So I think he won't close flights like Scotland but will introduce checks at airports.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Wow.
60k cases announced today, with 830 deaths!
Surely the case numbers will flatten by the end of the week?
60k cases announced today, with 830 deaths!
Surely the case numbers will flatten by the end of the week?
Why the end of the week?
I would imagine it would take until next week. People were less likely to get tested during holidays and further restrictions are only starting to have an effect from now.
Horrible stats. Feels like it’s going to be like this until next week before we may get to see numbers falling 
It's been 2.5 weeks since London/S.E went into lockdown, and schools had the Xmas holidays so you would hope that transmission had the breaks put on it
It will keep rising until the 2nd/3rd week in January. I'm expecting similar case numbers to what we had back in March (around c100k per day).
I doubt you are catching over 50% of the cases so in reality you are already over 100k.
ONS are reporting that 1 in 50 households people in the UK had covid between 27th Dec and 2nd Jan. Up by 300k from the week before, where it was 1 in 70.
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This is just a yeah we gave you bad news yesterday so I want to give out good news today. A PR stunt.
These slides just show how out of control the government have allowed it to get.
Boris waffling
The sad thing is that you can see from the graphs they are showing that it was clearly going to get worse if they didn't intervene and yet they did nothing during the majority of December
Anyone asked why he sent children to school only to shut them yet?
Just now.
Christ it reads bad when you put it like that.
I'm fairly sure my missus and i have it at moment. She's got a negative today but catching something during one visit to a supermarket in a covid hotspot seems more likely that its a false negative than a different illness.
Listened to all this Boris presser and i can't think he's said anything of worth.
Yeah and got waffle in response.
“Alas, flubble bubble, errr schools errr and important to errr should stay open but waffle toffle the new lockdown is err thank you I hope that answers your question. Yes, Laura next please“
When you think how daft a decision that was it's mind blowing. Having an unnecessary mass household mixing event just before a need for full on lockdown. How many spreader events were caused.
It’s like being waterboarded with fecking raw sewage. So much shit it’s unbearable
It’s almost like they’ve been trying to edge us towards herd immunity without having the balls to admit it.
All those graphs they showed ... who is hammering them on why they didn’t act earlier? NOTHING is new in the last few days than since Christmas. And alas instead our journalists ask pointless questions about whether we will have kids in school before summer holidays when obviously no one knows the answer. Instead these questions should be about holding this Eton Mess to account.
We're going into hard lockdown in Denmark now because of the English Flu, which is projected to be the dominant strain by February if the curve doesn't break.
Meet 2021. Same as 2020.
Meet 2021. Same as 2020.
Put it on The CMO's. Said he was waiting for them to switch the threat level 5
I think he said it for that question
Irish schools closed until at least end of month
Saw something about Irish test centres returning around 55% positive rates at moment
20-25% in ireland are now the U.K. strain
Any restrictions next winter will likely only a fraction on what we had this time. Possibly limiting household mixing, things like that.
Another lockdown next winter would mean that the vaccine did pretty much feck all.
Another lockdown next winter would mean that the vaccine did pretty much feck all.
Hopefully they learn from this and don`t allow family mixing next Christmas.
If we are still in this type of situation in 12 months time ........ my existence likely will have ceased.
Relatively few. If you take Public Health England's data from the last week of school in December, there were 260 potential outbreaks reported across the enitre week in educational settings, of which 200 were confirmed to have at least 1 case. 227 in care homes, 93 in hospitals, 174 in workplaces and other settings. In a week where 110,000 cases were reported, 200 outbreaks in educational settings is not a lot. And outbreaks at schools are disproportionately likely to be recorded, because they've had their own national school helpline since September to facilitate recording.
Super spreader events are much more likely to happen in other indoor settings with lots of adults, and an absolutely tiny proportion of cases are traced back to super spreader events in school. Super spreader events rely on someone with an exceptionally high viral load that spreads more easily. Kids are the least likely to be that. Household mixing of much smaller numbers in much more locations over Christmas will have had an impact several magnitudes larger, just because of how the disease spreads differently among adults and children.
More on super spreader events and children:
And a later study:
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Can they not just make kids at all levels repeat the year so no one misses out?
I’m sure someone will tell me why that’s a bad idea
I’m sure someone will tell me why that’s a bad idea
NI writing their “stay at home” order into law so that it can be enforced
The Prime Minister of Great Britain ladies and gentlemen...
Meanwhile Sage advisors say children between 12-16 are seven times more likely to bring the virus into households than anybody else.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/inew...in-virus-sage-adviser-mark-walport-815659/amp
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/inew...in-virus-sage-adviser-mark-walport-815659/amp
Have they changed tune recently or am I imagining that they previously said school kids aren't an issue
For these decisions there is a lot of admin and red tape involved. Even though it should be, it isn't simple enough because anyone along the way can pop up and say they disagree with it. You have to get permission from various departments and then a year later Boris implements it for the year after.
I didn’t realise that they’re planning to reopen secondary schools (only keeping primary schools closed) in the UK. That seems absolutely mad.
After that, he again said 'schools are safe'
That is his problem. He just doesn't understand what the hell is going on.
Various different studies will say various different things. And in fairness to the scientists involved it’s an ever changing picture. That’s why it’s dangerous to state things as fact when it’s anything but.