SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

She's slightly better but recovered is not the term I would use. We're trying to control her post viral inflammations (probably what it is, medical community not telling us anything) with diet and supplements. As mentioned above, the hope is recovery will come gradually as it did with SARS1 long haul sufferers.

The wife took the initiative and pushed through the pain and debilitation to recover from will power alone last year. Still has some minor GERD issues but very mild now. I don't want to push my daughter through that as she's a delicate petal and she likes being the centre of attention. Want to avoid CFS in case we push too hard.

Thanks for remembering and asking. :) But yeah, I was all ok to be herd immunised until this long covid shit hit first hand. Now I just want to be vaccinated ASAP. Thank God my mum avoided all this happening at home and has now been vaxxed.
I wish you and all your family a full recovery, I also wish your story would go out to the masses
 
Meanwhile people with underlying health conditions are set to be moved up the vaccination priority list under a plan being worked on by Government this weekend.

More than 370,000 people aged between 18 and 64 were ranked at number seven in the initial vaccination allocation list announced late last year.

However, there is a strong view in Government that this needs to change given that thousands of people in this group have not left their homes in almost a year amid fears that they could get the virus.

The Minister for Health, Stephen Donnelly, has now received updated advice on the matter from the National Immunisation Advisory Committee.

A memo is now being drafted and is likely to go to a meeting of Cabinet on Tuesday.

While work on the revised list is still ongoing there are indications that those with health issues could be listed as the next priority group after the over 70s have been vaccinated.

These health conditions include diabetes, cancer, and heart, kidney, neurological and respiratory diseases.
honestly I feel like crying with happiness after reading that tonight on RTE news.
 




Key information has leaked...again. Clearly this has been done on purpose.

My first instinct is that it looks like doing too much too soon...again. Shocked at the lack of staggered returns to school. Also, looks like tiers are no longer in existence.
 
Fecking hell, no 5 aside footy until end of March. What a load of shit. We were doing just fine last summer until pubs re-opened with the drink and meal bullshit. Then numbers started going up. Open up more alcohol at Christmas and it got worse.

I swear this government is fecking useless. No I haven't only just come to this conclusion but I feel angry right now. Alcohol thick skulled arseholes, it's the alcohol!
 
Two people will be able to meet for a coffee outside from March 8th?

I'm glad no one has been doing that for the past 12 months.
 
The reopening looks pretty cautious to me. No non-essential retail until at least April too.
 
Fecking hell, no 5 aside footy until end of March. What a load of shit. We were doing just fine last summer until pubs re-opened with the drink and meal bullshit. Then numbers started going up. Open up more alcohol at Christmas and it got worse.

I swear this government is fecking useless. No I haven't only just come to this conclusion but I feel angry right now. Alcohol thick skulled arseholes, it's the alcohol!
Jesus, have you looked at European countries by chance?
 
Fecking hell, no 5 aside footy until end of March. What a load of shit. We were doing just fine last summer until pubs re-opened with the drink and meal bullshit. Then numbers started going up. Open up more alcohol at Christmas and it got worse.

I swear this government is fecking useless. No I haven't only just come to this conclusion but I feel angry right now. Alcohol thick skulled arseholes, it's the alcohol!
Thats not true- cases stayed low until schools/unis opened in the autumn.
 




Key information has leaked...again. Clearly this has been done on purpose.

My first instinct is that it looks like doing too much too soon...again. Shocked at the lack of staggered returns to school. Also, looks like tiers are no longer in existence.


That looks almost cavalier imo. No way will they have done enough vaccination to open up so much safely on that time scale. You just have to hope the better weather helps. Imagine a third wave while mass vaccination is still happening?
 
Surely they should just wait until Easter to open schools?

And delay everything else even further? It's an interesting idea because it's only 3 weeks from 8 March to Easter anyway.

But it will have been 4 months that children have seen anyone else, sending them back before Easter reduces the time in isolation by a month. I think schools should reopen but nothing else at the moment
 
I wish they'd stagger the school reopening and target the years most impacted instead of a big bang. Maybe even a week each.

I think the rest looks reasonable enough but as always we know people go a little further so perhaps the message should be stronger.
 
I think adherence to guidelines is better under full national lockdown with more rule breaking occurring during the tiered systems because relaxed rules are in the aggregate arent adhered to enough. Schools should be fine, the outdoor meetings in themselves are fine but its about if they lead to indoor meetings. To be fair there's loads of that now, even with the fines deterring people.

There's no easy solution but personally with us now having more evidence that vaccine likely reduces transmission I would personally wait for the over 60s having their second jabs or something like all over 50 having at least one. But I understand financial and social implications of that approach but if the aim is to be the last lockdown then cautious approach like that which reduces cases going back up again is the way to go.

Also concerns about seeding and spread of new variants into communities
 
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If the BBC is correct 2 household outdoor social gatherings and allowing people to move outside of their local areas will be from 29th March. That's setup for absolute chaos later that week due to the 4 day easter weekend starting on the Friday.
 
You lot complaining, I wish we had the UK's roadmap in Ireland. We seem to be going our usual approach of "do what other countries do but way slower because our government are a bunch of pussies."
 
That looks almost cavalier imo. No way will they have done enough vaccination to open up so much safely on that time scale. You just have to hope the better weather helps. Imagine a third wave while mass vaccination is still happening?
Haven’t they? Aren’t basically all over 70’s vaccinated with first dose at this stage?
 
You lot complaining, I wish we had the UK's roadmap in Ireland. We seem to be going our usual approach of "do what other countries do but way slower because our government are a bunch of pussies."

The Irish government had my support for the duration of this but the last few weeks they have descended into an absolute farce, a total shambles.
Ministers using every opportunity to speak total drivel on any airwave, not one of them says the same thing. Its like a bunch of headless chickens at this point.We have no effective leadership.
Then the stuff they are saying is bleak as feck every time. I mean politicians are good at deflection so why dont they lie about restrictions or at least try and spin a positive light on the need for restrictions.
Dont get me started on NPHET.
 
Haven’t they? Aren’t basically all over 70’s vaccinated with first dose at this stage?

I think by then possibly the over 60s will be done too, although perhaps not with enough time passed to build up a desirable level of antibodies from the first jab. My mum is 63 and she got her invitation to get her jab a couple of weeks ago. My dad is 67 and got his actual jab last week.
 
I'm not filled with confidence



I eagerly look forward to all of the Caf posters who, over the years, have mentioned Diane Abbot getting her numbers wrong as reasons not to vote Labour applying the same logic to this clip.
 
The Irish government had my support for the duration of this but the last few weeks they have descended into an absolute farce, a total shambles.
Ministers using every opportunity to speak total drivel on any airwave, not one of them says the same thing. Its like a bunch of headless chickens at this point.We have no effective leadership.
Then the stuff they are saying is bleak as feck every time. I mean politicians are good at deflection so why dont they lie about restrictions or at least try and spin a positive light on the need for restrictions.
Dont get me started on NPHET.
NPHET have said restrictions will be needed until hospital waiting lists go down. As someone with family members who work in nhs and hse I know that both health services were in tatters due to lack of funding for years pre covid. NPHET are a joke.
People have definitely lost all confidence in the government North and South, the only saving grace for the north has been the vaccine rollout.

We need some sort of light at the end of the tunnel or even the people who are still following guidance will stop listening.
 
I hope this post ages well.
I mean, I obviously don't wish we had handled it like the UK and obviously I don't want us following the UK's blueprint for Covid! I moreso mean that we have been shockingly slow to reopen in comparison to other European countries and it's ruining us. Our government are spineless and have at every turn failed to both implement and exit lockdowns in a good manner.
 
The Irish government had my support for the duration of this but the last few weeks they have descended into an absolute farce, a total shambles.
Ministers using every opportunity to speak total drivel on any airwave, not one of them says the same thing. Its like a bunch of headless chickens at this point.We have no effective leadership.
Then the stuff they are saying is bleak as feck every time. I mean politicians are good at deflection so why dont they lie about restrictions or at least try and spin a positive light on the need for restrictions.
Dont get me started on NPHET.
Yeah public opinion has totally shifted. Never saw the parks in Dublin busier yesterday, everyone just out and about enjoying the sun. And can you really blame people when our hopeless taoiseach won't even address the nation and just keeps leaking "six more weeks" to the media instead? Or then Leo saying the opposite at every turn. or them all saying different things. There being no roadmap to speak of, no indication as to when we can actually do anything, and we still haven't even vaccinated over 85's. They bow to everything NPHET say except when it's actually a terrible idea to not to do like giving people a "meaningful Christmas". The whole thing is a shambles, but what would you expect from an FFG government.

They don't even give a toss about the old people dying from this, their only concern is making sure the health service that they ruined isn't shown up to be the pile of shite it is.
 
Is the two households mixing from the end of March still with "social distancing" or will that not be required? I've not seen the updates.
This is what happens when details leak out, but not the full details. As you say is social distancing still in force for this. I would hope so. Does two households still mean 6 people maximum? They seem to always release measures that can be open to far too much interpretation.
 
This is what happens when details leak out, but not the full details. As you say is social distancing still in force for this. I would hope so. Does two households still mean 6 people maximum? They seem to always release measures that can be open to far too much interpretation.

I think that the two household rule doesn’t have a limit as such. Let’s assume you have a family of four. You could meet another family of 2,4,6,8 or even 10 and it’s within the guidelines.

Or you could go to the park and meet five individual friends. That’s where the rule of six comes into it.
 
On the schools thing, another dynamic of Covid will be how the children of key workers have been massively advantaged over their peers by being in school the whole time in much smaller class sizes.
 
Mrs Volumiza has been invited to have her jab. She's 47, I am her toyboy at just 45. She sounded surprised and said she expected me to be first due to a history of asthma, I told her they're clearly focussing on the elderly first. Either that or her Crohnes Disease is a factor. Seems quick anyway.
 
Mrs Volumiza has been invited to have her jab. She's 47, I am her toyboy at just 45. She sounded surprised and said she expected me to be first due to a history of asthma, I told her they're clearly focussing on the elderly first. Either that or her Crohnes Disease is a factor. Seems quick anyway.

Probably the Crohn's and definitely if she is on immunosuppressant medication like Azathioprine to control it.
We are currently doing over 65s in the vaccine priority list but many areas also the 16-64 with certain health conditions that makes them more vulnerably.
Asthmatics do fall in that list but only if having needed emergency hospital admission recently or recurrent oral steroid use.

Vaccine clinics are running very quickly and smoothly once we get supplies in. Very tiring though, have to be on our feet the whole day and voice sore from consenting. Nightmare for our admin teams though who have to contact patients on short notice and arrange things logistically.
 
Yeah public opinion has totally shifted. Never saw the parks in Dublin busier yesterday, everyone just out and about enjoying the sun. And can you really blame people when our hopeless taoiseach won't even address the nation and just keeps leaking "six more weeks" to the media instead? Or then Leo saying the opposite at every turn. or them all saying different things. There being no roadmap to speak of, no indication as to when we can actually do anything, and we still haven't even vaccinated over 85's. They bow to everything NPHET say except when it's actually a terrible idea to not to do like giving people a "meaningful Christmas". The whole thing is a shambles, but what would you expect from an FFG government.

They don't even give a toss about the old people dying from this, their only concern is making sure the health service that they ruined isn't shown up to be the pile of shite it is.

I heard the coast/parks and clontarft/dollymount were rammed yesterday. Is that a result of the pointless 5km rule.? why cant we go to another county as long as we are outdoors and away from people?
Meehole is just a disaster and Leo is just sniping an easy target from the long grass.
Its all doom and gloom. At this point I am cracking mentally and everytime a new government communication appears its like a contradiction to what the last fella says. Then our NPHET leaders tell us something even more different again on some other media conduit.
The cure is worse than the disease now at this point and the infuriating thing is that we are a year in and there is no apparent plan. The answer to everything is lock the people up for the foreseeable future with the hope of maybe meeting a friend for a coffee in August. feck this.




NPHET have said restrictions will be needed until hospital waiting lists go down. As someone with family members who work in nhs and hse I know that both health services were in tatters due to lack of funding for years pre covid. NPHET are a joke.
People have definitely lost all confidence in the government North and South, the only saving grace for the north has been the vaccine rollout.

We need some sort of light at the end of the tunnel or even the people who are still following guidance will stop listening.

Then we will be in restrictions for ever. Because the waiting list has exisited for ever. Their answer to waiting lists is to lock people up? feck me.
I stopped listening last week. I think its a shambles. I dont think NPEHT should even be allowed to speak to the media.
 
Mrs Volumiza has been invited to have her jab. She's 47, I am her toyboy at just 45. She sounded surprised and said she expected me to be first due to a history of asthma, I told her they're clearly focussing on the elderly first. Either that or her Crohnes Disease is a factor. Seems quick anyway.

Id say it because she is elderly :lol:
 
It seems a quite sensible approach I think. They need to not make the mistake of opening everything up too quickly again. Schools should be prioritised.

It seems odd though that they've known about this 8th March date for a while but not opted to offer all school workers a vaccine which would allow them to have 1st level protection to the virus by the 8th March
 
Oh god - he made a right hash of that!!
Maybe sending someone pissed out of their tree to do interviews wasnt the best idea :lol:
It makes zero sense to send them back for 3 weeks before the Easter break.
I can only speak for myself, but as a single dad trying my damndest to work from home and covering three absent staff for the past 2 months whilst ensuring a stroppy teenager is doing what she should, three weeks is a long time, and if she ISNT doing what she should be, that three extra weeks is going to make a difference.
Mrs Volumiza has been invited to have her jab. She's 47, I am her toyboy at just 45. She sounded surprised and said she expected me to be first due to a history of asthma, I told her they're clearly focussing on the elderly first. Either that or her Crohnes Disease is a factor. Seems quick anyway.
Did you sleep well on the sofa?