Nice to know we did our bit beating City , it makes it more likely they will do it now .
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Who was it that said any civilisation is 3 meals away from anarchy?
It’s frightening now but on a purely academic level it’ll be interesting how things progress.
For those who posted nonsense like a nothing virus, more and more restrictive measures being taken in Portugal. Tomorrow Universities closed in Lisbon and Coimbra, not all, added with public schools, libraries, museums, etc. Can we stop with nonsensical posts like nothing virus or it’s only like the flu please? We don’t need to be experts to know this isn’t as simple like that. I wonder what next. Oh and outside Asia and Europe I want to see how this will develop in the United States. Certainly not like Trump predicted.
Googled it. Lenin. Interesting quote.
I do think the UK is faring better.
Case increase over the last 5 days:
Italy - 138%
France - 233%
Spain - 337%
Germany - 242%
Switzerland - 259%
UK - 177%
Italy's numbers are skewed by the fact we have so many cases here, so comparing the increase when we first passed 1,000 cases - 252%
Just don't get caught licking their toes.
I am not clicking that but I hovered over it and was not remotely surprised to see it was your state.
I think it remaining in the pool of colds that circulate is highly likely at this stage but like flu a limited immunity will build up in the world's population which will reduce the impact especially if we get a vaccine.
Runny nose is supposedly not one of the usual symptoms, and they say it's a dry cough. Not that that's any reason not to take precautions, of course, just a heads up.
Slightly contradicts the theory that the arrival of warm weather will help.
Lenin.
Probably needs to be warmer than March in Spain, which I imagine is quite nice weather. Try Florida in the summer warm.
Yes, that is very possible.
I wonder why Spanish flu and swine flu (both occurrences of H1N1) 'miraculously' went away. Of course, this is a totally different virus, but would be great if it goes away on its own.
Paddy's day parade in Belfast is cancelled too.
You're also in control of how many people you meet and shake hands with.
In this analogy, the virus is the car that is coming to hit you. It may hit you, it may brake just in time. You have no control over it. But it's still better for you to look before you cross.
Thanks, also thanks @Hugh Jass
I don’t read much non fiction and am pretty sure I heard it on a tv show but every day is a school day for me!
It’s only recently I’ve stopped to think how potentially fragile things are. Despite hundreds/thousands of years of no Armageddon it really is 24h away maybe.
A nice soothing thought to go to kip with anyway...........
And there figures for the proportion of those with the illness who need ICU treatment is about the same as elsewhere which means that as little as 1% of the population infected at any one time will overwhelm our ICU capacity - once at capacity things only get worse until the death/recovery numbers exceed the number getting sick and requiring ICU treatment. This is why containment is so vital.
Figures are variable all round, for various reasons. But a big one is that there are/may be 2 strains. And who/where gets what is unclear.
Very good news too, if the less dangerous strain becomes dominant.
The idea here is that if there was a less dangerous strain and we all got it, it would be like a vaccine in that we'd then be immune from the dangerous one?
Runny nose is definitely on the symptoms list put out by the WHO and CDC.
The cough was dry. It just started producing phlegm today while I was at work.
The most aggressive one is found on 70% of infected, with the less (and original) strain being found in the remaining 30%.
To be fair, this is weird, the less dangerous one should be the dominant one (in this way the virus can spread better).
People thinking this isn't a potentially very bad situation need to wise up, seriously.
Ah, right. Ta.
Is it best if they self isolate?
I went a bit deeper and some are also saying it is trotski and others. You know how the internet is with quotes.
Some writer had also said: every dog is two meals away from being a wolf. Which is a take on it.
Many people do. Far too many.
So in China it started real REAL bad. Am I right I’m saying it has/is slowing there?! It’s not like China cases/deaths are continuing to increase at the same rate Italy now is.
Does that mean containment is working/can work?
Does that mean containment is working/can work?
Nice to see Boris imitating his hero, the mayor from Jaws,
The dancing, or the licking the poles after?
Bang on the money, best post I've seen in this thread by some stretch. You can't just stop everything. People over here won't put up with that, no one in this country likes to be told what to do.
Thing is - it didn't. Flu shots right now are still trivalent and quadrivalent and still include H1N1 after all these years because it's still around:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/quadrivalent.htm
I was diagnosed with Influenza A myself two weeks ago.
Yes.
It was worse than in Italy, but the lockdown has worked (for a few days in a row, the number of infected people is under 100, with each day lowering). Essentially (and slightly simplified) if the number of infected people in a day is higher than the number of infected people in the previous day, it means that the increase is exponential, and the situation will go beyond control soon. If it is lower, then it means that the worst has passed, and the disease is geting contained. China went from a few thousand infected people per day to only 40, so they are doing a great job, and you can expect soon the cases to reach 0*.
* Probably not, cause in the end, the world is dynamic, and there is movement between China and the other countries. However, in a few weeks, the Chinese will get worried if someone travels there from other countries (cause it might be infected), rather than the other way around.
That’s what she’s doing. I’m just hoping I don’t get whatever she’s got.
To get tested in SC, she’d have to go the hospital and go into quarantine until the SC Dept of Health could get a kit up here to test her... and then if positive, they’ll keep her quarantined until she’s asymptomatic... which will be a sizable hospital bill, even though the hospital is her employer.
(If anybody needed more proof that our system is broken)
@Arruda How is the situation at the moment in Portugal and if you know, particularly Lisbon? My 84 year old Grandma has decided she needs to go home and is flying back Wednesday. I'm scared shirtless, she doesn't seem to care.
I had no idea about it. So, whoever got the flu shot, didn't get H1N1 in 2009?
To be fair, the 2009 version of it was milder than the normal flu. It is crazy how much these viruses mutate though (the 1918 version had a mortality rate of 0.1, while the 2009 version, had only 0.0005 mortality rate).
This is completely untrue. Also the “two strains” thing has got a LOT of stick from actual credible sources. That one Chinese document is not the basis for facts that you seem to be certain of, especially considering it was from 100 people. Please, please, only say factual information.
The is NO information on the severity of disease between mutations (which is what a virus does by the way ).Only that the “S” type came first, then the “L” type, but the L type actually was seen less after January in that study.
I just said what I read on that study (which yes, I should have added that it is just an unconfirmed study at this point). Point taken though, thanks for the advice.
No worries buddy. I just don’t want to unduly scare people in these uncertain times!I just said what I read on that study (which yes, I should have added that it is just an unconfirmed study at this point). Point taken though, thanks for the advice.
Prepare for shitshow