Which would explain the ludicrous comments saying he doesn't need to run any more than he does because Messi doesn't run much either.
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Which would explain the ludicrous comments saying he doesn't need to run any more than he does because Messi doesn't run much either.
@AP88 while I agree with most of your post there's something I've been wanting to address about this Pogba WC performances. Everyone has made it out to look like there was a different Pogba at the world cup praising him to the high heavens. I watched every France game in the World Cup and I honestly did not see anything special or different about Pogba's individual WC performances than what he displayed for us in his good games. Not even in the final. He was his usual self, lots of good passes, lost the ball severally, played slightly more defensively and thats it. Only difference is for France he had better more industrious players around him, playing teams weaker than most teams he'll be meeting week in week out in the PL. Even Fellaini looked better for Belgium than with us.
I don't know what it is the press and most of you saw about Pogba in the WC that warranted all the praise but I'm fairly certain he played the exact same way for us many times. The man didn't play 'better' for France, he simply looked better in a team with better players playing in a weaker competition than the PL. I'm certain that when he still looks poor for us this season everybody will point to how amazing he was at the WC which is utter bullshit. I know Jose is definitely not getting the best out of him but he himself really needs to do better as some of his performances have been inexcusable, he needs to sit up. I'm saying this as someone who is is labelled a 'Mourinho hater' hater on here
I don't know what it is the press and most of you saw about Pogba in the WC that warranted all the praise but I'm fairly certain he played the exact same way for us many times. The man didn't play 'better' for France, he simply looked better in a team with better players playing in a weaker competition than the PL. I'm certain that when he still looks poor for us this season everybody will point to how amazing he was at the WC which is utter bullshit. I know Jose is definitely not getting the best out of him but he himself really needs to do better as some of his performances have been inexcusable, he needs to sit up. I'm saying this as someone who is is labelled a 'Mourinho hater' hater on here
Having argued with you about the “mercenary” stuff I’m in 100% agreement with you here. I thought his WC performances were over-hyped at the time and hindsight seems to be making them even more divorced from reality. He had a couple of games up there with some of his better games for United and at least one game no better than some of his average/poor ones.
Having someone like Kante doing the work of two men is a huge boost to any midfielder (look at how difficult Drinkwater is finding life at Chelsea) Plus - as you said - he didn’t come up against anything like the calibre of opposition he’ll face in the biggest games for United. So I’m definitely not buying into the idea that Pogba hit new heights during the World Cup. He seemed to maybe be a little more disciplined but overall didn’t do anything he hasn’t done from time to time at United too.
Pogba has a contract running until 2022. It would be a stupid move to ask more money if he wants to leave.
He won’t ask for more money if he wants to leave but that doesn’t mean he isn’t butt hurt about Sanchez earning more than him.
I think it is obvious that in his own head Pogba is a great success and any failures are attributed to poor systems, managers, limited team mates etc.
I honestly couldn't care if he leaves tomorrow . In fact, if he would share a taxi with Jose to the airport it would save a few pound for their replacements.
Hard to know what to take from this. We never comment on transfer gossip but we've denied all other accusations there. Should we read into the fact they didn't deny he wants to leave, or should we just see it as our typical "no bullshit" stance where we won't even dignify the negative stuff with a response?
Either way, he's going to be with us this season. I just want to know he isn't pushing to leave so I can get behind the guy. I find it hard if I know somebody doesn't want to be here, I'd rather get rid.
I partly agree with you. For France he has players that can maximise what he brings to the table. For example, whenever he was on a counter, Mbappe was almost always available for a pass. Simply put, United don't usually have that kind of an outlet when we play deep against teams.
But on the other hand, Pogba defensive side of the game was very very good in the tournament. He always covered and chased back into the box.
I think he badly needs a role defined for him. People expect goals/assist and great tracking back. That is just not realistically going to happen.
Thing is he must have been doing something right besides disipline if JM came out and praised him after the world cup though and was basically dropping hints of he wanted him to do the same for Utd or to that effect ?
I thought he had a good WC but as you have said Kante helping any player out is a huge plus.
Rakitic and Dembele is a huge upgrade on Pogba, one being the consistent (although less spectacular) elite midfielder PP will never be, and the other is a mercurial right winger who’ll finally add balance and genuine width.
If Alderweireld, Rakitic and Dembele arrive before tomorrow, that closes the gap on City significantly.
If Alderweireld, Rakitic and Dembele arrive before tomorrow, that closes the gap on City significantly.
New hairstyle kept under wraps.
Maybe it's Toby Underweiled.
Holy shit how over dramatic and self important is he?
The media just wanted a new stick to beat Mourinho with so they acted like Deschamps did something revolutionary to make Pogba better. They don't like Mou and he sure as hell doesn't like them.
Broadly speaking I agree with you: For me the best thing about Pogba's performances at Russia 2018 were he didn't ball hog and played in a double pivot with discipline not self-indulgence. I was encouraged by that fact because I hoped he'd come back to Man Utd a more mature player for it.
Sadly these transfer shenanigans maybe indicate that he's not grown up quite as much as I'd hoped.
We keep asking what Mourinho can do to get the best out of Pogba but maybe its Pogba that needs to adjust to Mourinho? Mourinho has ditched his 4-2-3-1 for 4-3-3 to 'unlock' Pogba, bought Matic and Fred to 'unlock' Pogba, what else can he do? Deschamps sure as hell didn't indulge Pogba like this either at the last World Cup or the last Euros. Maybe we need to ask if Pogba's giving enough? As @Pogue Mahone highlighted its awfully coincidental that Pogba started misplacing 10 yard passes when Alexis allegedly replaced him as United's top earner.
If that's not Toby Alderweireld in the car going for his medical why in gods name does Pogba feel to cover himself and use another entrance? Surprised he didn't send his agent to train for him.
It is nba style of transfer and i know it is not possible but if we could get rakitic and dembele it would be perfect move. We would get rakitic, perfect professional who does not pick matches like pogba does and is excellent player plus excellent right winger.
But i can only dream. The fact is that we are now stuck with the player whos head is in another club, has powerful agent so he will leave next summer for sure.
Was one of my favourite players but now... feck him.
But i can only dream. The fact is that we are now stuck with the player whos head is in another club, has powerful agent so he will leave next summer for sure.
Was one of my favourite players but now... feck him.
There's no way of knowing if that's actually Pogba. Treat it as doom mongering bullshit unless it's proven otherwise
Far too much smoke here for this just to be papertalk. Question is why would Pogba wait till now? With less than a week till the transfer deadline to try and instigate this move, no chance of this happening with the time left.
If the transfer window in England carried into the season then maybe I would think there was an ounce of chance of him leaving for Barcelona. However, you cannot expect us to agree to a transfer days before our window to buy players expires because we don’t have anybody on the team that could potentially replace him.
If he has another average season I could see us agreeing to sell him next year but it will take north of £100m to get the deal done, not £45m and two reserve players.
If he has another average season I could see us agreeing to sell him next year but it will take north of £100m to get the deal done, not £45m and two reserve players.
Yeah conveniently ignore the Barcelona papers saying no offer was made and Simon Stone saying he didn't ask for a pay raise. If you want to focus on negative press only by the likes of Daily Mail then I can't stop you.
We all know the type of Raolia so I don't even need to use the words, but Pogba has a 4 year contract remaining and the club have said through several sources that he is not for sale.
He featured on Bailly's insta story and did the media day yesterday. Why should he now cover himself like that? He mostly drives himself too, didn't find anyone looking like that by googling "Pogba's driver" lol.
Bad haircut?I don't understand why he would do this if it was him even?
Any of his previous 15 then? This can't be him surely lol embarrassing if it is
Aint going anywhere. He'll score first game back playing for us and he will kiss the badge and the rest is history.
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Innocent until proven guilty - use this as a baseline for all news.
Which Barca papers? I've seen the Telegraph and the Guardian both stated that you rejected an offer for him as did the reputable journalist Di Marzio.
Starting to think Pogba's not all that bright.
Pogba doesn't drink.
Actually, when you zoom it, it looks more like some fabric covering the seat, not a human covering underneath it.
Unless Pogba is out of shape, and by out of shape, I mean flat and rectangular. Or it's Maguire whose forehead also fits the description.
Unless Pogba is out of shape, and by out of shape, I mean flat and rectangular. Or it's Maguire whose forehead also fits the description.
Shit hair day it is then.
Pogba played REALLY well at the World Cup. Regardless of whether you think he's largely played really well for united, which he has, or not.
But your post loses any credibility when you question Argentina, Belgium and Modric and Rakatic to suit your agenda.
Actually, when you zoom it, it looks more like some fabric covering the seat, not a human covering underneath it.
Unless Pogba is out of shape, and by out of shape, I mean flat and rectangular. Or it's Maguire whose forehead also fits the description.
HAHAHAH this made me laugh. Fantastic.
That was the key. Pogba plays so much better when he simplifies his game. When he is disciplined, his quality shines through in key moments and even as an attacking and creative force he makes genuine significant contributions.
When he's trying to be the creative flair player he overcomplicates everything and is ineffective.
When United signed Pogba, there were a lot of comparisons to Gerrard and while I couldn't see any similarities at the time, there is one glaring similarity that is now apparent. Neither wants to play in their best position.
Gerrard was a far better forward than midfield player, Pogba is a better midfield player than forward but both have convinced themselves that they are top class in positions where they are less effective.
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