SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Fener1907 said:
Running marathons is one of the last things somebody should do if they want to be considered healthy. Fit, sure. Healthy, no.

It's silly how that's used to imply somebody is inherently healthy, not to mention how it neglects every other variable in their life that an observer can't possibly account for.
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Being fit and healthy are of course massively relative scales.

Generally being able to run a decent marathon shows you're pretty fit AND healthy - not sure what distinction you're making there.
It's not a sport you can do well in if you're unhealthy.

You get people doddling marathons out in 7-8 hours which might be your point I suppose.
 
We're in complete lockdown now. Only allowed to go to do essential shopping, pharmacies and walk the dog. Bless the dog, I'll still be getting my share of fresh air.
 
11101 said:
The slightest bit of research effort would tell you it didn't originate in the US.
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Well post it then, you nob.

Where did the 2009 H1N1 flu virus come from?
The 2009 H1N1 influenza virus (referred to as “swine flu” early on) was first detected in people in the United States in April 2009. This virus was originally referred to as “swine flu” because laboratory testing showed that its gene segments were similar to influenza viruses that were most recently identified in and known to circulate among pigs. CDC believes that this virus resulted from reassortment, a process through which two or more influenza viruses can swap genetic information by infecting a single human or animal host. When reassortment does occur, the virus that emerges will have some gene segments from each of the infecting parent viruses and may have different characteristics than either of the parental viruses, just as children may exhibit unique characteristics that are like both of their parents. In this case, the reassortment appears most likely to have occurred between influenza viruses circulating in North American pig herds and among Eurasian pig herds. Reassortment of influenza viruses can result in abrupt, major changes in influenza viruses, also known as “antigenic shift.” When shift happens, most people have little or no protection against the new influenza virus that results.


https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/information_h1n1_virus_qa.htm
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The best alternative I found was it starting in Mexico.
 
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SirAF said:
One look at Twitter shows that a lot of Americans thinks this is just the common cold and are up in arms about "freedom of movement" yada yada. FFS!
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Probably doesn't help that their president was so casual about it for so long, calls it the "China virus" and has said they'll soon be fine. Based on seemingly nothing.
 
redshaw said:
Some good news in Spain, a drop in deaths to 385 and 4537 cases but this could be from Sunday/Monday slowdown.
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You can see a big drop in deaths around sunday/monday. 10th, 16th, 24th



I saw the tweet which says "essentially immune" Which means when looking at the stats there's so few, so therefore essentially immune. Doesn't mean every kid is immune, it's like almost or virtually. There's no need to witch hunt or leave out words. When a football game is 5-0 with 5 mins to go it's "essentially over" but isn't quite over, just a figure of speech.
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They are not essentially immune. It's killed kids. A good deed is a good nonetheless, whether it's for publicity or not (even though a 1000 looks like a huge number, it's probably less than a very small fraction of what California need).
 
Moiraine said:
OMG .... Speechless
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User GayShawnMendes has also now posted a video showing from a hospital bed saying they've tested postive for the coronavirus.

Personally, I think the hospital should be shown the 1st video and his hospital bed be given to someone who didn't lick a toilet bowl like a jackass.
 
Sweet Square said:
Wtf is up with these old people

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Stupid bitch doesn't realise that there are fairly young people who have quite significant comorbidities, which puts them at risk, nevermind the viral load which healthy doctors and nurses get exposed to. What a dumb bitch.
 
Sweet Square said:
Wtf is up with these old people

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Jeez that was making my blood boil! What an absolute selfish cow she really is. Folk like that are what is wrong with this country and I will have no sympathy for her, or any other person that thinks the same way if they end up catching this virus.
 
Sandikan said:
Being fit and healthy are of course massively relative scales.

Generally being able to run a decent marathon shows you're pretty fit AND healthy - not sure what distinction you're making there.
It's not a sport you can do well in if you're unhealthy.

You get people doddling marathons out in 7-8 hours which might be your point I suppose.
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From Runners World:
People at the highest risk for the 2019-nCoV coronavirus are the elderly. Runners who are training normally don’t have to worry any more than the average person, but Nieman points out that runners who have just finished a long race, such as a half-marathon or marathon, are at a higher risk.

“In general, for runners who are going through their normal training —and not overtraining— the training program enhances the ability of the immune system to detect and deal with pathogens. Runners are, in fact, less likely to get ill with an upper respiratory tract infection like coronavirus,” Nieman said.

Runners—and others who exercise regularly—are generally less likely to get sick with these types of infections than people who aren’t active, Nieman added. The exception? Those who are overtraining or who have just completed a race.

“When you get to the high end of training and/or a postrace situation, then you are more vulnerable to infection,” he said. “For example, after a marathon, runners are six times more likely to get ill with a respiratory infection than in people who didn’t race, because in a race you will always push harder than you would in training. This causes a lot of stress to your immune system, which increases your risk of coming down with an infection in the coming weeks.”
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If you are a regular runner it's good to keep up the exercise. If you ran once every two months before the virus, it's definitely not healthy to go for a (long) run every day now.
 
In Spain of the 39,763 infected people around the country, 5,400 are healthcare staff according to the BBC.

1535 of 2696 deaths are in Madrid. North east Barcelona is becoming a new hotspot for cases overtaking Madrid in the last day so we could see some bad figures again soon.
 
MaxiPaxi said:
Stupid bitch doesn't realise that there are fairly young people who have quite significant comorbidities, which puts them at risk, nevermind the viral load which healthy doctors and nurses get exposed to. What a dumb bitch.
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Agree. Also Her husband as well who didn't go on a walk with her because he's recovering from a stroke!
 
Sweet Square said:
Agree. Also Her husband as well who didn't go on a walk with her because he's recovering from a stroke!
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Yeah it's almost amusing if it wasn't so bloody tragic. Problem is, there are plenty more like her.
 
redshaw said:
In Spain of the 39,763 infected people around the country, 5,400 are healthcare staff according to the BBC.

1535 of 2696 deaths are in Madrid. North east Barcelona is becoming a new hotspot for cases overtaking Madrid in the last day so we could see some bad figures again soon.
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Yet Brussels Airport still has planes arriving from Madrid, full of people who don't even get tested or screened. Maddening.
 
Nogbadthebad said:
At this point, its a health hazard.

Millions are still going to work because the alternative is £94 a week sick pay, and they will starve.

Just pay them all the average national wage, £500 a week. Some people will get it who don't need it, but the alternative is people not having any way of stopping work and continuing to spread the virus.

Give them all the money and they can sit at home like we all want them to.
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There is no fair way of doing it, but the average wage isn’t needed. People should be given enough money to pay rent/mortgage and buy food.

I have a feeling angry self employed people think that everyone else is on 80% pay, which is just not the case by the sounds of it. A lot those in retail and hospitality aren’t going to be paid at all and (without wanting to generalise) probably have less money in the bank than self employed workers.

Makes far more sense to work on mortgage/rent breaks for the self employed. Then the £95 a week is much more realistic.
 
RobinLFC said:
Yet Brussels Airport still has planes arriving from Madrid, full of people who don't even get tested or screened. Maddening.
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Govts should be held responsible and accountable for continuing as if nothing has happened in the world.
 
Properly impressed with my local Tesco Express staff.

There was a sensible distancing que.
Customers could only enter once a another customer would come out.
Hand sanitiser and paper roll was placed for people to enter with clean hands.Plus all shopping carriers,trolleys were also thoroughly cleaned by staff members.
 
Giuseppe Berardelli, the main priest in the town of Casnigo, died last week in Lovere hospital. According to the hospital, he refused to use a respirator his parishioners had bought for him - choosing to give it to a younger patient, instead.

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Residents of Casnigo were reported to have applauded from their windows and balconies as the coffin was taken for burial. There was no funeral.

On Tuesday, Pope Francis led a prayer for the deceased doctors and priests, "thanking God for their heroic example in serving those who were sick".
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52015969

God bless this priest, may his soul rest in peace.
 
FrankDrebin said:
Properly impressed with my local Tesco Express staff.

There was a sensible distancing que.
Customers could only enter once a another customer would come out.
Hand sanitiser and paper roll was placed for people to enter with clean hands.Plus all shopping carriers,trolleys were also thoroughly cleaned by staff members.
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I really hope that these and all the others working in supermarkets, for the NHS, police etc all continue to get the recognition they fully deserve.
 
pascell said:
I really hope that these and all the others working in supermarkets, for the NHS, police etc all continue to get the recognition they fully deserve.
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Indeed.
Also, the customers weren't hoarding either.
Oddly proud. :lol:
 
Igor Drefljak said:
So this is my facebook this morning:



This was her facebook 4 days ago



And this was her boyfriend the day before that



Times like this I want to point out what she did 4 days ago, but it's just not worth the hassle :lol:
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Do it. I'm sorry but people need to wake up on this front. Maybe write it in a way that's tactful and sensitive.....though that might be difficult :lol:
 
RobinLFC said:
From Runners World:


If you are a regular runner it's good to keep up the exercise. If you ran once every two months before the virus, it's definitely not healthy to go for a (long) run every day now.
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Oh i'm a fairly high mileage runner bud, which is what tickled me with the other post.
It's a strange fine line between having better resistance than most a lot of the time, but go over that line and you get run down easily.
 
I am pleading with my parents to cease renovating their house for the time being. Just for a month and they cannot do that. They are so afraid of offending the people who are doing the renovating. Pathetic really.

Good chance they wont have a house to live in because they will be dead.
 
Igor Drefljak said:
So this is my facebook this morning:



This was her facebook 4 days ago



And this was her boyfriend the day before that



Times like this I want to point out what she did 4 days ago, but it's just not worth the hassle :lol:
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I always find posts like this strange even outside the context of a pandemic :

well me and (name) went out tonight for two hours, just us two, nobody else, no close contact with anyone other than family to drop our boys off. thankyou to my amazing helpful family who were there to offer support for work and us being able to actually enjoy time together before we all go into isolation. having children isn’t easy at times but something like this really makes you appreciate what you have and how lucky you are! i understand people are angry at what’s happening and the fear of the unknown but there’s really no need to get mad about people going out and enjoying themselves before who knows how long we’ll have to isolate for. everyone’s entitled to their own opinion like the choices we make are our own, no need to judge

It sounds like she'd actually rather not have the children, as they seem to be causing their love-life a massive inconvenience.
 
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