I’d be pleased to hear him praise anyone else in our squad, to be honest. Especially a new signing, like Fred. Has he ever praised another United player like Sanchez did in that interview? If I’m missed some quotes please feel free to quote them and point out the error of my ways again.
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I’d be pleased to hear him praise anyone else in our squad, to be honest. Especially a new signing, like Fred. Has he ever praised another United player like Sanchez did in that interview? If I’m missed some quotes please feel free to quote them and point out the error of my ways again.
So, to recap...
We've heard Barcelona put a bid in for him,
Then we heard how shit the bid was,
Then we have the media saying he has always wanted to leave,
Then we have the media telling us Raiola has been working on this since last year,
Then we have the media telling us Juventus also bid,
Then they tell us this is his preferred destination,
Then they tell us he has told all his teammates he wants to leave
Then they say he's possibly looking for more money and a better contract from us,
Then they say he's not and that this has upset him and he has no problem leaving
So far...
In the space of a few days...
This shits on every single drawn out Transfer saga in history...Could make a movie out of this. "Oscar winner, Paul Pogba" as Lingard dances around him
I fecking hate the football media
We've heard Barcelona put a bid in for him,
Then we heard how shit the bid was,
Then we have the media saying he has always wanted to leave,
Then we have the media telling us Raiola has been working on this since last year,
Then we have the media telling us Juventus also bid,
Then they tell us this is his preferred destination,
Then they tell us he has told all his teammates he wants to leave
Then they say he's possibly looking for more money and a better contract from us,
Then they say he's not and that this has upset him and he has no problem leaving
So far...
In the space of a few days...
This shits on every single drawn out Transfer saga in history...Could make a movie out of this. "Oscar winner, Paul Pogba" as Lingard dances around him
I fecking hate the football media
I don't think Pogba was ever committed here.
He allowed his agent to tout him out to City ffs...
The only double standards here is that the fans stayed onside and yet, gave Rooney shit over a rumoured transfer to City
I missed the praise part ?
I'd be more concerned about the part where he's telling the club who to sign and wondering what his teammates might think, I'm guessing that came into his own mind with the afterthoughts on Fred.....but in any case, for all the talk of Pogba, he hasn't given many interviews at all since he signed for us. Can't remember him ever telling the club who to sign or disrespecting his teammates when he should really be the one stepping up
Do people think his agent kept all the agent fees to himself? Majority of it probably ended up in Pogba’s pocket...was original plan when he left for juventus. So he doesn’t need a big salary from us. Same situation as all these South American players with third party ownerships. It’s a way to route a chunk of the transfer fees to the prayers pocket.
Fecking hell. Really?! This discussion is pointless so. Another poster on ignore. Oh well.
Doubt he’d be bothered.
Now this is indeed interesting.
The Martial debate has been almost entirely shaped by the pro- and anti-Jose debate. The pro-Joses bang on about how Martial is rubbish and has a bad attitude and should be got rid of at the first opportunity. The anti-Joses hold Martial up as the prime example of Jose’s inability to manage and develop young players. My view (which of course is the correct one) is that the truth is somewhere in the middle, but I do think Martial hasn’t been handled well.
The difference with Pogba is that lots of people who are extremely critical of Jose on all sorts of matters are not inclined to blame him for Pogba’s disappointing performances and alleged lack of commitment; the general feeling is that he’s handled Pogba perfectly reasonably. There’s a lot of common ground between the pro- and anti- camps on the subject. Which is why debate has been generally subdued.
Pogba is a good player but I really don't get this 'world class' superstar he's billed to be. I keep on reading how 'amazing' he was at the World Cup but I didn't see anything close to that level. Good, nowhere near 'great'.
He'll probably get a big money move to Madrid or Barca in the next year or so but as a 'galactico' he's woefully short. I think he'll improve though and we don't necessarily get the best out of him but it's like I'm watching a different player at times than others see, especially given that he's in the top 5 transfers of all time.
He'll probably get a big money move to Madrid or Barca in the next year or so but as a 'galactico' he's woefully short. I think he'll improve though and we don't necessarily get the best out of him but it's like I'm watching a different player at times than others see, especially given that he's in the top 5 transfers of all time.
I agree that he's not performed consistently for us but even those performances are better than any of our midfielders. Also, he's fairly young and we know that he's capable of performing at world class level. Having 160 million will mean nothing in market where keepers that no one has heard of cost 71 million. Also, we are struggling to sign players despite having money to spend because everyone has money and no one wants to sell their top players so, I don't see how having extra 160 million solves that issue. Our net spend this summer has been less than 50 million we should still have plenty of money in our coffers.
Mino's gonna Raiola, this is all a lot of noise just to get Pogba on the same terms as Alexis Sanchez, of all the theories I've read and heard it's the one that makes most sense. However, if this season is going south, I can see it being a much more real possibility that he leaves.
Oh yes, all those lessons he can give them, about how to hire a film crew to film his new haircut, about how to be kings of insta, how to do stupit celebrations, how to behave like 5 years old at age of 25, how to fool around with ball in order to entertain the crowd, and show of, and then lose the ball, after we might conciede a goal, how to choose not to put dead parrot on hair while at national team, cause he wants to be focused on football, while not giving a flying kite about same at the club. Those lessons?
Unfortunately I believe he will be worst this season, hey, he is WC winner, after all, and biggest image asset we have, so he can do what he wants, and we will all be fuming in match day threads. Hope not.Hope he transforms his WC performance to PL, and then he can film 2,3 minutes of mini movie about him picking his nose, and he can do it in high resolution and with a steady micro cam, with ultra sonic slow motion, for all I care.
I think, by looking at pictures Andreas is posting, he can give a lesson or five to Poglywood how to be determent to be sucessfull football player at the club he wants to play at, loves and cares about.
Or, maybe, just maybe I'm old fashioned football fan sick of the social media footballers, and miss good old day when players were players, not models or dancers..
Rage, envy, bitterness all rolled into one. You hate player branding? You hate social media? News flash, social media is all about branding. Accept it and move on. There are more nefarious uses of social media that you should concern yourself with (i.e. hate and division). You don't like his hair, you don't like his celebrations. You probably don't like the music he listens to. The point is whether Pogba makes the team better. The stats are irrefutable.
Martial still retains a rabid fanbase from the LVG season when he was regarded as the teenage hero who saved us from pantomime villains LVG and Rooney. He was the only player (on the Utd reddit at least) whom fans demanded to be played every game regardless of form. Pogba is older and came to Utd with a world class reputation and much fanfare, but hasn't been perceived to have carried us through a season. Given the justifiably higher expectations of Pogba, there's also an element of resentment against him for not giving his best for United. So I would say there are other factors at play besides the pro-Jose and anti-Jose perspectives, which no doubt play a large role nonetheless.
To further support your argument though, the pro-Jose camp is much stronger on the Utd reddit, which has interestingly somewhat turned against Martial in recent months.
So out of all the bullshit it's looking like Mino just being a fat greedy cnut trying to get Pogba a bigger wage?
In fairness, I don't think he's done enough for us to warrant an upgrade with 4 years left on his contract. Yea he's a World Champion but what good is that for us? We're not France.
Sanchez's wages are also over inflated but he's proven he COULD be a player worth those figures. Just not for us yet, though.
In fairness, I don't think he's done enough for us to warrant an upgrade with 4 years left on his contract. Yea he's a World Champion but what good is that for us? We're not France.
Sanchez's wages are also over inflated but he's proven he COULD be a player worth those figures. Just not for us yet, though.
He's marketable.
You can't just consider perfomances on the pitch. And his perfomances for France at the biggest tournament in the world affects that marketability.
Huh? You ask, what good is it when it's for France? What good is it when it's for Arsenal, seasons ago playing in a fluid, attacking system? I don't even agree with the premise but that logic is just embarrassing.
Valid point on Arsenal but read my full post. There is a disclaimer straight after that sentence.
It's not like we signed Pogba after the WC final either, so him winning does nothing for us on the pitch.
Raiola was hailed by the muppets when he brought Pogba here, now that he plays his typical game on United, everyone hates him. He's always been a money hungry cnut
And let’s face it: Players who sign with him, at least the top players, are most likely no different. No offense to anyone, but if you could sign with many other agents and choose Raiola, your own greed is certainly one reason behind it. I doubt he’s causing all these problems without Pogba having complained about not being the highest paid player in the club.
Make him captain, build the team around him. He is our best player by far and if Pogba gets his swagger, the team will feel that way too. We desperately need him to perform this season
Pretty much. I just want that Jose realizes he could do something great with Pogba and start building the team around him. I doubt it will happen though
We lose Pogba, it's a v v v poor reflection on Man Utd under Jose Mourinho. The guy came back to the club, and people still question his loyalty, commitment bla, bla, bla even though few players consider such matters nowadays. What is a 'loyal' player in the premiership? I don't even consider that anymore...
He is a star, an absolute star and to even have a debate about whether he should play at Man Utd suggests exactly where we are as a club. We give Fellini a new contract and sell Paul Pogba???? (And I do like Fellani by the way before people start...).
He is a star, an absolute star and to even have a debate about whether he should play at Man Utd suggests exactly where we are as a club. We give Fellini a new contract and sell Paul Pogba???? (And I do like Fellani by the way before people start...).
Im already calling that hes going to be our scapegoat this season.
It seems like we've learned nothing from his performances vs France. He works well when he has pace in front of him to ping balls into. Mbappe, Griezman and Frances full backs gave him something to play too. Even Giroud makes good runs.
Instead he's stuck with Sanchez and Mata who'll stand 2 yards away from him. Lingard makes good runs but sadly lacks the quality when he does get the ball.
Its a shame because hes a great player and IMO he'd suit a team like Barca far better, the attacking talent they have up front would link up with him better. In our team hes asked to be everything to cover up team deficiences and its just impossible.
It seems like we've learned nothing from his performances vs France. He works well when he has pace in front of him to ping balls into. Mbappe, Griezman and Frances full backs gave him something to play too. Even Giroud makes good runs.
Instead he's stuck with Sanchez and Mata who'll stand 2 yards away from him. Lingard makes good runs but sadly lacks the quality when he does get the ball.
Its a shame because hes a great player and IMO he'd suit a team like Barca far better, the attacking talent they have up front would link up with him better. In our team hes asked to be everything to cover up team deficiences and its just impossible.
Mata sure but Sanchez is always on the move. I don't think he'll be a scapegoat.
Anyway he's happy at United, who would have thought eh?
Oh wow, you really don't like him.
Thats good to hear
There's so much noise around the player, I still read some speak of him as if he's unprofessional due to his hair or the fact that he posts on Instagram, but good luck finding one negative thing all of his managers have said about his work ethic or professionalism. He's a good role model, and I hope he kicks on with the confidence of being a world champion behind him. This whole talk of Barcelona is Mino's tactics 101 to get his client on Sanchez terms. As they say, don't hate the player, hate the game. If he has a positive season, he should get a pay rise to settle any other inevitable stories next summer.
Flair player is mostly so moody, especially the good one.
I think in World Cup, he finally found his "forte" in terms of positioning and style. It's up to the manager/coaches if they can give similar platform.
I think in World Cup, he finally found his "forte" in terms of positioning and style. It's up to the manager/coaches if they can give similar platform.
I think if he was a City or Liverpool player there wouldn’t have been talk about the fee, the hair or the lack of professionalism. I think the latter is a myth because as you say there’s not one manager who’ll say a bad thing nor a player and he’s played with World Cup winners (even before he won the World Cup) and highly successful model pros.
The football press are the worst.
I like how you're complaining about footballers using social media, while you yourself use social media.
As long as they're not hurting anyone, I don't know why anyone gives a feck what a player does with his spare time.
No that's not true. If City and Liverpool had broken the world record for a player who flattered to deceive there would be plenty of criticism. Just look at the criticism (a lot of it overstated) he gets from your own fans.
French young players are wankers in general, except Varane. I would stay away from any of them, they won the weakest WC in the history and think they are Maradona or Pele now (same goes for Mbappé Dembele etc etc) let's see how Pogba does in the CL, he will probably be crap as usual.
Remember the week of the city rumors when he went to the away end to pound the badge and gesture to fans not to listen to the papers right after scoring a brace in a comeback derby victory to postpone the title celebrations?
He should've come out with a strongly worded press release refuting everything on his twitter/instagram instead!
At least that would've been enough to satisfy top reds on the internet
Well, not that it's any of your concern or that it makes any difference, I actually go to games.
But hey, if you want to throw some sort of irrelevant shit like that my way, or anyone else's , be my guest. Whatever makes you happy and internally validates your existence pal. Have a great day
Well I'm glad to hear it,your opinion is automatically more valid than that of others now
You deserve a cookie
You deserve a cookie
You mean the same Mbappe that was coming to Madrid along with Neymar? Ah okay.
I also like how everyone but the madridista are wankers. And yeah, getting through Uruguay, Belgium, and Croatia is a joke, anybody could have done it easily.
Like Spain.
Labile!
Paul's going to go beast mode this season. I can feel it.
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