Well I guess we should sneak in and sign this Mane fella given brexit and all. I bet he snub liverpool for us.
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Should try harder to land our target than hijacking L'pool target, who we don't have plan for. No, not all players certainly favor United for L'pool if he later can offer them regular play time while United can't.
He is a target. Just not one we are actively pursuing at the moment.
He was a target under LVG. There has not been any solid sources on interest from us since Mourinho takeover (same with that Anderson from Lazio).
To be honest I wouodnt trust the vast majority of sources, they linked us with Stones, Manolas, Garay, Zouma, Varane and we went and signed Bailly. That's just centre back.
He really doesn't. Not yet anyway. Hopefully this season but I'm not holding my breath just yet.
To whonever said Torres, bbc say he was 20m in 2007.
Why? Is this a "I don't rate Mkhitaryan", a "I don't rate Mkhitaryan as a winger", "Mkhitaryan is too hipster" or a "Mane is better than Mkhitaryan" thing?
Bingo. I'd rather have Mane's pace and dribbling ability out on the wing.
I don't think mane is a very good dribbler, he is a speed merchant.
Disagree with that.
He's both. Very effective player who will benefit them tremendously.
Whenever i have watched him, his dribbling seems to be very hit and miss. I was not saying he can't dribble, but it's his pace which makes him tough to deal with. I think Firmino is a better dribbler than him. Also, his decision making in final third is not very consistent, the same issues Firmino brings I guess.
Who would you rather have for 30m Mane or Mkhitaryan? I think Mkhitaryan is a more complete player and bring more to the table.
Do you think Klopp would buy a player who can't dribble ?
Don't think so, but I never said he "can't dribble", i was trying to say that he is not a great dribbler & his pace makes him more effective than his dribbling. I also think Firmino is a better dribbler than him, Mane is better finisher than Firmino. Coutinho is better than both. Maybe you have a different point of view.
So, who would you rather have for 30m in our team? Mane or Mkhitaryan? Akash prefers Mane over Mkhitaryan.
I'm not really looking at Mane as a player we are considering, but rather how he may benefit LFC and compliment their already pretty good attack with Coutinho and Firmino. I think its quite obvious that Klopp is building a fast, counterattacking side and Mane would be a great addition.
I don't think Mané is particularly good when he plays as the winger. Yeah, he's fast and can dribble but he always looks far more threatening when he's played through the middle.
The kinds of performances you'd want to see from him are way too scarce to make him a viable starting option at one of the top clubs anyway, especially as a winger. I'd take Mkhitaryan over him in a heartbeat, it's not even a difficult choice.
The kinds of performances you'd want to see from him are way too scarce to make him a viable starting option at one of the top clubs anyway, especially as a winger. I'd take Mkhitaryan over him in a heartbeat, it's not even a difficult choice.
Okay that is fine.
I just think that he wouldn't improve a top 6 club.
I laughed more about "today's market".....it's really funny or actually sad that the price for players like Mane or Deeney is now 30m.
Yeah, same. I think Mkhitaryan will just continue the legacy of Mata and Kagawa in being a #10 we've bought and played out of position. How he fares is of course, on him. Thing is Mane would probably cost a lot. Before the summer, I thought if we are going to spend big, we should try and get Lucas Moura and make a player out of him, but apparently PSG don't negotiate for players they wan't to keep. I really can't think of a good, pacy wide right player who would be reasonably priced. Take the gamble on Leroy Sane, perhaps?
Good player, I'd have him here. Can play all across the front 3 and will definitely improve the scousers.
Ah yes, it's gone bonkers. Too much money in the game really.
BBC are saying Southampton want £40m
30m sounded kind of reasonable, 40m is a lot of money for Mane.
He's not a £40m winger imo. At that kind of money, you want Martial level kind of ability.
You could have some remote chance to sign Kroos or Mahrez with that kind of money... and some bitching about Ibra on free ?
Lord, help these people.
Lord, help these people.
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Liverpool in hot pursuit.....
RAWK dismissing the BBC article in unison, needless to say they would be taking 40m as a gospel if it was United
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If Liverpool sign Mane, is it bye bye to Lallana/ Ibe ? I am not sure how Klopp is going to accommodate Studs, Ibe, Origi, lallana, Coutinho, Firmino, (Mane), Milner all in 4 positions without European competition . I have intentionally left out Benteke as he is going to be sold out.
He has to loan 1-2 out ( Origi / Ibe may be) to give all these players some game time.
He has to loan 1-2 out ( Origi / Ibe may be) to give all these players some game time.
If I was a DoF for Southhampton I wouldn't concider any offer below £35m, with the intention to land close to £40m including adds.
Why should Soton accept that Pool come every summer and buy their best players without reasonable compensation. 40m in today's market is similar to 30m last summer.
Sadio Mané is quality and would instantly improve Klopps team with his acceleration and speed.
If we don't buy Mahrez or similar then I'm actually a little bit disappointed that Mou didn't go for him. He would fit our set up too. Together with Zlatan, Tony and Mhkitaryan we would be deadly on the counter.
I don't want to see him at Anfield. He's to good for my likening to be part of YAWN.
Why should Soton accept that Pool come every summer and buy their best players without reasonable compensation. 40m in today's market is similar to 30m last summer.
Sadio Mané is quality and would instantly improve Klopps team with his acceleration and speed.
If we don't buy Mahrez or similar then I'm actually a little bit disappointed that Mou didn't go for him. He would fit our set up too. Together with Zlatan, Tony and Mhkitaryan we would be deadly on the counter.
I don't want to see him at Anfield. He's to good for my likening to be part of YAWN.
2 ways of looking at this as a United fan
1- Southampton loosing their manager and 2 high profile players could well destabilise their start to the season which is good for us what with them being our first home game and a fixture we've lost the last 2 seasons running
2- Mane will improve Liverpool considerably which is bad for us
1- Southampton loosing their manager and 2 high profile players could well destabilise their start to the season which is good for us what with them being our first home game and a fixture we've lost the last 2 seasons running
2- Mane will improve Liverpool considerably which is bad for us
Liverpool is using their people in the media to drive down Mane's price. Yesterday late evening at the same all the usual suspects [D. King (Mail), C. Bascombe (Telegraph), Melissa Reddy (Goal), J. Pearce (LPool Echo)] wrote articles with almost the same headline - Liverpool closing in on Mane on a 30m deal. It's clear that they're fed by the club.
Don't think it's going to work anyway. Southampton is in no rush to sell Mane as he's 2 years left on his contract. Southampton knows how to drive a hard bargain and after seeing the likes of Deeney is not being sold for £25m, I can't see them selling Mane for anything less than £35m.
As for Mane, he's very inconsistent. Scores a hat-trick then goes missing for 10 games and then scores a brace and so on. If he can improve his consistency, there is a good player in there.
Don't think it's going to work anyway. Southampton is in no rush to sell Mane as he's 2 years left on his contract. Southampton knows how to drive a hard bargain and after seeing the likes of Deeney is not being sold for £25m, I can't see them selling Mane for anything less than £35m.
As for Mane, he's very inconsistent. Scores a hat-trick then goes missing for 10 games and then scores a brace and so on. If he can improve his consistency, there is a good player in there.
We should me aiming higher, he's in the Benteke/Lallana/Mirallas/Navas tier. You can spend 40 fecking million so much better than spew it all on Mane.
But... But Martial was a waste of money!
It seems like if United ever linked with a player, then he performs to a good level for some fans, then the fans rate him despite the club no longer is interested. Fans would be shocked if the club sign a player with less/no tabloid interest. If Mkhitarayan can't sign this summer and leaves for free to Bayern, then people would be angry at the club, even if we sign another Martial from nowhere.
Thing is Mkhitaryan is way more proficient dribbler than both Mata + Kagawa combined. Sane is a good shout except we need a more established player in Mourinho first season to kick start he momentum. Another young players who still need to redefine his style is not ideal. Martial was a special case and IMO arguably he has some obvious big weaknesses in his play he needs to improve. These weaknesses were glossed over due to the team overall poor performance and Martial happened to be one of the best performers in his debut PL season and still very young.
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Similar to Clyne we got Darmian and so far it hasn't worked out. Micky isn't a better right winger at 27 for me. He's a great 10. Love to see Rashford perhaps on the right. We need to give him the opportunity for me and take the gamble of having him on the field.
Clyne is rubbish, he's behind Walker in the pecking order for England ffs. Mkiharyan is comfortable a better footballer than Mane in every position.
I bring you "a waste of money" Martial vs PL proven Sterling for a huge fee tier comparison.
Rashford will have plenty of chance if he keeps up what he did from last season. Putting him on the wing and make him as first choice would put too much pressure on him to change his game to suit the position. He may lose his striker instinct. He should be eased into the team as the back up/ competition to whoever our first choice #9 is.
I don't think we need to gamble, he's only 18, there's plenty of time to develop him without starting regularly.
It's a bit telling that Mkhitaryan and Mane are available at the same price and will probably play the same position but Klopp who has managed Mkhitaryan would rather go for Mane and we are not even trying for him.
Or L'pool already has enough play making attackers in Coutinho, Firmino, Lallana,... They need an enforcer type in Mane. We on the other hand lack of feet and real play maker. Mata Rooney Lingaard are all flawed. Januzaj, Pereira were unproven and inconsistent to worth the gamble when we lack the backbone for the starting XI.
Well there's two reasons. The first is that Mkhitaryan didn't perform well under Klopp, really not fitting Klopp's system nor managerial style. The second, is quite simply the fact that Liverpool are not an appealing club for a player at Dortmund. Mkhitaryan wouldn't want to join them. Early rumours that Arsenal were interested in him too, but if you believe Raiola (dubious source, I know) Manchester United is the club he wants.
He'd be a good signing for Liverpool or us. We in particular are crying out for pace on the right wing. £40m is last year's £25m for PL clubs, such prices shouldn't be a surprise.
You're trying to read too much into it!
As mentioned above,
1) Liverpool can't attract Mkhitaryan's level of players hence they're shopping at Southampton. For all the bluster surrounding Klopp's revolution, the harsh reality is he couldn't even bring Gotze, a player warming Bayern's bench for 3 seasons now and a player Bayern desperately wants to get off their books, to Liverpool. It's not hard to figure out why his targets are the likes of Zielinski, Chilwell etc.
2) Mkhitaryan didn't perform well under Klopp and he somewhat blamed Klopp for that. This is what he said;
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