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Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause
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Wow surprised at this, everyone seemed to think he was nailed on to replace pep at city.
Can't say I know too much about him except that he's done a very good job at sporting.
Honestly at this point he could come in and lose the next 20 games, I'm just absolutely buzzing to have someone with an ounce of charisma and who also doesn't have an extremely annoying face.
I'm sure he'll do alright, either way it's exciting and something to look forward to!
Can't say I know too much about him except that he's done a very good job at sporting.
Honestly at this point he could come in and lose the next 20 games, I'm just absolutely buzzing to have someone with an ounce of charisma and who also doesn't have an extremely annoying face.
I'm sure he'll do alright, either way it's exciting and something to look forward to!
Moyes came from a strong league.
Fred was a massively underrated player. I’m not joking when I say that Ten Hag’s tenure started going downhill when he offloaded Fred, in favour of other options. Fred was perfect for the high press system Ten Hag liked to play, and was one of the few players who could cover the ground Ten Hag expected of his midfielders.
Rapid escalation leaves me to believe that they’ve been sounding him out for a while. Perhaps as far back as the summer. Which would make sense.
I think it’s hard to judge our squad compatibility with any coach out there. Players have been given such bizarre instructions for the last 18mos, that it’s difficult to know where and how they really feel most comfortable. I think the next coach coming in is more likely to define the style and approach used moving forwards, than there being much consideration of preserving any past continuity. I think at its core, the squad is good enough and flexible enough to play multiple systems, including 3 or 4 at the back, high press front foot, or mid block possession based. But what is needed is a complete tactical and stylistic reboot.
In terms of recruitment, I think it’ll be a slow evolution under a new manager, not a refit. There are question marks in certain areas of the squad, but generally we recruited well in the summer. Yoro, Ugarte, De Ligt and Zirkzee are all young players with their best years well ahead of them. De Ligt is the oldest and most experienced of that quartet, at only 25. Typically a CBs best years come with experience, in that 25 to 33 age range, with the odd prodigal exception like Varane who was best at 21 to 28.
This is all to say that we have a lot of young and early prime players in this squad, that a new manager will be expected to develop and get the best out of, rather than having to sell half the squad and embark on an ambitious rebuild. Another reason why getting a manager with experience in transforming the form and fortunes of the players he inherits, rather than buying his way to success, is important. We can’t do another ETH, LVG or Mourinho again.
I think the recruitment in the summer shows that. We’ve bought players we expect to develop, over time, to become top tier performers. This is also a squad with Dalot, Mainoo, Amad, Hojlund, and Garnacho, who we would expect to grow into excellent players, and have Rashford, Onana, Martinez, Mazroui, Mount and Fernandes as players in their prime who should be performing at a top level, week in, week out, right now. Add to that the experience of veterans like Maguire, Casemiro and Eriksen, and a top class coach has a well enough balanced squad to not only achieve a respectable top six finish as a bare minimum, but enough quality to strongly challenge for the top four if he can create a unit that is greater than the sum of its parts (the singularly most important objective of a head coach). There is enough young, pre-prime, and early prime talent in this squad, to forge the basis of a title challenging team over the next three years, assuming further sensible recruitment.
It’s just about finding the right man for the job.
The prospect of Amorim makes me slightly nervous, because I think it’s a bit of a risk, but it is also a very exciting possibility. Much more so than the other names bandied about. No, I don’t traditionally go in for three man defensive systems; but I think too much is probably made of that these days. Teams change shape so often throughout matches, depending on whether they are defending, attacking or transitioning, that I think the underlying shape, whether it’s 3 at the back or 4, becomes almost moot. It’s more about how players move between the various phases of play, and the instructions they enact with and without the ball. More often than not it comes down to having heavily drilled, repeatable patterns that are replicable even under extreme stress.
My best guess us with 3 centre halves. Hope this helps.
If he knows what's good for him, he'll pretend he speaks very little English and needs an interpreter. Much better way to deal with our gutter press. Give them as little to say about him as possible.
Hopefully, the next Mourinho and not the next AVB.
Man finally the positivity is back. This gives me huge hope for the club again. I'm more than chuffed
Nobody really knows, until he manages at this level.
What would you suggest as an alternative? To be fair appointing ten hag wasn't necessarily a mistake. Letting him decide on transfers and not sacking him earlier was. Some managers appointed from worse leagues will work out and some won't we just need to realise when something isn't going anywhere and move on efficiently
I have been banging on to anyone that would listen about Amorim for over a year. Check my post history.
This article is behind a paywall for non Athletic subscribers, so will copy and paste some of the stuff that should get you all excited....
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5880077/2024/10/28/manchester-united-manager-next-ruben-amorim/
Speak to those who know Amorim about how he has managed to turn Portuguese football on its head and they all point to one thing: his personality. He has always been charismatic, a natural leader, and someone who team-mates and colleagues wanted to follow.
The first challenge for any new manager in any job is to convince his players that his ideas are right. This is how the manager generates “buy-in” and how, over time, their own ideas become those of the players too. This skill is maybe the most important in management.
Amorim has it in bucketloads.
Also important to him is the ability to give clear and simple instructions that make sense to his players. Some coaches might overcomplicate the game but Amorim would rather give simple instructions that are fully understood than complex instructions that are half-grasped.
“Ruben is a coach that brings everyone together,” says Meneses. “From the players, administration, staff, everyone ‘buys into’ your idea. This is key to creating a winning mindset. He has a very strong personality but, at the same time, it does not fracture the group. With his strong leadership, he manages to unite and aggregate. He is very smart in human relationships and communication. These are Ruben’s strengths as a coach.”
Another source who knows Amorim well says the same: “His superpower is not the 3-4-3, it is communication. With the media, the fans and the players.”
Even now, his players at Sporting watch his press conferences intently to see what he has to say.
After drab Ten Hag, who i always thought struggled to communicate with the players, this is exactly the man we need. Im over the moon!
This article is behind a paywall for non Athletic subscribers, so will copy and paste some of the stuff that should get you all excited....
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5880077/2024/10/28/manchester-united-manager-next-ruben-amorim/
Speak to those who know Amorim about how he has managed to turn Portuguese football on its head and they all point to one thing: his personality. He has always been charismatic, a natural leader, and someone who team-mates and colleagues wanted to follow.
The first challenge for any new manager in any job is to convince his players that his ideas are right. This is how the manager generates “buy-in” and how, over time, their own ideas become those of the players too. This skill is maybe the most important in management.
Amorim has it in bucketloads.
Also important to him is the ability to give clear and simple instructions that make sense to his players. Some coaches might overcomplicate the game but Amorim would rather give simple instructions that are fully understood than complex instructions that are half-grasped.
“Ruben is a coach that brings everyone together,” says Meneses. “From the players, administration, staff, everyone ‘buys into’ your idea. This is key to creating a winning mindset. He has a very strong personality but, at the same time, it does not fracture the group. With his strong leadership, he manages to unite and aggregate. He is very smart in human relationships and communication. These are Ruben’s strengths as a coach.”
Another source who knows Amorim well says the same: “His superpower is not the 3-4-3, it is communication. With the media, the fans and the players.”
Even now, his players at Sporting watch his press conferences intently to see what he has to say.
After drab Ten Hag, who i always thought struggled to communicate with the players, this is exactly the man we need. Im over the moon!
I don't watch much other football, what's his style like?
I know a lot of people on here rate him which excites me (although so did ETH) the big worry is it's a huge step up and will our overpaid wasters just chew him up and spit him out?
I know a lot of people on here rate him which excites me (although so did ETH) the big worry is it's a huge step up and will our overpaid wasters just chew him up and spit him out?
Good point.
That's plenty good enough. Small sample size, but seems more comfortable with the language than ETH.
I'd still wait..... we have no fecking luck as it is.We may as well take the piss while we can before it potentially goes tits up. We don’t get to do that much these days.
https://www.givemesport.com/manchester-united-erik-ten-hag-replacements-old-trafford/
| Ruben Amorim's Managerial Record | |
|---|---|
| Games managed | 244 |
| Win percentage | 71.3% |
| Trophies won | 6 |
Agreed on Fred. A needless transfer that was a harbinger of future stupidity from ETH.
I was excited when we signed Ten hag. Now I’m just reserved and praying this man can take us back to the top.
Pretty cool to have a coach who witnessed Phil Jones scoring an old goal at Old Trafford when he was playing.
He doesn't need to do it himself. The stress of the job will do it for him. One training session with the selfishness of Garnacho and Rashford and it'll start.
Talks for several days? Smart tactic! Sleep deprivation will make him sign that contract.
He might be the next Jose or the next Villas Boas.
The family’s saying the same. They are not happy.
Think Mazraoui or Dalot at RWB would be fine, though I wonder if Mazraoui bodes well in a position where he's less of a "midfielder-back", but I think it could work find. And Dalot at LWB sounds less bad than at LB, too.
With the current squad I think 3CB would be much more stable and less reliant on an unreliable Casemiro. Eriksen needs to run less, Ugarte is allowed a bit more leeway while adapting, Mainoo can allow himself a bit more to be 19 years old. You can also rotate much more in midfield and if Amorim is also not allowed to take off Bruno at least he's less of a liability, even if placed in one of the CM roles.
Yoro and to a lesser degree Lindelof and Evans (and Mazraoui) seem fine at RCB, De Ligt and Maguire in the CCB, Lisandro [[and Shaw]] at LCB should be good, too, with some of the others kind of able to cover there, too. With only Dalot left as a fit full/wingback it's a bit of an issue, though. But 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 leaves much more room to try out more offensive players in those positions instead of Lindelof or Licha. Hopefully for Amorim (if confirmed) he will be able to at least have some of Shaw, Malacia, Yoro available to cover underperformers and injuries. Otherwise I hope his system allows for less reliance on the injured but composed players that ETH was seemingly way too reliant on.
He just needs to have a coherent structure. Guy needs a lot of luck with this crazy job though.
Thats the spirit, knock him down before he is even installed in place
Came from Sporting like Cristiano [and Bruno].
Touted by many as the next Jose Mourinho, Ruben Amorim is finding suitors across the world, with one of them potentially being the higher-ups at INEOS. Having spent much of his playing days at Benfica, he now finds himself at the helm of one of their competitors, Sporting CP.
Since his arrival, the 39-year-old has restored some glory to the Lisbon outfit, playing an exciting brand of football and managing to secure two league titles, a Portuguese Super Cup and two Portuguese League Cups to go along with the one he secured during his time at Braga. A move to Old Trafford would undoubtedly be a step-up, but one he would be confident in making having been among the candidates for the Liverpool job when Jurgen Klopp departed.
https://www.givemesport.com/manchester-united-erik-ten-hag-replacements-old-trafford/
Since his arrival, the 39-year-old has restored some glory to the Lisbon outfit, playing an exciting brand of football and managing to secure two league titles, a Portuguese Super Cup and two Portuguese League Cups to go along with the one he secured during his time at Braga. A move to Old Trafford would undoubtedly be a step-up, but one he would be confident in making having been among the candidates for the Liverpool job when Jurgen Klopp departed.
https://www.givemesport.com/manchester-united-erik-ten-hag-replacements-old-trafford/
Might be perfect, might be awful - but Garnacho has the engine for it too.
Any good tactical videos?
How about you promote one of his assistant's who is most likely to have absorbed a lot of his good traits.
10m euros. So about £8.7m
So, sorry if you did write that already but thoughts on him? Formation, style.....
Good move for Ugarte if he does come in. He's the manager who signed him for Sporting
could be worse mate he could be signing for City
Hopefully for us the outcome will be the same as the never ending Gaitan transfer sagas
He's played a 3back and controlling/possession style with Sporting.
Think anything he brings in will work better than what we are doing currently. Main thing with any formation is supporting the midfield and getting our attackers into more dangerous positions more often.
Really thought he'd never be nuts enough to leave a situation where he's top of the league by miles and doing well in the CL to come to our shitshow mid-season.
Fair play to INEOS if we can get him, would be a hell of a coup.
Fair play to INEOS if we can get him, would be a hell of a coup.
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