. Instead, you have to stand a certain distance apart, immediate family only, not even able to reach out for someone’s hand. Very cruel.
 
Not sure if there's a better thread to ask employment related question.

My employer are a private healthcare provider (care homes and behavioural schools). As our kids are considered vulnerable we have remained open. The company have just sent out a briefing outlining guidelines for different situations. The crux of these were, if you come into contact with a child in work with a confirmed case you are to carry on as normal and not self isolate. If in extreme circumstances where you may live with a high risk person they may pay for alternative accommodation for you for a week. At each point they made they made it abundantly clear that they would not be paying anyone, anything if they self isolate. That includes SSP.

Surely this would be a case for whistleblowing? The directors are endangering the lives of the staff and children as far as I'm concerned and forcing people to ignore the government's advice.
Yes, report them.

Our staff work 5 day shifts, the children's homes are already self-isolating in as much as they aren't leaving the homes or school although we've changed the curriculum to hobbies, art and projects and each homes grounds are big enough to play various sports. All we can ask is that staff self-distance off shift but where they have families we have to see how this goes and maybe accept that they will become unavailable through contact and self-isolating. We've made no decision not to pay staff full salaries or SSP but while we can they'll draw salaries. As far as I'm concerned they are all keyworkers, we can't send kids home so we have to back them up.
 
I am getting increasingly more and more annoyed at my father. He is a creature of habit and is used to popping out a few times a day but he is still going on out everyday to stock up food and tidbits, despite being elderly and high risk due to underlying health conditions. At this point, you can only help someone so much. We've sat down and had a chat with him and we thought he understood but evidently not. I still don't think he understands how selfish he is being, particularly towards my mother.
 
Not sure if there's a better thread to ask employment related question.

My employer are a private healthcare provider (care homes and behavioural schools). As our kids are considered vulnerable we have remained open. The company have just sent out a briefing outlining guidelines for different situations. The crux of these were, if you come into contact with a child in work with a confirmed case you are to carry on as normal and not self isolate. If in extreme circumstances where you may live with a high risk person they may pay for alternative accommodation for you for a week. At each point they made they made it abundantly clear that they would not be paying anyone, anything if they self isolate. That includes SSP.

Surely this would be a case for whistleblowing? The directors are endangering the lives of the staff and children as far as I'm concerned and forcing people to ignore the government's advice.

Yes i would agree that they're endangering staff with that form of policy - Might be worth giving ACAS a call to get some guidance - https://www.acas.org.uk/coronavirus/if-someone-has-coronavirus-symptoms-at-work

If you are paid directly for the employer, they cannot withhold SSP if they've been told to self isolate by NHS 111.
 
Some stories coming out here about very young people being unable to catch a breath when infected. Really scary. I really doubt that a high percentage of cases will be 'asymptomatic' unless there is a medical reason why people in seemingly similar condition would have such different responses to being infected.

Same happens if you get pneumonia as a young person too.
 


Was scrolling through Twitter and this Tweet provoked a visceral reaction from me. I obviously don’t know the people involved here, but it was more of a general response regarding funerals at this time. They’re hard enough as it is, as I’m sure many on here have experienced, but imagine going through one now?

You can’t even be comforted with a hug or a reassuring hand on the back as you bury your loved one. Instead, you have to stand a certain distance apart, immediate family only, not even able to reach out for someone’s hand. Very cruel.


It's getting pretty horrific here now in that respect. Funerals are banned and they have already been sending coffins in army convoys to crematoriums in nearby provinces because they can't cremate the bodies fast enough, and now they are starting to run out of coffins too.
 
sucks about the people that are passing away during this time since we can’t even have a proper funeral they deserve. Reminds me of Chernobyl tv show. Just cement the graves. Least it’s not like that thank god. It’s horrible, especially since they won’t let you say goodbye in their final moments. Couldn’t they not just dress them up in some hazmat suit. I wouldn’t care. If I have to fight every donator to say goodbye, I would. To hell with it.
 
Yes i would agree that they're endangering staff with that form of policy - Might be worth giving ACAS a call to get some guidance - https://www.acas.org.uk/coronavirus/if-someone-has-coronavirus-symptoms-at-work

If you are paid directly for the employer, they cannot withhold SSP if they've been told to self isolate by NHS 111.

The problem is the company are using the fact it says

If someone with coronavirus comes to work, the workplace does not necessarily have to close, but they should follow cleaning advice.
 
I am getting increasingly more and more annoyed at my father. He is a creature of habit and is used to popping out a few times a day but he is still going on out everyday to stock up food and tidbits, despite being elderly and high risk due to underlying health conditions. At this point, you can only help someone so much. We've sat down and had a chat with him and we thought he understood but evidently not. I still don't think he understands how selfish he is being, particularly towards my mother.
Yep, my dad's exactly the same. He's in his mid 60s and has had hypertension for years now, but he insists on going out himself to do shopping or get his medicine. We tell him to at least wear gloves if he's going to be stubborn but he refuses to do that too.