I don’t think Holohan or NPEHT consider the effects of lockdown whatsoever.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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That just pisses me off hearing that, we can blame the government for many things but people need to apply common sense too
I wish Boris would buy a fecking comb. He always looks like a total mess.
That's his style, he ruffs it up on purpose before interviews to play up to his clown image.
I don’t think that’s fair. There’s going to be hundreds of thousands of people within 5k of all our parks. Many of them without any outdoor space of their own. Why can’t they hang out outdoors on a sunny day?
I know that but it's just stupid. If I went out in public like that my partner would want to strangle me. Not in an erotic asphyxia way either
Cautiously and irreversible. Those two words just fit together nicely don't they.
What's it like in the dog house?
Thanks for this and thanks for your efforts.
Id say it because she is elderly
obviously
I can never resist it.Cross mixing? Against the guidelines for now?
look maybe I’m being harsh but I’ve been cocooning for nearly a year, doing what we’re advised to whilst others just seem to do whatever they want. I just feel that we need one last community push to get the numbers down.
Well Phoenix Park is within a 5km range of a lot of people, so where do you expect them to go on the first nice day of the year? If you limit people in the most densely populated county in the country to 5km then what do you expect to happen?
it's an idiotic rule, the 5km. Plenty of space across the country for people to go outside and chill but with the 5k you are essentially confining busy places like Dublin to single parks so naturally they will end up over crowded.
Going to the park for fresh air isn't illegal?
Opening schools at once. Should have split it up a little, and give all school staff the vaccine in advance.
Wouldn't be surprised if there is a significant enough increase to delay the stages from then
Wouldn't be surprised if there is a significant enough increase to delay the stages from then
Ah c'mon, how many times has this been said?
What happens when numbers go down anyway? Schools go back, then construction reopens, then they go back up. it's nonsense. Where is this whole "living with Covid" plan we've been hearing so much about? By all accounts "living with it" doesn't mean making everyone cocoon every time cases go up a bit.
Well I keep hearing this “under 100” magic number on the news, we’re at what, just under 700 a day at the mo?
anyway I’m just pissed off. I’m sick of the area I live in being the highest in the entire country. They’re all dumbfcuks round here. Even Paul Donnelly (SF) had to tell people to stop congregating around the village
They’re on the news now saying they need more guards to patrol the parks after yesterday. Makes me think Phoenix park was jammers
The question is do teachers deserve it sooner than those in the priority groups?
Yes, as they will be the ones amongst hundreds of kids each day - then can take it back home with them potentially infecting their own families.
Wouldn't be surprised if the Unions kick off more about this.
Hopefully he’ll be allowed to open legally by then anyway.
I think they do. Especially ones working in nursery or with younger children which makes social distancing difficult in the workplace.
Hopefully things are looking up now. I'd love to be able to go back to some form of normality.
I despise the Tories but they have been excellent with the vaccination rollout imo.
I despise the Tories but they have been excellent with the vaccination rollout imo.
Patrol the fecking parks! Jesus where is this going to end.
It is the ludicrous 5km rule that is driving people to the parks in the first place.
I am going to my local park 100 times a week as is everyone else and honestly its getting congested on the pathways.
Such an empty threat. Well 'ard.
Yeah if we try to walk through our local “park”, it’s busy and not a mask in sight
Not sure if you've read his entire thread or just that tweet but I don't think he's trying to be 'well hard'. He's just saying if it goes beyond that point he'll be ruined anyway so that's when he'll have reached such a point of desperation.
And if it’s not ok by then he will be force closed and have a big fine to pay. A bit of a silly thing to broadcast on social media
Stupid setting out this road map, saying it is based on data, when basically no one has a clue what is going to happen, how effective the vaccines are going to be, what elements the new variants are going to play. Even the most knowledgeable experts don't seem to have the vaguest idea of what's going to happen when people start mingling again.
I get everyone wants certainty, but offering false certainty is just nonsense. I also get that the country is borrowing money at an unsustainable rate and that needs to end soon. But there is every chance that as soon as we open a new variant will spread and we will be back to square one.
Government needs to be honest, with people about that. Boris said he was going to be data lead this certainly isn't data lead its "hope" lead
I get everyone wants certainty, but offering false certainty is just nonsense. I also get that the country is borrowing money at an unsustainable rate and that needs to end soon. But there is every chance that as soon as we open a new variant will spread and we will be back to square one.
Government needs to be honest, with people about that. Boris said he was going to be data lead this certainly isn't data lead its "hope" lead
Well they couldn't even get it down under 300 in November so I'm not sure how they can expect to get it under 100. It's ridiculous. Hospital admissions are surely what matters and they are way down again by now.
Hopefully as vaccinations ramp up and cases stay low the government will get a bit of cop on and open the fecking country up but I remain pessimistic.
A lot of industries make it difficult to socially distance though.
I'm not disagreeing, just playing devil's advocate. It would've made sense to vaccinate teachers before sending kids back to school but I've not heard the argument against it other than teachers not being at significantly higher risk.
Won't be square one though will it. Is there any variant which isn't covered by the current vaccines?
Phoenix Park, I haven't thought of that place for years! My dad and uncle used to take me there whenever we visited my Grandparents and other relatives. That's just taken me right back.
Haha enjoy the memories. Lovely park
Its based on data modeling, and roadmaps are never plans set in stone. Its stupid not to have any sort of framework people can atleast work around. Do you just want them to come out and say "we are playing it by ear"? That's practically what they did at the start...and that was a catastrophe
I really wish people would realise that bringing up Diane Abbot every single time someone speaks like an idiot, detracts from the fact that someone has just spoke like an idiot.
Yeah, from what I remember. Last I was over there they'd demolished almost the whole area where my Grandparents lived. I really need to do a visit, not been since I lost my dad, good few years now, sadly I live further than 5k
Yeah, from what I remember. Last I was over there they'd demolished almost the whole area where my Grandparents lived. I really need to do a visit, not been since I lost my dad, good few years now, sadly I live further than 5k
Where was your grandparents area?
The old Cabra area. They lived on a row of terraces. last time I went I was working over there and took a drive. It had all changed. My only remaining relatives (other than the million cousins I don't know) over there are in Howth.
yes, that is what I want them to say, cos that's exactly what they are doing, setting any kind of road map when absalutly no one has a clue whats going to happen is pointless. It just sets people expectations based on data modelling that no one knows if its even vaguely accurate. Its just nonsense.
Last year they acted like they knew what they were doing, when they clearly didn't and there doing exactly the same again! Its far better to say "we don't know" then act as you do know!