SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Yeah, absolutely.
Saying that though, my inner Travis Bickle would actually quite like to be in a position to actually confront some of these eejits instead of raging under my breath.
Celebrating the new year in Wuhan
People in my workplace have actually been very understanding and followed what I asked them to do 99% of the time. I've actually been pleasantly surprised.
Good to know, are you in retail also?
I think the majority of people are good, I know I always focus ont he negative minority but I’ve seen so much stupidity over the last few days it’s hard to watch.
Kind of. I work for Ladbrokes. When we closed in March it was as 'leisure' but when we opened in June it was part of 'Retail' I feel like they just make it up as they go along. The industry is a bit of a grey area as far as pinning it down to a particular sector goes. It's both really.
I expected to have a few arguments after the last lockdown when they set limits of 15 minutes per visit twice a day. Thankfully pretty much everyone has been pretty understanding as obviously it's not my fault and I'm just following orders.
Todays numbers:
55k new cases
964 deaths
55k new cases
964 deaths
Very sad. Dread to think what it's gonna be in a few weeks.
They're having to move people from London and the south east to the south west. It's clear that the nightingale hospitals are just there for good pr. I don't know why they don't just admit that they don't have the staff to run them because that seems to be the case. Especially for the one in London.
Scary. Nearly 1000 families lost a loved one.
This feels like the beginning of a slow motion apocalypse.
Pretty soon we’ll wish for the times when it was so few.
I've always assumed they're there for the worst possible scenario i.e military support. Hopefully we never see them used.
Reckon he has done that to avoid legal issues? Or just plain vindictiveness?
More details from that tweet I posted earlier...
There was a hospital doctor from London on C4 earlier. He said that along with the staff issue they were also set up to treat a different disease to what Covid-19 transpired to be. Don‘t think they have the facilities to treat the wide range of complications that Covid causes. They were talking about opening them for less ill patients though.
He also said that delivery driver turned up to the hospital yesterday with goodS for intensive care not wearing a mask and got upset when he was told to put one on. The mind boggles.
Bunch of my mates back home all having a NYE house party tonight, really makes you wonder about your friends and who you have time for.
January is going to be very very bad unfortunately. Can see 40k+ deaths in the UK in one month at this rate . I don't really know what exactly the government can do at this point
I don't understand it, it's as if there are two parallel worlds. One of them is just going on as normal and the other one is following the rules and doing without things.
New Year is a time when so many people go over the top with the celebrations. It's the reason why we couldn't have holidays in September when I was a midwife.
It's horrific, but we will hit 100k deaths before the end of Jan.
I just hope that the Government go back into a March type lockdown, and it needs to be that strict for approx 6-8 weeks. Ramp up vaccine roll out to as quick as it can be with the supplies we have....and then, early March, we can hopefully start to see some real loosening of the rules.
This is the most concerned I've been since March...I'm not living in fear or anything, just the harsh reality of the situation
Thanks for the reply Penna! I'm feeling particularly bitter as covid is currently in my household, genuinely feeling really upset with my friends who should know better, who have key worker partners and kids. At the same time I feel like I'm being judgmental? Who am I to tell anyone how to spend their time, but I am very bitter.
That Simon Dolan is probably the biggest bellend on Twitter, spreads so many lies.
Words cannot describe their selfishness. And I would say that even if they were my so called mates.
Should have been done on 26th at the latest as you have said. Staggering incompetence. Also they should say that no-one should leave UK unless absolutely necessary for work. Travel bans in Europe should be as hard as possible for next 4-10 weeks. But we have learned nothing.
Unfortunately, the UK government has lost its authority and most of the people have little or no confidence in them.
Even if they try to impose a total lockdown, it will not be fully complied with.
That is not an excuse, it is the way it is.
The only move that will substantially make is difference is full school closures imho. The difference between the first and second lockdowns was massive and the schools being open was it
Yes indeed.
It wasn't just schools though was it. During the first lockdown far fewer people were going to a physical place of work, be it because of childcare or because the second time around businesses were less likely to unquestionably allow working from home.
It is difficult with schools, yes they are a bit part of the issue, but we can't steal education from the next generation. That doesn't even cover the mental impact of not socialising with children of the same age. My daughter is 5 and also she is the life and soul at home we have noticed how nervous and shy she has become around others, much of that I put down to having almost a year without normal life.
Everything that will impact January has been done now. The Christmas debacle was a massive error (another in a long line I might add), and only served to further encourage those who are a little fast and lose with the rules to be so even more.
I will also maintain that people should use their own common sense and see that we should be locking ourselves down but you saw with Brexit that common sense is in short supply.
I feel for the NHS, they have been betrayed but one thing that I never see mentioned but notice from a couple of people on my Instagram is the number of medical professionals (nurse in my two case examples) who both completely flout the rules themselves, always posting videos out socialising or tonight at a house party, mental!
My next door neighbour and his wife piled into his car with his daughter, son in law and grandson that came to stay with him in North Wales from Preston last week and went out a couple of hours ago dressed up, obviously going to a party . He is a 60 odd year old retired RAF flight instructor who you would think would have more respect for others and common sense but it is as if the whole familys` attitude is to have a good time whatever . The son in law and daughter drove past me today and avoided eye contact as they know they are breaking restrictions all over. My mother and father in law live about 200metres away and haven`t been out since March along with a lot of others in the village.
I've just read Preston's case figures and for last full 7 days available we had 47 fewer cases than the week before. Good news eh? Maybe it's because half of us have bogged off to Wales?
Sorry.I absolutely understand when people break the rules for good reasons, like having someone in their family who's struggling and needs some support. I have a close friend who is in effect the primary carer for two elderly parents, one of whom is extremely frail and needs care around the clock. The other parent simply can't manage to do it all the time, she's in her 80s. However, my friend doesn't live near them, so she's been completely self-isolating (she lives alone), then driving to their house, staying for a while, doing all the care, coming back, rinse and repeat. The father hasn't left the house for nine months. My friend is exhausted.Thanks for the reply Penna! I'm feeling particularly bitter as covid is currently in my household, genuinely feeling really upset with my friends who should know better, who have key worker partners and kids. At the same time I feel like I'm being judgmental? Who am I to tell anyone how to spend their time, but I am very bitter.
Compare that with someone who just fancies going to a boozy party and couldn't care less about what the outcome of that might be, in terms of spreading infection. That makes me feel frustrated and really disappointed, because the longer this goes on, the longer other people will have to keep doing things that just aren't sustainable.
I am glad things are improving in Preston but the point I am making is the total disrespect to everyone else especially the NHS workers . Numbers in North Wales are quite good but we are starting to hear of more cases and it really doesn`t take a great deal to overwhelm our very limited NHS facilities. In normal circumstances any major injuries get sent to Stoke, Manchester or Liverpool .I've just read Preston's case figures and for last full 7 days available we had 47 fewer cases than the week before. Good news eh? Maybe it's because half of us have bogged off to Wales?
Schools are undoubtedly one of the main reasons it has spread - there is no way to sugar coat it. On average, when you think about the number of kids mixing in schools nationally, this will likely outweigh the number of people that (the second time around) will be required to go into office instead of working from home where they would have before. It's all about the balancing act and trying to ensure that kids do not suffer irreversible damage to their social and academic skills as a result of this. Unfortunately, a line will have to be drawn when cases and deaths get this high, and there is no choice but to look at shutting down schools when things get out of control.
Closing the school or making them remote for a short period is not stealing the education away from a generation. It may, however, actually significantly contribute to saving lives. By the way I have a son and stepson in years 7 and 11 respectively so I fully appreciate your side of the argument.
I've read your posts about these selfish people. You should report them to the local police. It's not an isolated thing, they've done it over and over again. Maybe if a policeman came to the door and had a word with them, they'd realise that people have noticed.
Here's the link for people living in N. Wales.
https://beta.northwales.police.uk/t...s-about-possible-breach-coronavirus-measures/
I don't overly disagree mate, I just think at what point is the school closure enough. If they close for 2-weeks that's one thing. It's another completely to close them again for three-five months. An yes, while they are a problem, I only have to look on social media to see the lack of compliance everywhere making it somewhat of a mute point.
Social media have a tendency to over amplify sadly, but doesn't negate the evaluation of schools. My sister in law is an assistant head at a secondary school and she's in favour of a closure for a period of time, cases are rife in every year group. The safety of teaching staff is often overlooked in these discussions, which is a wider worry personally.
Mine are 4 and 7
They need to be in school
But it was school that made the difference. As soon as should went back R was > than 1.0 and had been ever since.
And despite what some might say I don't believe for a second that the government understood the difference schools going back was going to make
Thanks for that Penna but the police round here aren`t following up on minor issues , only seem to be interested in large parties . An old guy I used to work for reported a family staying in a holiday home near his house and the police phoned him and said they could only do something if they caught them arriving. It is no wonder it keeps happening.