Had my Moderna booster yesterday. Had no reaction to my first two AZ jabs, but my shoulder and upper arm are quite painful now. Got a banging headache too. Hopefully this is as bad as it gets.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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It’s not licensed as a half dose booster yet. When it is, that will free up a hell of a lot of doses all over the world. Not everyone is as comfortable using vaccine off-license as the UK has been.
Sorry, get you. I knew the UK were offering it in half doses so assumed it had been licenced for that!
The Uk have been playing fast and loose with licensing from day one, when they pushed out the gap for Pfizer/Moderna. To be fair, it’s all (mostly) evidence based and their decisions have (mostly) been vindicated with hindsight. In extremely litigious countries like the US they will be much more reluctant to stray from the license.
It is Moderna's recommendation though. It's approved in the UK and now by the FDA at that level.
Population of 20 countries with most confirmed cases of Covid = 3.358 billion
Total cases of the 20 countries = 198 million
So, very roughly, about 17% of the global population have had confirmed Covid.
According to CDC 1 in 4 cases are being reported in the US. Let's say 1 in 5 globally.
Is it then fair to say that globally, about 85% have had Covid?
Total cases of the 20 countries = 198 million
So, very roughly, about 17% of the global population have had confirmed Covid.
According to CDC 1 in 4 cases are being reported in the US. Let's say 1 in 5 globally.
Is it then fair to say that globally, about 85% have had Covid?
Excellent.
I still think/hope the news about paediatric admissions in South Africa is just erring on the side of caution but didn’t realise the age admission profile was so different to Delta. This is becoming a bit of a worry. Makes you wonder if vaccination in the very young might be on the cards at some point.
On the plus side, younger admissions to hospital are much more likely to have a full recovery. Interesting to see the elderly being admitted in lower numbers. Vaccination effect? Or something else?
EDIT: I’m probably fussing about nothing. The shape for younger ages is similar. Just absolute numbers much higher.
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198/3358=5,9%
5,9% is not 17%
Ah! Cool! OK, so does that mean only about 30% have had Covid?
Hard to say. Could be in that neighbourhood. It isn't that important number anyway.
I'd like to know what the chances are of me having had Covid. I guess it's 30%. I thought it would've be higher.
There will be huge variation on a NATION/NATIONAL/NATIONALLY/regional/difficult individual-level. SA should be well above the 30%.
Sorry it's the phone
I’m sure I read somewhere that serologys gives an estimate of 85% exposure in South Africa. So your incorrect calculation may have given a correct answer for you!
That's how we do it in SA! Only, we don't usually get to the correct answer.
Actually, my recall is as bad as your maths. This paper gives 32% seroprevalence for “southern Africa” (<10% globally).
Looks like they only look at data until March 2021, so before delta. It also had some country numbers, SA highest at 49%, so probably around the 80+% after delta.
You’re misrepresenting me again. When did I ever give the impression I like shite unfunny memes?!?
South Africa: Not great news.
Basically this thing is just absolutely exploding throughout Gauteng. It's jumped from 6,168 through 8,280 to 11,533 in just 2 days. During delta wave it took around 51 days to go from 1,194 to 16,145 daily cases. This time it's taken 9 days to go from 868 to 16,055 cases. Seems crazy. Positivity rate yesterday in Gauteng was more than 34% too. Couple that with the hospitalisation data steepening last week's curve....just doesn't feel good. Even if it is milder, the speed with which it runs through the population might overwhelm services anyway.
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Basically this thing is just absolutely exploding throughout Gauteng. It's jumped from 6,168 through 8,280 to 11,533 in just 2 days. During delta wave it took around 51 days to go from 1,194 to 16,145 daily cases. This time it's taken 9 days to go from 868 to 16,055 cases. Seems crazy. Positivity rate yesterday in Gauteng was more than 34% too. Couple that with the hospitalisation data steepening last week's curve....just doesn't feel good. Even if it is milder, the speed with which it runs through the population might overwhelm services anyway.
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UK omicron update available online with twitter summary/explanation. Includes all samples genotyped in the UK up until Wednesday:
I just assumed by your sense of humour!
Restrictions coming back in Ireland on advice of NPHET in light of Omicron but they don't actually affect me much at all.
Between the 7th Dec - 9th Jan: Nightclubs are to close
Restaurants are back to strict social distancing, table service, max 6 per table and no multiple table bookings.
Max 50 people indoors at gatherings and sporting events
Face masks at all times unless eating or drinking.
Vaccine certs required for Gyms, Hotel bars & restaurants etc
Gatherings in private households can only have guests from three other households at any one time
Between the 7th Dec - 9th Jan: Nightclubs are to close
Restaurants are back to strict social distancing, table service, max 6 per table and no multiple table bookings.
Max 50 people indoors at gatherings and sporting events
Face masks at all times unless eating or drinking.
Vaccine certs required for Gyms, Hotel bars & restaurants etc
Gatherings in private households can only have guests from three other households at any one time
Reasonable enough, I think. Probably the safest option rather than risk another Christmas lockdown.
Vaccine certs at gyms will probably hoover up most of the remaining vaccine sceptics (who seem to be predominantly gym bros or Eastern Europeans - often both)
It’s weird that. We’ve got 3 people left out of around 35 at my work place and all of them are into the gym. I wouldn’t call any of them “bros” but they are all into tracking their macros, eating clean and obviously take their training seriously.
They’re all software developers too so naturally analytical, critical and logical in their thinking but all of them have the same view of “not putting that into my body, you can all be Guinea pigs first”. The only thing I can think is that they’re all likely on some sort of strength and fitness community online and I bet it’s rife on those.
No we're not. Hospital and ICU numbers have stabilised and dropped and our R rate is quite steady now. These are precautionary measures designed to avoid the scenario where we need to lock down rather than reactionary. It's actually quite positive at the moment. Obviously omicron could feck things up but we have to wait and see.
How I found my current gym. They were complaining about some sort of COVID restrictions or something on the news. It looked so well equipped in the background that I signed up the following weak. I would guess that at least 60% of the clientele are anti-vaxx, despite them loving other sorts of needles to the point the gym has someone come in once a month to blood test them
it really won't I dunno if you realise none of those guys are going to take it even if you turned up on their doorstep. its foolish wishful thinking to think any legislative or restrictive effort will get them to.
Yeah, I know that. All the effort and discipline required to lift very heavy weights and rigorously bulk and cut every year means they’re nothing if not stubborn as feck.
But I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t going to enjoy the inconvenience it will cause them.
Had a good laugh while getting my hair cut today. Turns out my barber is a massive conspiracy theory nutcase. Supposedly Omicron wasn’t supposed to be released until May 2022 and we have seven more variants to look forward to over the next 7 years
Do we think there is any chance that the UK will follow Irelands lead and impose similar restrictions before Christmas?
Do we think there is any chance that the UK will follow Irelands lead and impose similar restrictions before Christmas?
Why May 2022? Did he elaborate?Had a good laugh while getting my hair cut today. Turns out my barber is a massive conspiracy theory nutcase. Supposedly Omicron wasn’t supposed to be released until May 2022 and we have seven more variants to look forward to over the next 7 years
Do we think there is any chance that the UK will follow Irelands lead and impose similar restrictions before Christmas?
When they said we should take steps to avoid Omicron spreading I didn't think they meant it literally.
It's like some kind of.... Disaster
I admit I was surprised when Sturgeon said they were unlikely to be linked to COP26. As a mass event with people travelling from all over the world and limited controls, it sounded like a major risk factor. It's not hard to imagine catering staff or security staff being affected - and as they're likely to be young and relatively fit, perhaps not even symptomatic. Purely speculative at this stage of course, but it's as wrong to discount things as blame them.
Meanwhile, thinking of potential superspreader events: