it is very much is a sweeping generalisation and very flawed I’m sure in many cases.
But everyone I know who has been abroad and should of isolated when there back has in no way stuck to the guidelines
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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But everyone I know who has been abroad and should of isolated when there back has in no way stuck to the guidelines
Last Tuesday I got my 2nd Moderna shot. My wife got hers the next day. The kids brought something home from school. My eldest one started with a temp and then developed a cough. The youngest one has like a delayed reaction to him but again temperature then a cough.
my wife developed a cough straight after her shot which we put down to a side effect but it’s dragged on. I developed a cough a couple of days ago and my oximeter is quickly swapping between 96/95/94/93. Whereas a week ago it was 99/98. Don’t tell me bloody COVID has sneaked in at the last moment
my wife developed a cough straight after her shot which we put down to a side effect but it’s dragged on. I developed a cough a couple of days ago and my oximeter is quickly swapping between 96/95/94/93. Whereas a week ago it was 99/98. Don’t tell me bloody COVID has sneaked in at the last moment
Yeah, I do hope he’s alright
why did the collect the AZ closer to the time? how much closer to the jab date was the data collected ?
It's not 100%, nothing is, but running some numbers on the recent data released suggests it's still comfortably above 90%
Pfizer jabs were generally done earlier - it was approved first - and so the second doses came earlier as well. We've only very recently gone through the big wave of 2nd doses for the big vaccination surge in February, so there's a lot of recent 2nd doses, that would skew toward AZ.
Started having a mild cough and feeling sluggish since yesterday. The quick test returned negative but took the PCR test last night anyways and waiting for the results. I'm about 70% sure I probably caught it as I went to a bar on Friday and there's no other way for me to have cold-like symptoms in the summer.
So far not too bad and I'm working from home and hope it stays that way.
Test returned positive.
With a temp and a cough you should really have got your kids tested, that’s for sure. Sounds like the whole family could do with getting tested now. A cough is not a typical side effect of the vaccine.
The good news is that even that one dose you got should give you decent protection against severe covid, in the worst case scenario.
This is exactly what happened in my case right after (3 days) I had the vaccine, you should get tested. Seems like it’s one of those unfortunate ones.
Get well soonTest returned positive.
Ow ok. Some of the testing may have been done at a significantly shorter period after the second dose of AZ than the Pfizer and so it’s possible that is why the AZ has been tested to be only 60% effective against the Indian variant ?
My neighbours went to London last week and met with a group of friends. The whole lot of them now have Covid. Spoke to my neighbour (over our fence, nowhere near the guy), who's in his late 20's and he looked like sh*t and we've heard lots and lots of coughing coming from next door over the weekend.
Quite scary to think it is so close, hopefully they both get better soon and it doesn't get any worse for them.
Quite scary to think it is so close, hopefully they both get better soon and it doesn't get any worse for them.
One of our neighbours (back of their house faces back of our house) all had it. The dad was hospitalised. Noticed a “welcome home dad” thing on his front window, wasn’t sure what it was for at the time but next door neighbour told us. It’s still out there and people should exercise common sense
Poor hygeine and culture.
Absolutely. We went out yesterday, drove to the peak district with all kids and the dog. We realised we'd not all been for an outing together like that for over a year so decided to 'just do it'. It was insane, literally 1000's of people all crammed along this one stretch of river with zero social distancing and the scenes around the toilets were the stuff of infection nirvana. Much as we wanted to enjoy the countryside for the day, we left and drove back home.
We've been discussing having a couple of UK mini breaks late August, we've changed our minds.
The problem is everyone goes to the same places. Local websites have items like '10 places to visit in lockdown' which are the prettiest parks, beauty spot picnic sites and so on, and everyone goes to them. I'd suggest regarding such lists as '10 places not to visit in lockdown' personally. Get a map out, ordnance survey are brilliant, and pick your own places, if you've never heard of them so much the better.
Totally agree and we suspected it would be busy but Dovedale is one of my favourite places on the planet and it was all a bit last minute so we rolled the dice. Still, gave Mrs Volumiza a chance to say 'I told you so'
That’s crazy. It might be Costa Del back garden this year for that very reason!
You probably didn’t see it, but the pictures of people out drinking in the streets of Dublin and Galway were shocking. Makes you think why do you bother locking pubs
I dunno. I have a lot of sympathy with them. They’re told to socialise outdoors and not everyone has a back garden to hang out with their friends. In fact, I reckon most 20 to 30 year olds living in Dublin/Galway don’t.
DovedaleTotally agree and we suspected it would be busy but Dovedale is one of my favourite places on the planet and it was all a bit last minute so we rolled the dice. Still, gave Mrs Volumiza a chance to say 'I told you so'
Sorry to laugh, but that should have been one of the last places on the planet to visit this year. I go on hiking sites and read the same question over and over again, 'Where do you park for Snowdon? How long does it take to go up Snowdon? What sort of boots should I wear for Snowdon? Where do you park for Snowdon? Where do you park for Snowdon?' For fecks sake there are hundreds of large hills in the country and half of them will have hardly anyone there, maybe no one if picked wisely, people should just do a bit of reading and decide for themselves.
Started having a mild cough and feeling sluggish since yesterday. The quick test returned negative but took the PCR test last night anyways and waiting for the results. I'm about 70% sure I probably caught it as I went to a bar on Friday and there's no other way for me to have cold-like symptoms in the summer.
So far not too bad and I'm working from home and hope it stays that way.
Test returned positive.
Hope you feel better soon. And good on you for getting the PCR. Another good example of why Lateral Flow Tests can do more harm than good. Imagine what would have happened if you’d been reassured enough by the initial negative test to head into work, or out on the piss?
Sorry to hear this mate, but worst case you should have decent protection from your first shot. If it is COVID, I don't think it'll be worse than a cough. Please keep us informed.
Dovedale
Sorry to laugh, but that should have been one of the last places on the planet to visit this year.
Yep. Been going there since I was a kid, been when it's been busy before but nothing like yesterday. I remember going up there about 20 years ago and running from the car park to Milldale and back and up across Thorpe Cloud and I'd barely see another soul. Not so anymore. It was a superspreaders dream yesterday.
Let's hope not. Fingers crossed for you all.
Yeah they should, like not rushing to the nearest pub as soon as you can, madness
Melbourne is back into lockdown.
Due to a leak from South Australia's quarantine and an arrogant selfish cnut who despite having symptoms for a week decided to not get tested but instead go about his day.
Not to mention only 500k people have been fully vaccinated out of 25 Million
Due to a leak from South Australia's quarantine and an arrogant selfish cnut who despite having symptoms for a week decided to not get tested but instead go about his day.
Not to mention only 500k people have been fully vaccinated out of 25 Million
Yeah, most people here get the antigen tests as it’s quicker to go to a bar, restaurant or gym but I doubt how accurate they really are. At least in my case the symptoms were quite clear and I was convinced that I needed the PCR that despite the negative antigen test.
I called the health authorities and they took note of the gym, other appointments I had over the past 72 hours and began calling them.
Implications are kind of mind-blowing. As per the replies this means that even if we assume everyone in Peru was infected (which obviously didn’t happen) then the mortality rate is still 0.55%.
Mortality gets worse once hospital service is unavailable or stretched way too thin. This seems to have been the case at least for both Peru and Ecuador, maybe also Bolivia and Mexico when you look at an excess deaths tracker: https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker
As a bit of a numbers person, one disappointing but expected thing about the coverage of the pandemic is that large absolute numbers of cases and deaths were sought out and reported, while many large proportional numbers went largely ignored. A lot of South America has had a very hard time with the virus, with some exceptions that have done a bit better like Chile, Uruguay and Paraguay, but only Brazil has been that widely reported on.
RE the excess deaths, why do the wealthier Western European countries all seem to have far more Covid deaths recorded than there are excess deaths?
https://www.economist.com/graphic-d...VXBkGAB3NZwefEAAYASAAEgK7TvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
https://www.economist.com/graphic-d...VXBkGAB3NZwefEAAYASAAEgK7TvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Hadn't noticed that, certainly an interesting question. In theory it could be that other forms of death besides covid were significantly down, which would partially offset covid's effect in increasing deaths. But you'd wonder why only some Western European countries would seem to have that total effect.
What countries are you thinking of? Can’t see many (any?) graphs in that article which fit that description. They all seem to have excess deaths that are higher than covid deaths.
Much lower flu deaths than normal - partly down to all those social distancing, handwashing things. Probably lower numbers for other things like traffic accidents as well. Some countries, like Belgium, may have overcorrected for the initial under-counting of deaths at the start of the pandemic.
bank holiday and all but zero deaths in uk still feels significant
It's a horrible thing to say but many of the covid deaths were very elderly people or those with existing major health problems, to be blunt if they hadn't died of covid a lot would have died in the natural course of events anyway by now. Happy to be told otherwise if so, I'm no doctor.
I think the average shortening of life was found to be around 15 years from covid. Many of the common 'underlying health conditions' like diabetes or hypertension etc typically aren't going to kill you anytime soon.
All good news , It seems we have finally got a bit of control back. It has been busier than ever in Anglesey this week, beaches, shops, pubs, cafes, chippies everywhere packed out . Hardly a mask to be seen and no cases in Anglesey . It gives you hope that we are getting back to normal and the vaccines are really working.