There are ways to conduct your business as a club and in no way has Ruud been treated in a fair way. Sold a project and dumped within months. There are ways to have been able to keep Ruud. The club runs the club.
Ruud van Nistelrooy | Leaves United
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Don’t jump to conclusions. Him staying on was the romantic solution having steadied the ship so to speak.
It was said that Amorim would make the decision when he got here. So long as Ruud wasn’t promised a role, it’s fair for Amorim to make the call. We need to be objective and leave nostalgia out of it.
Of course Ruud will have said he wanted to stay on to the press. He couldn’t exactly say anything else could he, but for all we know, he may well have been told before today the gig would end after the 4 matches.
Makes sense. Would've been awkward and forced to keep someone else around. Amorim has his ideas and his plans. The last regime was a disaster, clean break is the best way to make it feel fresh and different.
Who treated whom badly?
Sad that it happens, but it should be Amorim’s decision. So if he doesn’t feel comfortable with Ruud alone, that is fine and glad that it has been respected.
He hasn't been treated badly. He got an opportunity as interim and was always unlikely to stay with a new head coach coming in. Frankly, I'm relieved because you know as soon as the first poor result happens for Amorim there would be articles talking about Ruud waiting in the wings. It was happening all season for ETH.
Sold a project as part of ETHs group of coaches. The manager got sacked and his coaches have departed.
I’d have liked to see him stay on, but that’s driven by the fact he’s RvN as opposed to knowing how good of a coach he is.
He conducted himself well in the last few weeks and got some good results.
But it’s time to move forward.
I don’t think Ruud would say he’s been treated badly. It’s unfortunate he wasn’t here for longer but Ruud knew what he was signing up for when he joined in the summer.
Its not like he was promised the job on a full time basis and the club went back in that, he got some more experience here as an assistant coach, got to then manager the club he loves, I don’t think Ruud would hold any bitterness whatsoever, good luck to him and maybe we’ll see him back here one day.
He wasn’t treated badly.
All coaches know if a manager gets the boot then it’s not usually that long before they follow him out the door plus he will have a nice severance package.
What did you want the club to do?
Move him upstairs?
Make Ruben keep him on?
As fans we have to stop this sentiment nonsense.
He knows how football works. He would be naive if he didn't think he could be let go in the event that ETH got sacked.
Why did Ruud say he was very happy with how the club has treated him then
Legend. Thanks for the memories.
Nooooooooo
Probably for the best though. Hopefully see him back again in some capacity some day
Probably for the best though. Hopefully see him back again in some capacity some day
RIP Ruud. He can always resurrect himself if current coach makes a balls of it, which is very possible.
He has to say that but very different to earlier interviews if you saw them. He didn't know where he stood. I thought it was obvious that with Ten Hag getting the boot he would too. So why this was not made bloody clear at the start is beyond me. We need people like Ruud who knows what the club is about. And there should have been a way to retain him. Look at Darren Fletcher. Will he be going as well? He seems to have survived multiple managers.
Id take him up front now instewd of Hojlund
Ideal for Ruud really. Remains untainted by association with Erik, a stellar caretaker stint, departs with Godlike status still intact and reputation burnished. Door defo open for a further chapter down the line. Right decision all round.
These 4 games have been great for us and have raised his profile as a head coach in his own right - an absolute win win all round. He leaves an even bigger legend than he was and if he builds on this and goes on to establish himself as a top manager somewhere now, every one of us would welcome him back with open arms at some point in the future.
Amorim moving forwards with his own team is the right call for him, the club and for Ruud's career as well. Sensible decision making all round.
Amorim moving forwards with his own team is the right call for him, the club and for Ruud's career as well. Sensible decision making all round.
Realistically he probably knew when it was confirmed that Amorim was bringing his backroom team with him, whether told or otherwise. Just best not to have made it public while Amorim was concentrating on Sporting and Ruud was concentrating on getting results for United.
At the latest he would likely have known before his father and son saw him manage at Old Trafford yesterday.
Now he's free to go back to management, and those few games will have helped his cause. I wish him all the best.
He absolutely has not been
We win together or we lose together kind of thing. He did his role admirably since coming back but Amorim seems to run a closely knit group and Ruud wouldn't have had the seniority a man of his stature deserves (he has managed a big club before and finished as 2nd, something we can only dream of right now) so it's the best decision all round. He has done his stock no damage over the last few weeks and we could see him back in the PL, as manager, soon.
Sir Alex stripped of ambassadorial duties, De Gea disappears with zero chance to say goodbye, staff axed to cut costs, no room for Ruud. It leaves more than a nasty taste in the mouth. I don't like this part of the evolution although I was excited by the arrival or Amorim.
Remember when Moyes told all the lads with experience of the club and players to take a hike ?
awwww 
No sentiment? The club was built on bloody sentiment.
Moyes was also Scottish. All Scottish managed are terrible.
Because he would. Magnanimous.
Except for Phil Neville
Assuming Fletcher stays then
Loved seeing Ruud on the touchline for us, did very well in his interim role.
All the best and thanks Ruud.
All the best and thanks Ruud.
Well pointless discussion then as you’ve made your mind up despite what the man himself has said.
All Scottish managers are terrible?? Laughable. Sir Alex was err....
Btw this was the right decision. Amorim needs to be allowed to do his thing and he certainly isn’t going to have someone who dreams of managing us I.e taking his job, on his staff.
Love Ruud, he was my favourite player when I started supporting the club, but if he really has aspirations of managing a top club, he needs to start building a CV. He’s nearly 50. Hope this interim role gives his managerial career a much needed boost.
Love Ruud, he was my favourite player when I started supporting the club, but if he really has aspirations of managing a top club, he needs to start building a CV. He’s nearly 50. Hope this interim role gives his managerial career a much needed boost.
Yes exactly
I love RVN, club legend, and it would have been nice to see him stay on, but he’s been a manager at PSV and interim at United, he was never going to stay in a lesser role. Hopefully he goes away and forges himself somewhere and can come back maybe on his own merit.
Fill came with him from Everton ? Had been away for a few years.
I doubt Amorim has anything to do with that - Fletcher isn’t part of the coaching staff is he?
Thank you for everything legend! Hope you get a managerial role elsewhere soon!
Such as what exactly? By forcing your new manager to integrate him into his coaching team against his wishes? Or just keep him on the payroll and have him greet everyone with a smile in the canteen perhaps...
I'm sure he knew the risks given INEOS spent the summer interviewing other candidates before ETH's extension, as a coach your future is only ever really tied to the existing regime and clearly Ten Haag's future was never one that was particularly secure.
End of the day I'm sure he doesn't want to be a coach forever anyway and he's put himself in a strong position for his next managerial role now.