No point speculating he may have been offered a lesser role and declined. He's probably very grateful for getting to manage us and he's certainly raised his profile. Hope he gets a big job soon.
Ruud van Nistelrooy | Leaves United
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Thought he was? Technical coach or something
Hake's LinkedIn oddly enough posted a coaching structure. No idea if the below works or not
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/the-...zB?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android
Kept his reputation intact at least.
Now I sort of wish Ruud hadn’t been so vocal during his interim tenure. He gave us a much needed boost and I’m thankful for that but all that talk from him has led to all this talk from fans and media about will he / won’t he
Okay I thought it was some execute role like technical director or something
This is not the clubs decision it is the new manager and for him the right decision. As others have said as soon as Ruud came in it created pressure for ETH. You cannot have two managers at the club.
Coaching was only a small bit of his role so I’d assume so
Why do you think he came? He was sold a project. He was actually sold a pup. He's been here a matter of a few months. If this is 'how it is' that coaches bring their own people then it is wrong. Fletch has existed across multiple coaches. They could have found a solution for a club legend. They did for Fletcher and he is not as qualified.
With the news of the treatment of Sir Alex and the staff this lacks so much class to say the least.
Legend!! Ruud's time to return would come shortly. The online fanbase has been wrong about Van Gaal, Mourinho and Ten Hag and would likely be wrong about Amorim (a 39 year old coming in and sacking the previous team). Mostly wrong about Ole as well - only manager to finish in the top 4 in consecutive years.
Of course it is the club decision. Let's not get addled by the PR spin.
Disappointing decision making all of a sudden.
You sacked Ten Hag two matches too early, van Nistelrooy's swangsong was supposed to be against Arsenal, and it should have been Southgate over Amorim.
You sacked Ten Hag two matches too early, van Nistelrooy's swangsong was supposed to be against Arsenal, and it should have been Southgate over Amorim.
When he signed on this summer he must have known that ETH could get fired at anytime, so I don't think this has rocked his world.
Thank you Ruud for a wonderful 4 games.
Thank you Ruud for a wonderful 4 games.
If anybody is addled ...
Ruud is not daft. He's not coming to Old Trafford to see him being ousted after a few months. In fact many commenators thought he had been brought in to take over when Ten Hag was finally sacked. It's a bloody mess.
He would just have been in the way. He seems very likable and did well as an interim but that's irrelevant. The same is true of Ole. He was brought in to improve the strikers and that didn't happen so I wouldn't call him a success, even if the failure belongs with ETH.
Treatment, give it a rest for crying out loud,
SAF was global ambassador, yet he can’t go anywhere globally cause he’s not the young pup he once was and health unfortunately isn’t where it was.
Darren Fletcher isn’t a first team coach per se, he has an hybrid role similar but lesser than that of Wilcox as that’s the role he had before.
RvN will have known the potential outcome, this was one of them and that’s that.
Keeping him on under a new manager when he wants that role himself is a recipe for disaster.
Please. He knew coming in as backroom member would make him expendable.
It's a win win situation for him. If it worked then he's part of a winning staff. If it failed he's get a small interim period to audition for the PL. He leaves with his head high, a good 4 game sample to show clubs what he can do and I bet he'd be among the odds for new openings when Southampton /Palace/West ham eventually sack their manager.
We made the right move for the club, there's nothing messy about any of this.
Sorry to see him go. Hope he gains more experience and comes back an even better manager
Sad news, but probably best for Ruud in the long term.
Made the best of a bad situation and brought some positivity back.
Made the best of a bad situation and brought some positivity back.
I'm sure if Amorim wanted him the club would have kept him. It's a hard enough job at the best of times. If it were me I would want people I'd known for years who I trust like a brother as well.
I would have loved Ruud to have stayed too.
Also which position do you think he should have had. Whatever he gave him would likely be a demotion.
Nice 4 games he had, should help him land a decent job somewhere else. If he proves himself at a high level, the door will be open in the future to manage us. Hope he will have a successful career
Cheers Ruud. Fecking legend.
At least he leaves with a few million in his pocket and at a time where there are some decent managerial vacancys at places like Dortmund and Roma.
Thinking logically, it's the right move for Amorim and Ruud. Amorim clearly has a backroom staff he trusts and works with, especially his top assistants. If he had no role for Ruud, it would be pretty insulting to just have him as part of the setup in a a Benny McCarthy/Fletcher role in training. Ruud is head coach material and at worst a No.2, so if he wasn't going to have that responsibility he was better off leaving.
The person who really screwed Ruud was ETH by doing such a terrible job. The person I feel for the most in all of this is Rene Hake. He left a permanent job to be without a permanent job four months later and without a reputation boost like Ruud did.
The person who really screwed Ruud was ETH by doing such a terrible job. The person I feel for the most in all of this is Rene Hake. He left a permanent job to be without a permanent job four months later and without a reputation boost like Ruud did.
The right move.
Ridiculous post. Why shouldn't a new head coach get to pick who his staff are? Take the nostalgia goggles off for a second.
I feel for him coming into a difficult position under ten Hag, but I'm glad he's free to pursue managerial opportunities, and Amorim can come in and work with his own staff.
Sad to see him go, but felt that was coming.
Hope he gets a full time job somewhere and start managing again. There could even be openings in the league soon tbh.
Hope he gets a full time job somewhere and start managing again. There could even be openings in the league soon tbh.
How much did we pay him to leave early?
Missing the point, I see. Keep taking the PR tablets
As much as we all love Ruud, we finally seem ending that "Memories and Legends FC" bullshit and let the new manager decide on who he wants to work with.
Deja vu from being in an internet cafe in Pisa in 2006
Great decision by the club and Amorim. The club can no longer hold onto nostalgia. None of the reasons for keeping him even made sense “he knows the club & players” with our group of players that’s likely to be a negative that undermines Amorim.
Wish Ruud all the best. No doubt he’ll get a manager’s job somewhere and can build up his CV.
Wish Ruud all the best. No doubt he’ll get a manager’s job somewhere and can build up his CV.
Exactly.
okay, sport. Stay switched on for the rest of us.Great news. Hopefully that means Amorim is being properly backed with all of his own team moving over, and that they are all successfully getting work permits.
You're assuming Ruud is an idiot and what we see in public is the same info he knows. He of course would know really what's going on and even if Ruben didn't speak to him till now, he is not stupid and can see the writing
The message for him was good and he in a way made it difficult to be kept. Essentially saying he is waiting to take over isn't great for a boss to hear
Sad to see him go but you have to respect the new manager wanting to do it his way
I’ve got no worries about Ruud I think he will land a decent managers job before long. Who knows he could be a future United manager.
I’ve got no worries about Ruud I think he will land a decent managers job before long. Who knows he could be a future United manager.
Sad to see him go but it was always going to be Amorim’s decision and that’s the way it should be. Ruud’s done an excellent job as interim, I’m sure he won’t be short of job offers off the back of this.
It’s not a mess and Ruud will understand that this is what happens in football. Some of you lot built it up in your own heads that Ruud will be super important going forward. The reality is that he has very little coaching experience. However he has handled himself very well so I hope that helps open some doors for him to go off and get that experience that will perhaps bring him back some day
Thank you Ruud. Legend.
Thank you Ruud. Legend.