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A fantastic world cup??
Are people honesty shitting me here???
He had a very good game against Argentina and a good second half in the final...
Fantastic??? It'll be the best world cup anyone has ever had next week
Once again, it has nothing to do with him doing miracles. It has to do with him putting the effort in, doing the basics. I am not an idiot to blame Pogba for the 3-0 loss, that is completely on Young and De Gea. But, when things aren't going well he plays with so much immaturity, strolls about and tries to play like it is street football. I don't think he has a good overall game in several weeks, probably Crystal Palace was the last one. He has gone back to being ineffective and popping up with one or two moments.
I have a feeling that he does what he does partly because his team mates have let him down so often, but I don't think that is a reason at all to not try for them either. As an attacking midfielder your duty is to work in tandem with your forwards, even if they lose the ball over and over you still try to get it to them, even if they fail to find your runs over and over you still keep on making them. No need to try extremely low percentage plays out of frustration.
Why do posters like this^ patrol the Pogba thread spewing tripe.
The poster you quoted was very correct, Pogba had a great world cup, only fools try to play that down.
Funny thing is Pogba was as good against Australia, Uruguay as he was against Argentina and in fact the Belgium game was his best.
Before you impune someone, know your facts.
Talk all you want about twitter but there is some real prejudice on this forum.
We just got dicked 4-0 on aggregate home and away by Barca. I am not sure what this statement is meant to herald. Not exactly a glowing endorsement of his abilities, considering the so called weak links gave performances to be proud of and positively aided the platform for a midfielder of his ability to shine.
Why do posters like this^ patrol the Pogba thread spewing tripe.
The poster you quoted was very correct, Pogba had a great world cup, only fools try to play that down.
Funny thing is Pogba was as good against Australia, Uruguay as he was against Argentina and in fact the Belgium game was his best.
Before you impune someone, know your facts.
Talk all you want about twitter but there is some real prejudice on this forum.
The lengths some will go to discredit Pogba is amazing but not surprising. Not the EL best player and didn't have a fantastic world cup.
Doesn't run for the badge when his running stats are near the highest of the team.
The agenda is rife.
You seem quite annoyed he doesn't have a song.. I dont remember fan favs like Beckham, Yorke, Rio or schmeichel having songs either. Pogba is mentioned in the 'Oles at the wheel' one we sing at the minute.
John OShea isnt a club legend (He was liability alot of the time) but we have a novelty one for him. Songs just work for some players and dont work for others.
United need to come to the realization that he is an attacking midfielder, not a CDM or box to box. It's no coincidence that he looks his best as a number 10 and looks his worst as a number 6 or 8. We all look at KDB last night and ask the same of Pogba but let's also look at KDB's midfield partners and the overall talent around him. Play Pogba in this City team and you get performances just as good if not better. Put KDB on this United team and see how effective he is with our lack of movement and playing alongside McTominay/Herrera. Our second best midfielder is probably equivalent to City's 3 or 4.
I think we should just play him as a deep-lying playmaker. Partner him up with a proper ball-winner i.e. Kante, Gueye, Allan, etc and allow him to dictate play like he does for France.
Pogba’s performances prove otherwise.Sorry but this is just nonsense from start to finish. Every point is completely wrong.
The stats show that he runs more than anyone in the team. It’s the lack of effort narrartive is lazy, not Pogba.
You do raise an interesting point though. I do think he gets frustrated and tries to bypass certain players or go for the elaborate to try to make something happen at times. And honestly, who can blame him considering how the ball just bounces off our attackers straight back to the opposition most of the time.
It does get tiring debunking these very obvious half truths. Pogba is not lazy, he simply doesn't do the work in specific areas and compensates it in other areas.
It is very obvious to see. If he loses the ball high up the pitch he either throws a strop or makes a rash challenge. On the other hand, if we are on a counter attack in the 90th minute he'll bust a gut to get forward. I think it is clear that Pogba does not enjoy doing the defensive work, but does enjoy the offensive work, this shows in his work rate in different areas of the pitch.
It does get tiring debunking these very obvious half truths. Pogba is not lazy, he simply doesn't do the work in specific areas and compensates it in other areas.
It is very obvious to see. If he loses the ball high up the pitch he either throws a strop or makes a rash challenge. On the other hand, if we are on a counter attack in the 90th minute he'll bust a gut to get forward. I think it is clear that Pogba does not enjoy doing the defensive work, but does enjoy the offensive work, this shows in his work rate in different areas of the pitch.
Yet again I just think many will reach for whatever arguments they possibly can to slate Pogba.
He’s been working his bollocks off this past month. Got frustrated and was totally gassed in the second half against Barca Tuesday. But who can blame him?
I find Pogba very overrated.
Whilst it's true he needs better players around him - he does have multiple gaps in his game for someone who was a world record transfer a few years ago.
Does he need better players for him to be good at taking a shot from distance - an aspect to his game he was supposed to be good at? His passing is decent but not good enough to be the sole distributor. His defensive work for a midfielder is rubbish and he doesn't have the finesse to his game to be played as the Attacking Midfielder either.
Whilst I don't want the lad gone - the guy can't have a team built around him - he simply isn't good enough to deserve such a thing.
That is hardly a reach, countless posters have noticed his willingness to make runs in attack but his unwillingness to track back properly after losing the ball. I don't think it has one iota to do with being gassed, if we are on the attack I can be confident in saying that Pogba will be one of the hardest runners and the opposite when we are being counter attacked.
We are vulnerable to counter attacks when Pogba is on the ball, it happens with a player that takes as many risks as he does while not tracking back. Nothing wrong with being that type of player, but I'm not gonna act like Pogba is the new Roy Keane in terms of getting stuck in.
He’s been doing much more defensive work than attacking the past few weeks unfortunately so yes it is a massive reach.
He’s been doing much more defensive work than attacking the past few weeks unfortunately so yes it is a massive reach.
Okay in order.
What you find and the reality in front of you are two different things.
Players who command a world record fee vs a player who for which a high fee is paid are two different things, the former never occurs for an overrated player(except Denilson).
Plain trolling, if someone can ask that question about a player who has so many long range goals over his career(short one thus far) then check-in to the mental.
Last line from you is simply to be ignored as it conflicts seriously with reality.
Nah you're just ignoring a very obvious flaw to his game that has universally been observed since he arrived here. Rooney lost the ball up front and charged back to put in a tackle Pogba (and Martial) lose it and walk back in self-reflection shaking their heads.
Not a single united fan has failed to witness that and any that say haven't can only be lying (or actually blind)
It’s true, you can see Pogba ambling about defensively and then run through the entire oppositions team a minute later.
Get over it. Pog is our best player.The midfield got absolutely slaughtered by a third tier Everton midfield but hey! he did one or 2 good passes. Can't expect anymore from our best fecking player I guess. Should be content with that. Get the feck in Pog!
