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Young I would be happy to see go - he has been a good squad player but if we want to rebuild we need young players with potential... and thats why I'm not sure about Depay
I think I'd like to see him given a season under Jose as his price has probably dropped a lot anyway and he is on a long term contract so for the sake of another seasons wages I'd take the chance because there is undoubted potential there if it can be harnessed.
Same goes for Adnan - I doubt both him and Depay are going to make it for us but give them a season and let them know they are playing for their future and see what happens (hopefully at least one of them steps up)

Young is a better player than Depay though. And Depay's potential is not all that. Probably about the Ashley Young level. Makes no sense to sell Young and then wait for a couple of years for a player to become as good as Young.
 
I'm not as in favour of this as I was 4-5 months ago. In amidst the mist of a disappointing season, pretty much anyone who could run fast and dribble a bit seemed like an enticing prospect. However, looking at this again, I don't think it makes sense unless we're going for a proper clear-out of attackers. Mane strikes me as an impact player who could be a solid addition to the squad, and exciting/decisive on his day, but never quite top-drawer. And I'm not sure we need to stock up on more "decent" players unless we're selling many and, say, he replaces Young, or something like that.

I still personally feel we need to either sign a top class/near top class right winger, or someone who could be. And Mane doesn't strike me as either. As the alternate option for the RW/SS position, he'd be very good.
 
From what I've seen, he plays best through the middle. I like him and would be happy for us to go for him but I'm not convinced on him being our first choice solution for the right wing spot.
 
Young is a better player than Depay though. And Depay's potential is not all that. Probably about the Ashley Young level. Makes no sense to sell Young and then wait for a couple of years for a player to become as good as Young.
I'd disagree - I think Depays potential is higher and in a couple of years I would hope he can have developed whilst given Ashley Youngs age I would suggest he is more likely to at best stay the same but in probability decline.
 
I'm not as in favour of this as I was 4-5 months ago. In amidst the mist of a disappointing season, pretty much anyone who could run fast and dribble a bit seemed like an enticing prospect. However, looking at this again, I don't think it makes sense unless we're going for a proper clear-out of attackers. Mane strikes me as an impact player who could be a solid addition to the squad, and exciting/decisive on his day, but never quite top-drawer. And I'm not sure we need to stock up on more "decent" players unless we're selling many and, say, he replaces Young, or something like that.

I still personally feel we need to either sign a top class/near top class right winger, or someone who could be. And Mane doesn't strike me as either. As the alternate option for the RW/SS position, he'd be very good.

Sane?

Even that is a bit of a risk because it will be another young player that we going to have to develop. We need to hit the ground running next season.

There's a lot of good wingers. But not many world class ones besides Reus. Even he and Griezmann play better through the centre for me.

I'd say go big for Mahrez.
 
I'm not as in favour of this as I was 4-5 months ago. In amidst the mist of a disappointing season, pretty much anyone who could run fast and dribble a bit seemed like an enticing prospect. However, looking at this again, I don't think it makes sense unless we're going for a proper clear-out of attackers. Mane strikes me as an impact player who could be a solid addition to the squad, and exciting/decisive on his day, but never quite top-drawer. And I'm not sure we need to stock up on more "decent" players unless we're selling many and, say, he replaces Young, or something like that.

I still personally feel we need to either sign a top class/near top class right winger, or someone who could be. And Mane doesn't strike me as either. As the alternate option for the RW/SS position, he'd be very good.
Jose doesnt really use pure wingers though does he? I forget, could have that wrong
 
You share, he was the one who made use of the diamond and there arent any pure wingers in that.

He had Robben and Duff at Chelsea, signed Quaresma and Mancini at Inter (although it never worked out), Di Maria at Real and had Hazard at Chelsea. Signed Willian as well to play on the right.
 
I'd get rid of both Young and Depay and sign Mane instead. A good squad player who can step in as a starter if required.

So get rid of two squad players to sign a squad player. No thanks, we dont actually have a bad squad in my opinion if someone can lift the players, what we need is four maybe five starting eleven players, with half of them being real star quality at least potential wise.
 
Young is a better player than Depay though. And Depay's potential is not all that. Probably about the Ashley Young level. Makes no sense to sell Young and then wait for a couple of years for a player to become as good as Young.
 
He's a mercenary who goes missing for long stretches and isn't anything special. For the RW and the #10/SS there are better options.
 
So get rid of two squad players to sign a squad player. No thanks, we dont actually have a bad squad in my opinion if someone can lift the players, what we need is four maybe five starting eleven players, with half of them being real star quality at least potential wise.

He's a better player than both of them so, yes it makes sense. He can also play across the frontline. Would be a good squad player to have imo.
 
Surely with the appointment of José this will be the end of our interest in Mane. He doesn't strike me to have the defensive work rate that Mourinho desires from his wide men or #10.

My main concern with Mane is his tendency to through a bit of a stropp when he's not getting his way in a game. Think he has bucket loads of talent and must have one of the best burst of acceleration in the league. Something we've been missing out wide and at #10.

Do people think we will still be in for him? (If we ever were interested in the first place.)
 
If Mourinho believes he got a magic formula to get the best out of african players he should be of interest. In my opinion a bit underrated due to being played as as an AMC a lot this season. A lot better as a winger and the numbers prove it.
 
If Mourinho believes he got a magic formula to get the best out of african players he should be of interest. In my opinion a bit underrated due to being played as as an AMC a lot this season. A lot better as a winger and the numbers prove it.

Would love him at OT.
 
I think if it's true that we're attemptimg to sign breel embolo then mane is probably off the menu. Overpriced by s'hampton anyway.
 
I think if it's true that we're attemptimg to sign breel embolo then mane is probably off the menu. Overpriced by s'hampton anyway.
Honestly whats overpriced in this market when Watford can knock back a 20million pound offer for Troy fecking Deeney?
35-40 for Mane is probably about par now.
 
He's a mercenary who goes missing for long stretches and isn't anything special. For the RW and the #10/SS there are better options.

Really, Sane is gone and Mahrez leaving will depend on Vardy to Arse, you know how tight Wenger is

Surely with the appointment of José this will be the end of our interest in Mane. He doesn't strike me to have the defensive work rate that Mourinho desires from his wide men or #10.

Hazard and Willian didn't really track back all that much...

Honestly whats overpriced in this market when Watford can knock back a 20million pound offer for Troy fecking Deeney?
35-40 for Mane is probably about par now.

Maybe for the Pool, yes...How much did you pay for Lovern again?

Bump, I think this guy is a very good player and will want to go.
 
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Really, Sane is gone and Mahrez leaving will depend on Vardy to Arse, you know how tight Wenger is

Then we get Mkhitaryan or James or Ounas or Embolo, there are loads of options out there without paying silly money for this mediocre player with a bad attitude IMO.
 
Then we get Mkhitaryan or James or Ounas or Embolo, there are loads of options out there without paying silly money for this mediocre player with a bad attitude IMO.
Mkhitaryan is the player we should move for. James isn't very good on the right (but if he becomes available at a reasonable price we should move for him and shift Mata). If United played Ounas as first choice RW next season, then I'd be very surprised-he's a good prospect but not ready to be anything more than a squad player if we move for him. Embolo is a striker for me and simply put he isn't very good on the right wing. Mane is therefore a very good option, especially considering the lack of any real top RW available. However, again the problem with Mane is his best position isn't on the RW and he would likely cost close to £30m.
 
Bit of grumpy looking so and so, but maybe he just needs a top club and manager to make him happy, would really like him to be our right wing buy this summer.
 
Mkhitaryan is the player we should move for. James isn't very good on the right (but if he becomes available at a reasonable price we should move for him and shift Mata). If United played Ounas as first choice RW next season, then I'd be very surprised-he's a good prospect but not ready to be anything more than a squad player if we move for him. Embolo is a striker for me and simply put he isn't very good on the right wing. Mane is therefore a very good option, especially considering the lack of any real top RW available. However, again the problem with Mane is his best position isn't on the RW and he would likely cost close to £30m.

And there is also the issue of him being a bad egg, I don't want to see us bringing in petulant little strop merchants when we have many young players who need good pros to shape them. Mane I just don't think is all that good anyway and certainly not at £30M.
 
And there is also the issue of him being a bad egg, I don't want to see us bringing in petulant little strop merchants when we have many young players who need good pros to shape them. Mane I just don't think is all that good anyway and certainly not at £30M.
Well I can't really comment on his personality tbh as I don't know him personally. But then again, he wanted to leave when we moved for him and Southampton denied him a move. His form then dropped-whether that be due to him not caring or otherwise. But his form really picked up at the end of the season and he scored a fair few goals. Mane is not world class, nor will he be. But he's a fair bit better than any of our current options. So I'm not saying he should be first option as a RW for us, but he may well be our best option considering he's definitively available.
 
Well I can't really comment on his personality tbh as I don't know him personally. But then again, he wanted to leave when we moved for him and Southampton denied him a move. His form then dropped-whether that be due to him not caring or otherwise. But his form really picked up at the end of the season and he scored a fair few goals. Mane is not world class, nor will he be. But he's a fair bit better than any of our current options. So I'm not saying he should be first option as a RW for us, but he may well be our best option considering he's definitively available.


He has twice moved clubs in the few years and acted like a stroppy kid on both occasions until he got his own way. If he is the best option we can get I'd rather we kept the powder dry and pressed on with Adnan and Memphis than spend big money on another middle of the road player like Mane.
 
He has twice moved clubs in the few years and acted like a stroppy kid on both occasions until he got his own way. If he is the best option we can get I'd rather we kept the powder dry and pressed on with Adnan and Memphis than spend big money on another middle of the road player like Mane.
Well I don't see anything wrong with moving clubs if he's trying to take a step up in his career. I agree that he may not have acted professionally, but atm he's at a club that unless he plays his cards right, he could be stuck there for a fair few years longer than he wishes. Mane has proven this season that he's quite a bit better than Memphis and Januzaj seems to have stalled. Ofc, that's based on this gone season and thing's can change. Our current options on the RW simply put aren't good enough, so apart from say Mkhitariyan, who'd you say we should target?
 
Well I don't see anything wrong with moving clubs if he's trying to take a step up in his career. I agree that he may not have acted professionally, but atm he's at a club that unless he plays his cards right, he could be stuck there for a fair few years longer than he wishes. Mane has proven this season that he's quite a bit better than Memphis and Januzaj seems to have stalled. Ofc, that's based on this gone season and thing's can change. Our current options on the RW simply put aren't good enough, so apart from say Mkhitariyan, who'd you say we should target?

That's the thing though for me, he handled both situations like a spoiled brat and I'd rather not bring that type of mentality into the club, we already did it with Rojo, another waste of money IMO. As for alternative if Mkhitariyan doesn't happen, I think I listed a few above and I'd add Joao Mario to that group, but I'd honestly rather Lingard than dropping such a big amount on Mane.
 
That's the thing though for me, he handled both situations like a spoiled brat and I'd rather not bring that type of mentality into the club, we already did it with Rojo, another waste of money IMO. As for alternative if Mkhitariyan doesn't happen, I think I listed a few above and I'd add Joao Mario to that group, but I'd honestly rather Lingard than dropping such a big amount on Mane.

How big amount?
If we want to make substantial progress 1 manager and a new striker alone is not going to get us a title. Lingard has shown to be at best a useful squad player.
 
How big amount?
If we want to make substantial progress 1 manager and a new striker alone is not going to get us a title. Lingard has shown to be at best a useful squad player.

£30M, and I wasn't suggesting 1 striker is all we need, but Mane isn't the answer to anything, not good enough and a bad attitude.
 
£30M, and I wasn't suggesting 1 striker is all we need, but Mane isn't the answer to anything, not good enough and a bad attitude.

We need a right winger. Mane has done a very impressive job on that side of the pitch and would provide a very good outlet option in our counter attacking system. Moreover, Mane just turned 24 years old.

Not the best option--his attitude is a little concerning--but he definitely is a player to be considered especially if we are unable to get higher tier guys like Mkhitaryan, Sane etc...
 
We need a right winger. Mane has done a very impressive job on that side of the pitch and would provide a very good outlet option in our counter attacking system. Moreover, Mane just turned 24 years old.

Not the best option--his attitude is a little concerning--but he definitely is a player to be considered especially if we are unable to get higher tier guys like Mkhitaryan, Sane etc...

Stockpiling mediocrity at high prices is not the answer, and his best performances have been as a SS not as a RW.
 
Mane stats on Transfermarket.com

RW 21 games 9 goals 5 assists
SS 13 games 2 goals 2 assists
LW 6 games 4 goals 2 assists
AM 3 games 0 goals 0 assists.
 
False, numbers and eye test prove that Mane is much better as a RW.
Why do you think he is mediocre?

Eye test certainly doesn't prove that at all, just because some stat service has his nominal starting position as RW for some games doesn't mean he operated from there. All of his best performances have come when he's had the free role off the striker, not actually playing as a RW. I think he's mediocre because he has never impressed me, he's very fast but has 1 good game followed by 5 where he does nothing, and his touch is nothing special, nor is his dribbling. He's like Bolasie, he has patches of brief form where he seems hard to handle, but nothing more than that.
 
Young is a better player than Depay though. And Depay's potential is not all that. Probably about the Ashley Young level. Makes no sense to sell Young and then wait for a couple of years for a player to become as good as Young.

Young is a hustle guy who can provide a decent offensive threat through isolation play in an effort to put in a good cross.

Depay is:
-a great striker of the ball with a quiet incredible longshot
-good at picking out passes in the final third
-capable of making great runs to put himself into good positions to score
-Has speed and skill to his game

His poor decision making and failure to adjust to the BPL in 1 season got the better of him. However, his upside is high and he should be given more than 1 season to prove himself.
 
Eye test certainly doesn't prove that at all, just because some stat service has his nominal starting position as RW for some games doesn't mean he operated from there.
Stats+ Eye Test is how we formulate opinions and analysis about an athletes performance. This is how it is in every sport and has never been different. Common knowledge. Speaking of common knowledge, these stat services attribute a players performance to a position based on where they were most active throughout the game. It is concrete data, and the data has proven that he has been more efficient and productive coming off of the right.
ll of his best performances have come when he's had the free role off the striker, not actually playing as a RW.
False, when he scored a hattrick against City it came from playing on the right.
but has 1 good game followed by 5 where he does nothing,
If we are basing his performances on SS and RW combined you may have a point. However, as a right midfielder, he has been quite consistent in his performances
nor is his dribbling.
Beg to differ, what I really like about his dribbling is his directness and how he sets himself up into goal scoring or threatening positions and even if he takes a touch to heavy, he is very agile to recover on the ball.
He's like Bolasie
Nothing like Bolasie. Bolasie is a player who is too focused on individual brilliance/ aesthetic satisfaction instead of the team aspect of the game.
 
@Obiorahking_ r I'm not doing one of those post splitting arguments about a player I don't give two shits about. Eye test comes from watching him play, how many times he popped up on the right vs the actual effective moments in the game are two different things, the City hat-trick being a prime example as Tadic was on the right when he scored it. His effectiveness came from attacking in central areas, not cutting in off the RW and slipping in a striker or hitting a shot because his left foot is not very good. This guy is not worth £30M and lacks the professionalism and all round talent to be a top player IMO.
 
Would be an upgrade over any of our RW. Should be a fallback option not our first choice with Mkhitaryan and Mahrez available. Embolo has a higher ceiling and is built like Martial, we've seen how well that works in the PL. So of all the players we are linked too, he'd be at the bottom.
 
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