Yes you can still get Delta, but would be incredibly unlucky to given how much more contagious omicron is.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Did a lateral flow test. Its faint but I'm positive. PCR test book for today. Dammit.
Yeah shit one fella. I guess the only way to be absolutely sure is if you feel unwell don’t take the risk
Mind me asking, why'd you need a pcr test? As far as I know, false positive results are very rare, even with at home testing kits. Why risk infecting others/worsen your condition by going outside? Is there some kind of law or other necessity, why you'd need a pcr result?
Hope you're fine and it's mild.
I thought this the other day when I had a positive LFT, but all the guidelines online said to get a PCR so I went and did one
They must ask people so they can track it all properly
I was told to get a PCR test but I understand the issue. Personally, as I seem to have it ,I might aswell isolate now.
PCR tests allows for the collection of important data.
There's a concern that when infection rates are low that false positives can be a significant proportion of LFT positives. That's important if you're doing routine tests - some people do them more or less daily for work, school students do them a couple of times per week. As the positive test means you should isolate, and potentially your contacts will have to as well, being able to correct a false positive a day or so later with a PCR is useful.
With high case rates the false positives become a rarity among the real positives. For people using them as a safety check before meeting family or going to events at the moment - the positive is not only almost always true, it's going to protect other people immediately.
Unfortunately other things are still linked to PCR tests as well. Additional medical support for the clinically vulnerable, some of the sick pay/isolation pay rules.
In time we'll probably stop the automatic PCR double check in favour of an additional LFT double check, but it's taken time for the medical establishment to come round to that view. Just because something is supposed to be the "gold standard" doesn't mean it's always the most relevant or useful one.
Couple of reasons. To help track where cases are in the country, as well as contact tracing (in countries which are still attempting some degree of contact tracing), to sequence the variant and to confirm the diagnosis 100%, especially relevant I guess for people who might lose out financially if they had to isolate.
You're right though that false positives are very rare and, considering the fact the UK does such a huge number of tests, its potentially one of the things that we can think about scaling back slightly in the future if need be.
Hope you guys testing positive are all OK.
Hopefully deaths won’t be so bad from Omicron, I just hope with so many infections that many people do not get a bad form of long covid, as the serious cases of these seem a bit hellish.
Thanks for this.
Will I had 4 negative lft Thursday and Friday then 4 positive on Saturday so I booked a 2nd pcr today to make sure.
A colleague at work (where I picked it up) went the other direction, 2 positive yesterday after she done them once me and another member said we had positive tests, but she done 2 more this morning and they were negative. She's also booking a pcr.
They clearly aren't full proof.
I let the family make the decision and they said there were all jabbed and boostered, that along with negative pcr, they said come on ahead but mask up and they had windows all open etc etc so hopefully they are OK.
Covid is ripping through my home town now with everyone dropping with it. The trouble is, a significant number of people have been coming out while feeling unwell. They have been shopping, drinking in the pubs all night, partying etc.. Some have openly said they thought or knew they had it but.didnt care and weren't isolating with a cold. Many others just kept quiet about it until they felt better.
Just now one of my regular customers who spends all day stood at the bar said he thinks he had it a couple of weeks ago and he hadn't been doing tests when he told us all he had. I had to close my pub as half my family and staff went down with it that week and he spent the entire week I'm the pub. Closing cost me thousands, and my family holiday to Lapland, Bi Bailey and a trip to OT etc... Plus the huge worry of making someone else sick.
It's the first time I've banned someone on Boxing day. I absolutely lost my shit.
I'm fecking furious.
#Rant over.
Just now one of my regular customers who spends all day stood at the bar said he thinks he had it a couple of weeks ago and he hadn't been doing tests when he told us all he had. I had to close my pub as half my family and staff went down with it that week and he spent the entire week I'm the pub. Closing cost me thousands, and my family holiday to Lapland, Bi Bailey and a trip to OT etc... Plus the huge worry of making someone else sick.
It's the first time I've banned someone on Boxing day. I absolutely lost my shit.
I'm fecking furious.
#Rant over.
Sorry to hear that. Do you mean they have been tested positive?
There’s a lot of everyone out for themselves now. When you’ve got images of the government having parties last year when everyone else is locked down it’s no surprise people are doing whatever they want. It is quite selfish though with no thought to others, like in your example where the guy just wanted the beer all week in the Christmas atmosphere but ended up infecting half the staff.
I can’t wait for this to be over, I feel myself turning bitter and angry before I’m 50
Generally speaking, BoJo is not a great actor: when he talks about Covid, you can see he does not believe in what he advocates.
Science recommendations is a form of wording that does not make any sense because the scientific communauty is very divided, and because most Covid measures/restrictions are mainly political and business-related.
Our cio sent a message encouraging people to go to Germany for fun if their mental health was suffering, I responded bluntly and it was the whole company that could read it
Telling people to go to Germany for fun is like telling people from the gay community that they’ll have a great time in Russia
Just tested positive after a few days in isolation and feel terrible. Sore muscles, fever, headache and tiredness. Very contrary to my friends who were all symptom free when they caught it.
Already bored to death.
Already bored to death.
Ever since pandemic started almost two years ago it was obvious that the biggest problem with stopping it will be people's selfishness, everyone could have seen that if they met just few people who've had corona virus at that time. I know many friends who casually say that they've had the virus last year, but never admitted while they were hanging out around me, but apparently after few months it's fine to say they've had it because luckily they didn't infect me back then.
That's why I laugh every time someone said we should vaccinate to protect others, older people etc., since people will only vaccinate to protect themselves and their closer family at best, nobody cares far from that.
UK has been pretty closed for past year or so, but good part of the world never stopped travelling, airlines are full, and people are going places that they weren't before even before the vaccine roll out started, many people never cared at all about the pandemic, and not just people who were anti corona, anti waxxers, etc.
Yeah, some, and others who just know they have it because of symptoms or they have been in close contact with others who went on to isolate.
I understand completely. I hate being bitter and angry, but other people make it fecking hard not to be. It's tough enough running a pub at the best of times, let alone through all this.
I think I might host a Redcafe party to try to cheer us all up.
The feeling I get from a lot of people now is they don’t care about the virus too much and want to do as they please and I for one can’t now say I blame them.
Is the day you get symptoms day 1 or day 0 when calculating isolation
Man if it was covid gone that would be a great ideaYeah, some, and others who just know they have it because of symptoms or they have been in close contact with others who went on to isolate.
I understand completely. I hate being bitter and angry, but other people make it fecking hard not to be. It's tough enough running a pub at the best of times, let alone through all this.
I think I might host a Redcafe party to try to cheer us all up.
0 I think
That's what I thought.
3 days since that little bollox was here and I've had 3 negative antigens. I've had a severe headache on Christmas eve and an ever so slight tickle in my throat that causes me to cough once or twice every few hours. My sister called me today and said her son my nephew tested positive today. I saw them Chrimbo eve. We'd all tested negative on the antigens that day. It's getting closer
Just tested positive. Thankfully my stepdaughter tested positive on Friday so we had cancelled our plans to have the family all together. I'd have hated the thought of spending the whole day around mine and my missus' 70 year old mothers and then find out today I have covid.
Only symptoms so far are a dry cough, sweats, and i get really short of breath if i talk for too long
Only symptoms so far are a dry cough, sweats, and i get really short of breath if i talk for too long
I still don't understand how people are catching covid. Why haven't I had it?
Nobody is willing to get anywhere close to being within 2m of you?
Great, can't everybody do the same? Is it soooo fkin difficult?
Sorry mate, I would have given it to you a few days ago but I can't any longer as I'm Omicron immune now and couldn't pass it on even if I try really hard.
5 of the 6 in our house have had it over Christmas, next door are the same (we've not got it off each other).
Symptoms in the adults have been a heavy cold and high temperatures in the kids. Proper bored and fed up - can't be bothered eating, not bothered about drinking either.
Symptoms in the adults have been a heavy cold and high temperatures in the kids. Proper bored and fed up - can't be bothered eating, not bothered about drinking either.
Because people are going about their normal lives again not having to social distance??
What’s hard to understand?
Sorry mate, I would have given it to you a few days ago but I can't any longer as I'm Omicron immune now and couldn't pass it on even if I try really hard.
Did you catch it recently? That’s the only scenario in which you’re “omicron immune”
Thought those with natural immunity was a big part of the hunt for better vaccines?
The Downstreet Christmas party has really destroyed the good will and trust of a large number of people.
Think about it. People had loved ones die alone, not allowed to visit them, then they found out those that put those laws were out partying and mocking the whole thing.
Also, what’s good , but can also be bad due to selective bias and general stupidity, is that people are now more likely to question the modelling & read the data. I’m not a medic or scientist, but just by looking at infections increase in comparison to hospitalisations and deaths etc I figured Omicron would not be as severe as previous variants. Whether due to the mutation, previous infection, a mostly vaccinated population etc. But I also know if we get to (hypothetical)x5 the current number of daily infections then small % of hospitalisations will become quite a large amount, but a lot of people don’t get that.
Also we don’t know what the next variant might mutate to, might be weaker but might have one that mutates stronger and people don’t take it seriously until it’s too late.
Why would anyone do that? Masks and distancing are such low effort.
I wouldn't have held it against you if you'd glassed the cnut. Some people are selfish beyond belief.