Then they should implement rules for on the spot heavy fines for people (not living together) caught in more than groups of 2.
Denying people the chance to keep healthy both physically and mentally is going to cause huge issues down the line.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Denying people the chance to keep healthy both physically and mentally is going to cause huge issues down the line.
Well, it does matter. This will end someday and some folk will look back and say 'See? Told you it'd be alright in the end' as they sit and enjoy a pint. Meanwhile those who have lost loved ones and those working within the health sector will feel the ramifications for many years to come.
I just don't take kindly to people shrugging this whole thing off like it's a bad flu. The lack of fear is what prompts people to not self-isolate when they should, and that annoys me because it's me that has deal with the potential consequences.
You not got windows that open? A garden?
It's not ideal but people are being over dramatic about being in lockdown. It's either that, or we have this virus for the next 2-3 years possibly.
I know plenty of people who have been self isolating since they found porn and computer games, they're pretty fine and don't seem to struggle mentally.
Suddenly everyone wants to exercise and go for long walks when they have never once been interested in those thing
BA have specifically said they don't want a bailout as they have 9bn anyway so don't need it. Said the other airlines shouldn't get a bailout as its their own fault if they don't have the funds like they do. One way to get rid of the competition.
Btw, these same airlines are the ones who up prices when school holidays are about, up their prices during world cups. Taking what they can, and then asking for more. Absolute wankers.
Feel sorry for their staff, but the country shouldn't be bailing them this time.
Thanks, have checked the link but can't find anything about when Asthma is classified as 'vulnerable' etc.
In reality, anyone with chronic Asthma should certainly be in that category... I find it slightly baffling if that's not the case.
A nice gesture, but simply impractical to police.
It really isn't, not for a period of 3-4 weeks. Unless you feel the situation in Spain & Italy is worth the risk of having a little walk around the block or a quick 5k?
Since when did alcohol hand sanitiser go out of date? Found a couple bottles in the back of the bathroom cabinet but they’re 2017
Just one flaw in that story: countries have already imposed lockdowns weeks ago and no such instant collapse happened. People are much more resilient than you're suggesting. Some people are going to have to develop that resilience during the crisis.
Exactly, from a nation where we have some of the highest levels of obesity in the Western world. It's the emperor's new clothes!
Not serve in them but control how many people are allowed in (and potentially enforce any limits to stop panic buying) and ensuring the people outside observe social distancing
Do you get pain and pressure in your upper cheek bones that feels like it’s behind your eye? My sinuses are fecked but I’m not sure if this related pain.
You’re making out like they’re gonna lock us in a cupboard.
I'm in this group (except double the age). Should I be expecting a letter this week about the 12 week shielding? I've not been able to get a clear answer from anyone about whether or not I'm high risk. My GP has been very wishy-washy about it, and I've not even been able get in contact with the rheumatologist.
It's ingredients react with oxygen, and most of the containers aren't airtight so you'll see an expiry date as to when it falls below a certain % of effectiveness (usually 90%). It'll have some impact due to the alcohol in it, but it won't be perfect. Wash your hands instead!
Yeah now you mention it, it is fairly unclear what they mean by 'vulnerable'.
I can see that 'extremely vulnerable' means those with cancer and organ transplants.
I suspect it is conditions like diabetes, COPD etc. If you're concerned, a quick call to your GP might just help clear things up so you can live with at least some peace of mind.
Not a fan of any style of lockdowns as it's a power that can easily be abused by governments but what other choice is there?
I have an unused bottle that expired in 2012. Is it safe to use or will my hands melt?
Are you on immunosuppressants? Then i would expect you to be in the 12 week category.
Yes, your sinuses are there. You can find some good representations of their location on google.
Probably due to leaky bottle and evaporation making it less effective.
Probably because numerous people haven't had their other mental releases taken away from them, football, traveling, socialising etc.
Also windows don't cut it and a garden no, I'm on a first floor flat.
Until they get let out and numerous of them are a shadow of their former selves.
I know three people in Italy and two are going of their head and the other is seriously concerned his brother is going the same way.
You’ll be allowed out for a walk ffs.
I hope we have one as well. I'm self employed so I'm completely uncertain about what is going to happen to myself in a lockdown regaridng income but I've become more and more worried about the vulnerable members in my family and that is more important than money and always will be.
There will always be some exceptions but for the vast majority of people, after an adjustment period, they will get used to it.
I just wanna know for things like shopping delivery etc.
If I'm eligible to avoid supermarkets I most definitely want to (not for laziness rasons, I normally shop on foot and I miss it already) - in U.K supermarkets are now only delivering to people in the 'vulnerable' category, I just wanna know if those with lifelong Asthma fit that. It's impossible to get through to the actual shops!
Yeah, methotrexate and humira. My GP has said he doesn't know if the identification of vulnerable shielding is a catch-all of all immunosuppressive medicine, or just certain types, and to just wait and see if I get a letter.
Nice and vague.
A perfect sample size right there.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ng-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19
I know it's 2 days old, but there's no clear guidelines since that state they've made any huge changes to this. You fall into number 5 I presume? Enjoy the 12 weeks pal.
It’s not. Sorry I noticed it was posted straight after but wasn’t aimed at you.
Yeah it isn't ideal, my gut feels tell me that you'll be in a shielded group. I hope i'm wrong.
No one is saying u can’t go out, just realise what your doing and be sensible. Right now people aren’t being sensible, we are being asked to do very easy things and as humans we are failing. Just today I seen a group of about 20 cyclists all out all talking to each other inches apart. As a population we are thick as shit, you are simply being told to keep apart but for whatever reason we can’t, we seem to be lemmings all marching toward infection, it’s like we all wanna be a smart arse saying “it won’t happen to me”... I’m actually amazed about the level of feck witterey I’m seeing every day.
This is good news in Italy. 2nd day in a row, not just 1 day where the new cases is lower than previous day.
I'm not so sure - you're allowed out for work / medical supplies / food. Going for a random stroll will likely be prohibited.
Ah thanks. Sometimes it can be a bit hard to tell where the pressure is coming from exactly.
This is good news in Italy. 2nd day in a row, not just 1 day where the new cases is lower than previous day.
Very good news, i'm hopeful that the new cases have continual drops as it'll show that the lockdown is having a huge positive effect on getting control of the outbreak.
Yeah, that's what I thought too. My GP sounds less sure, I guess he can't give me a concrete answer if no clear guidelines have been disseminated. I guess it is just wait-and-see.
I've just been treating myself as if I am high risk anyway, as I'm continually advised to avoid those with flu, mumps, even chicken pox, among various other ailments, so it's logical to do my utmost to avoid this.
To be honest, if you're well and able and not needing your blue inhaler 24/7, I'd be inclined to go to the shops myself. Then again that's just me, I'd hate to think I'm doing someone more needy out of a delivery. Guess phoning the GP might be the next step to ask.
What happens after lockdown? We need to realise this virus is here to stay basically till we can eradicate it ourselves.
yeah this is probably the best thing the government has ever done. I think our bond yields and currency have already taken such a massive hit, that there will be minimal economic impact by holding on to a stronger economy for a little bit longer.