I don't play the victim. You say I am dangerous.
You belong to the staff. Why don't you save the forum and delete my account?
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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I don't play the victim. You say I am dangerous.
You belong to the staff. Why don't you save the forum and delete my account?
Great news, demand probably dropped over the festive period so test returns have improved.
If you think that @Stack, one of the calmest and most reasonable posters on the entire forum, is being arrogant I'd say a bit of self reflection is required.
So much arrogance here....
You are playing the victim by falsely pretending that you are under threat of banning for your unsupportable opinions.
Your opinions are dangerous because they are incorrect and such views undermine the seriousness of the pandemic.
And I don't delete posters I disagree with because a) I am ethical and wouldn't abuse my position in this way and, b) I'd rather engage in debate and show that you can't support your views with actual evidence.
I am not playing the victim.
I am just suggesting what should have been perceived by a moderator as a good idea.
Banning a poster who talks nonsense and whose opinions are dangerous makes perfectly sense.
Any internet forum is moderated. Staff should be free to do what they want.
Blah blah blah. Are you unable to provide evidence or support your assertions?
If the caf started banning people for embarrassing themselves with clueless opinions then the football forum would be fecked.
Pretty funny that the only person even remotely interested in banning @Ecstatic is @Ecstatic himself though. He best hope he's never made a mod as he will inevitably drive himself off the forum with his endless persecution and censorship.
Pretty funny that the only person even remotely interested in banning @Ecstatic is @Ecstatic himself though. He best hope he's never made a mod as he will inevitably drive himself off the forum with his endless persecution and censorship.
Ha!!
There's a difference between opinions and fact. You are passing off your misinformation as fact. Excess deaths literally debunk any accusations of over counting covid 19 deaths. If anything, we are under counting it. Yet, on the basis of hearsay, your post implies that any deaths under the sun are being counted as Covid related, when that is demonstrably nonsense.
The US, for example, as at Aug had roughly 269000 excess deaths, while official covid statistics was around 169 - 170K ++ deaths.
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You got a negative test result? Congratulations!!
I second his suggestion of banning him.
You could just change your password to something impossibly random.
I've also heard nonsense about excess death figure being fiddled. Presumably by "the deep state" to "make us live in fear" or some such nonsense.
In which case why did excess deaths in Australia not occur? In fact in mid-winter anti-covid measures were saving 400 lives a month. Almost as if the actual figures were being reported?
The hospital system my wife works for is the largest in the state. It is now in a gridlock because there are no more beds. They’re running out of things like IV bags, IV tubes, IV poles. Half the night shift ICU nurses are currently out with Covid. They’ve got massive overflow of patients in the Emergency Room hallways in multiple hospitals because the wings they’re supposed to be admitted to are completely full. This is across a hospital system covering about 650,000 people.
I’m really tired of the whole “they’re calling every death Covid” narrative. Bullshit. Really. Bullshit. Nobody is putting their medical or nursing license on the chopping block to fudge the damned numbers for “the man”.
That sounds grim to be honest, but this is the sort of info that people need to hear to stop the narrative of let it run free , which would end up with both flu and COVID surges on hospital’s.
Was visiting my parents in France for christmas and people in the village they live in say similar stuff. They say the hospitals put down covid as cause of death to get more funding. Personally I think it's some kind of coping mechanism. People do, think, and say weird things in terrible times.
That’s already happening. They had their first confirmed flu death a couple weeks ago.
Hell, my wife is still getting patients who are saying things like “I can’t believe this... I didn’t think it was real... I didn’t do the safety measures...etc.” They won’t believe it until it’s them in the hospital bed about to be put on a vent.
It’s the spread of misinformation or fake information that’s causing that and I would blame certain political figures for saying the news is fake for a lot of that, and also people not wanting to believe this shit is real.
How about deaths reported as e.g.heart attack when covid fecked their health earlier but wasn't the primary cause?
Despite flu deaths being down almost everywhere excess deaths are up by far more than the 1.75 million reported covid deaths so actual covid deaths are likely well north of 2 million and maybe as many as 3 million already.
They've started vaccinating people in Italy today. Doctors, nurses and other health workers are the first to get it here, then it'll be folk in care homes and the over-80s. I think that's a sensible priority, because we need the people who are delivering health services to stay Covid-free. The oldies can stay home for a while longer.
It’s absolutely fecking insane. Obviously, most conspiracy theories appeal mainly to idiots but this one is particularly moronic because in order for it to work you need “the man” to have briefed thousands and thousands of doctors to deliberately lie and for them to unquestioningly follow that brief. Despite no personal or professional upside and considerable potential downside. All without even one of them, in any country anywhere in the world, whistle-blowing to the press.
As conspiracy theories go this one is a really badly thought through. Beggars belief that anyone with even half a brain could fail to see through such an obvious fiction.
Thanks for the advice.
I can spend months without positing as I did from October 2019 to August 2020, or in November 2020.
So, I can disappear on my own.
Alright Keyser Soze
If you’ve had the virus and likely have antibodies, can you still catch it again (let’s say a month or two later) and pass it on to others?
Not sure about the month or two time frame.. but yes.
It is what you post when you are here that needs to be justified.
If you’re going to prove just one of your stupid claims please make it this one.
No offense intended but I am no longer interested in posting in this thread.
Nobody denies the reality of Covid on this forum and there is nothing controversial in saying that - in some hospitals in some countries - Covid 19 deaths are either underestimated or overestimated.
I also find ridiculous the "they are liars" narrative because they have a different experience about a reality you don't know, or the whole "they are conspiracy theorists" because some simply think critically and differently.
Even if somebody is wrong, he deserves a minimum of respect
Will do that. Don't worry about it.
Nobody cares.
Covid deaths are hugely underestimated. The excess deaths data combined with reduced deaths from flu and other respiratory viruses is undeniable. To suggest otherwise, as you have, is disingenuous at best.
It has zero to do with experience or feelings. If you were a critical thinker you wouldn't be spouting such rubbish. And as for respect for such rubbish? Give me a break. If you want respect stop disrespecting the dead, ill and frontline workers with such idiocy.
I know but you keep asking me some proofs and I am not interested in debating with unhealthy people like you full of arrogance
I agree
Exactly. Another example, for Germany, looking at a monthly basis, the excess deaths stopped once the lockdown was in place and Covid 19 was under control. It only started picking up again in the last few months once the second wave came in. The facts speak for themselves.I've also heard nonsense about excess death figure being fiddled. Presumably by "the deep state" to "make us live in fear" or some such nonsense.
In which case why did excess deaths in Australia not occur? In fact in mid-winter anti-covid measures were saving 400 lives a month. Almost as if the actual figures were being reported?
Watching how Big Sam wears his mask (Liverpool vs WBA), I finally get the notion why some argue wearing a mask is more dangerous.
Well, a week after lock down started in Wales and my next door neighbours family have arrived from Preston. They come and go as they please, have done since March. It is no wonder we are in the state we are in in the UK.
Sometimes I wish doctors, nurses, epidemiologists, statisticians and others would use critical thinking like Ecstatic rather than wishy washy emotional thinking. We need more critical thinkers like him who can't provide factual evidence for their opinions and instead just have a strop. A critical thinking strop, though, not a wishy washy emotional strop.