SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

I'd imagine they have more doses and a lot more people to administer them.

But the logistics impress me. Surely moving this around is difficult and getting people ready etc. is not as easy. I do personally feel our has been too slow, mainly getting it around to where it needs to be. I get it's low temp etc. but we should have planned more effectively
 
Imagine being surprised London’s rates are surging now after they have been left in tier2 as a political favour.

Didn’t take a scientist to work out this would happen as Christmas approached with or without a new strain.
 
I was discussing this with a friend and wondered how ridiculous this was:

People seem to hate lockdown's. But if the government said we are locking down just so we can vaccinate as many people as possible. I think people would back that. So it's a short term thing for a couple weeks with the aim just to vaccinate people.

I initially thought this could be done without a national lockdown but then this also stops it spreading more, so stops being a whack a mole game.

If Oxford is ready by next week, could we by mid Jan not just go crazy with vaccinating people? Cos from what others said, we have 40 million doses ready?
 
Said on Sunday the UK should be in tier 4.

It's going to be devastating if this spreads and I'm really worried cases in the North West and Greater Manchester will shoot through the roof again. We have the lowest rate of this new strain and were second lowest in cases after the south west but rates have risen.

Damage could be vast with this week of non action and people traveling around, could see 1000-2000 a day die again.
 
Said on Sunday the UK should be in tier 4.

It's going to be devastating if this spreads and I'm really worried cases in the North West and Greater Manchester will shoot through the roof again. We have the lowest rate of this new strain and were second lowest in cases after the south west but rates have risen.

Damage could be vast with this week of non action and people traveling around, could see 1000-2000 a day die again.
Absolutely, they just don’t learn from the previous two lockdowns. We waited too long in Feb/March and it cost us weeks.
 
Said on Sunday the UK should be in tier 4.

It's going to be devastating if this spreads and I'm really worried cases in the North West and Greater Manchester will shoot through the roof again. We have the lowest rate of this new strain and were second lowest in cases after the south west but rates have risen.

Damage could be vast with this week of non action and people traveling around, could see 1000-2000 a day die again.

He should have announced Tier 4 yesterday for everyone and then let Brexit news takeover a bit
 
So basically not enough people able to work from home or staying at home, whilst only less than 70% are paying respect to this virus

From Los Angeles, which is currently the epicenter for new infections and new hospitalizations the problem is twofold.

First, are the selfish cnut business owners who are making people come into the office despite their job being perfectly capable of being done 98-100% from home. I just quit the job I was working at because the owner still has a thing about making people come into the office. I know people who have now gotten COVID from co-workers in the office when they could and should have been working from home.

The other is the absolute entitlement many people feel embodied by all the people from 18-year-olds to 60-year-olds I've heard/seen say some variant of "I don't have to wear a wear, its a 'free' country". The combination of unwilling plus unable is probably at least 50% here in LA which is why its seeing such an explosion in new cases.
 
I cant believe how many people on the web think it isnt real and that we shouldnt lock down.
 
Just read Johnson's July statement in which he expressed his hope to restore normality by Xmas. My god, that did not age well.
 
The internet does have a tend to over inflate the volume of opinions, and serve up opinions to engage you on.

I made the mistake of going to the comments on a Daily Mail article and the top comment with over 2k likes was basically claiming its made up and not dangerous.
 
If a person catches Covid from another, we know it can take a few days before any symptoms show.

But, how long does it take the person to become a transmitter? A few hours, a day?

I'm v concerned for Retail workers on boxing day when people will pile in for discounts/sale, customers don't give a feck they want a bargain, and staff have no choice but to do their job, no social distancing (customers constantly getting close to staff) or stores packaed.

Tomorrows a huge day for transmission, hence the question
 
It's all quiet here, we're in the first of three "red zone" lockdowns for four days, starting today. I don't expect to see anyone when I take the dogs out tomorrow - I have to stay near the house according to the rules, in any case. There'll be another four-day one starting 31st December, with other restrictions in place on the days in between.

I think it's appropriate that the whole country is doing the same thing. Cases in our region aren't high, but I think it's easier for everyone to accept when everyone is in the same boat.
 
It's all quiet here, we're in the first of three "red zone" lockdowns for four days, starting today. I don't expect to see anyone when I take the dogs out tomorrow - I have to stay near the house according to the rules, in any case. There'll be another four-day one starting 31st December, with other restrictions in place on the days in between.

I think it's appropriate that the whole country is doing the same thing. Cases in our region aren't high, but I think it's easier for everyone to accept when everyone is in the same boat.

A am already at home for an hour now. In Germany X-mas family celebrations are limited to a household and max. 4 other people + kids below 14. And there is a nightly curfew from 9 pm to 5 am.
 
If a person catches Covid from another, we know it can take a few days before any symptoms show.

But, how long does it take the person to become a transmitter? A few hours, a day?

I'm v concerned for Retail workers on boxing day when people will pile in for discounts/sale, customers don't give a feck they want a bargain, and staff have no choice but to do their job, no social distancing (customers constantly getting close to staff) or stores packaed.

Tomorrows a huge day for transmission, hence the question
Well going by the tiered system aren’t all retail outlets in tier 3&4 closed anyway? So if they’re in tier 1 or 2 they might be open but theoretically at least they’re in a region with much less community transmission happening.
NB I know this requires faith in the tier system being correct
 
Well going by the tiered system aren’t all retail outlets in tier 3&4 closed anyway? So if they’re in tier 1 or 2 they might be open but theoretically at least they’re in a region with much less community transmission happening.
NB I know this requires faith in the tier system being correct

Just 4
 
Well going by the tiered system aren’t all retail outlets in tier 3&4 closed anyway? So if they’re in tier 1 or 2 they might be open but theoretically at least they’re in a region with much less community transmission happening.
NB I know this requires faith in the tier system being correct

Only T4 has retail closed.

All the others allow for all retail to be open
 
A am already at home for an hour now. In Germany X-mas family celebrations are limited to a household and max. 4 other people + kids below 14. And there is a nightly curfew from 9 pm to 5 am.
It's similar, then. Here we've had a curfew from 10pm to 5am for some weeks now. We can have 2 people visit with children under 14.
 
How do you know it doesn’t exist, is it the IFP nut job that looks like she is going through a mental breakdown, or some other Karen on YouTube, because they are all full of shit, it exists anyone who says otherwise is like flat earth idiot.
It exists of course. Just not worth shutting the world down or the hysteria that’s being caused over it.
 
I have anxiety and I'm taking a covid test in the morning at 9.

Whens the soonest I'll have my results? Easily within 24 hours?
 
So why are all governments being "hysterical" when even Sweden now realises they made a mistake?

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I have anxiety and I'm taking a covid test in the morning at 9.

Whens the soonest I'll have my results? Easily within 24 hours?

Swab test at a site? If so you’re looking at it coming back on Monday/Tuesday at the earliest. More likely Tuesday considering the festive break.
 
Yikes. What makes u say that?

Current test return/backlog is around 2.9 days based on the latest data released yesterday.

1,698 were from tests taken y'day (5%)
15,475 Tuesday (44%)
12,203 Monday (34%)
3,991 Sunday (11%)
1,553 Saturday (4%)
511 Friday (1%)
114 last Thurs