SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Yeah, however I think that by 20/12, just as

What do you mean dosing error?

Was the partial shot, followed by a full shot a fluke?

Is there confidence that the Oxford Vaccine will get approval if the data/trials aren't robust enough for the 90% effecacy?

Yes it was a fluke. Everybody was supposed to get two full doses.
 
Of course a government website crashes because they've used a needlessly complex postcode search rather than a list.
 
Wanted to punch Iain Duncan Smith's smug face on Sky News. Basically said it was all about the economy.
The sad thing is, even though it's so obvious what they are doing they'll get away with it again and again. Every other area of England takes the full force of the economic hit, and London gets the noose loosened whilst we're told to do it for the safety of everyone.
 
how the hell are we in tier 3 in Manchester when the R rate for North West is the best in the country?
 
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/full-list-of-local-restriction-tiers-by-area#tier-3-very-high-alert
Tier 1: Medium alert
South East
  • Isle of Wight
South West
  • Cornwall
  • Isles of Scilly
Tier 2: High alert
North West
  • Cumbria
  • Liverpool City Region
  • Warrington and Cheshire
Yorkshire
  • York
  • North Yorkshire
West Midlands
  • Worcestershire
  • Herefordshire
  • Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin
East Midlands
  • Rutland
  • Northamptonshire
East of England
  • Suffolk
  • Hertfordshire
  • Cambridgeshire, including Peterborough
  • Norfolk
  • Essex, Thurrock and Southend on Sea
  • Bedfordshire and Milton Keynes
London
  • all 32 boroughs plus the City of London
South East
  • East Sussex
  • West Sussex
  • Brighton and Hove
  • Surrey
  • Reading
  • Wokingham
  • Bracknell Forest
  • Windsor and Maidenhead
  • West Berkshire
  • Hampshire (except the Isle of Wight), Portsmouth and Southampton
  • Buckinghamshire
  • Oxfordshire
South West
  • South Somerset, Somerset West and Taunton, Mendip and Sedgemoor
  • Bath and North East Somerset
  • Dorset
  • Bournemouth
  • Christchurch
  • Poole
  • Gloucestershire
  • Wiltshire and Swindon
  • Devon
Tier 3: Very High alert
North East
  • Tees Valley Combined Authority:
    • Hartlepool
    • Middlesbrough
    • Stockton-on-Tees
    • Redcar and Cleveland
    • Darlington
  • North East Combined Authority:
    • Sunderland
    • South Tyneside
    • Gateshead
    • Newcastle upon Tyne
    • North Tyneside
    • County Durham
    • Northumberland
North West
  • Greater Manchester
  • Lancashire
  • Blackpool
  • Blackburn with Darwen
Yorkshire and The Humber
  • The Humber
  • West Yorkshire
  • South Yorkshire
West Midlands
  • Birmingham and Black Country
  • Staffordshire and Stoke-on-Trent
  • Warwickshire, Coventry and Solihull
East Midlands
  • Derby and Derbyshire
  • Nottingham and Nottinghamshire
  • Leicester and Leicestershire
  • Lincolnshire
South East
  • Slough (remainder of Berkshire is tier 2: High alert)
  • Kent and Medway
South West
  • Bristol
  • South Gloucestershire
  • North Somerset
 
Tier 3 until Covid takes its Xmas break then back to Tier 3... with cases seemingly levelling off surely it would make more sense to continue the lockdown for a couple more weeks & then relax slightly. Either way, the Xmas guidance isn’t something I agree with.
 
London in tier two. What a shock!!
Is there justification for London to be in tier 3?

personally I think this drive towards allowing so many people to mix at Christmas is a massive mistake.

really do not see the big deal in having a small Christmas for one year. This 5 day mixing, will get out of control and be the most damaging period of the entire year.
 
Is there justification for London to be in tier 3?

personally I think this drive towards allowing so many people to mix at Christmas is a massive mistake.

really do not see the big deal in having a small Christmas for one year. This 5 day mixing, will get out of control and be the most damaging period of the entire year.
Yep, how many people are going to disregard the 3 family rule and being 6 or 7 families together just for the sake of it.. there won't be any enforcement around Christmas too, so I'm sure there'll be loads taking advantage.
 
Yep, how many people are going to disregard the 3 family rule and being 6 or 7 families together just for the sake of it.. there won't be any enforcement around Christmas too, so I'm sure there'll be loads taking advantage.

it will be carnage. It’s frankly going to be a free for all, and that’s how many people will see it. It’s basically being let out of prison for 5 days and you can go and do what you want.

and yes there won’t be any enforcement, which to a large extent I agree with, unless people are having large scale gatherings/ parties.last thing we need is the police breaking up people’s Xmas dinner!
 
As before, social mixing outside of households or support bubbles will not be allowed indoors.

Spectators will be allowed to watch sport in tier 2, with a maximum crowd capacity outdoors of 50% of the capacity of the stadium or 2,000 people, whichever is smaller. Indoors, the maximum capacity is 1,000.

Visiting family? Nah get fecked.

Watching a sporting event? Sure, bring 999 of your mates.


Pretty nice of covid to not make its way into such venues.
 
Is there justification for London to be in tier 3?
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Visiting family? Nah get fecked.

Watching a sporting event? Sure, bring 999 of your mates.


Pretty nice of covid to not make its way into such venues.

So in Bath, 2000 people can come and watch the rugby, even though 10 miles away Bristol is in tier 3.
 
how the hell are we in tier 3 in Manchester when the R rate for North West is the best in the country?

Latest ONS stats here


It also has a handy tool for finding out your local positivity rate. Here's the overview that shows the concentration of cases is most acute in the North West:



Basically even though the positivity rate is falling in the North West, it's still at the second highest positivity rate after Humberside - which is also tier 3. If you interact with that map it also indicates that the hardest hit areas in the country are, specifically, Blackburn (3.6) and the city of Manchester Tameside (3.4).
 
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