Mourinho: "Luke Shaw a long way behind" | Shaw: "I will fight to the last second"

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Sounds like a bit of classic psychological motivation to light a fire under Shaw's enormous arse.
 
Jose wants warriors. If Luke Shaw isn't willing to be one, Man Utd doesn't need players like that.
 
I ll tend to believe the manager here. If Shaw is not showing commitment, he ll have to move on. Leg break or not, commitment levels can never be compromised. Ability can only take you this far. He is in one of the most prestigious clubs in England. He should be giving it all.
 
Generally not a fan of managers throwing their players under the bus. Doesn't send a good message to the rest of the squad.

On the other hand if he is half-arsing things in training it is a shame and he needs to pull his thumb out of his ass and give it his all.

This is probably much ado over nothing and he'll be back in good shape next season.

Message is shape up or ship out for under performing individuals, what's wrong with that. All United players should have a burning desire to win.
 
Not sure what anybody sees in him to be honest. For a LB, he offers zero attacking threat. But because he's young and English, he must be this world beater in the making? I think he was a terrible buy. A typical Moyes signing.

Bertrand and Rose are both better. To be honest, there's not much difference between him and the likes of Robertson/Cresswell either.

Shaw is cut from the same cloth as the likes of Smalling and Jones. Not good enough for the biggest team in the country. End of.
 
Not sure what anybody sees in him to be honest. For a LB, he offers zero attacking threat. But because he's young and English, he must be this world beater in the making? I think he was a terrible buy. A typical Moyes signing.

Bertrand and Rose are both better. To be honest, there's not much difference between him and the likes of Robertson/Cresswell either.

Shaw is cut from the same cloth as the likes of Smalling and Jones. Not good enough for the biggest team in the country. End of.

Yeah because people really rate English players on this site.
 
Let's not pretend like this has just fallen out of the sky. He's a young player we all wanted to see do well, especially after that injury, but successive managers have taken issue with his attitude and he's been managed accordingly all season. I'm willing to bet this is the last resort of a manager who has tried everything behind closed doors, so I'm not sure it's right to cry "typical Jose, always throwing his players under the bus" this time. He looked like a great player in the making but it does appear we'll be in the market for a left back this summer.
 
Yeah because people really rate English players on this site.
Please... Luke Shaw and the term "world class" has been used in the same sentence too many times on this forum. I bet the term has been used in this thread as well.
 
Hope we get Alex Sandro. I refuse to believe a player that thrived under Pochettino refuses to give his all in training. Jose has made a right mess of this one.
 
Trying to light a fire under his belly.

Probably last resort.

I think Shaw is a goner though. Doesn't seem to have the fight. Don't really blame him I suppose. Injuries change a person.
 
After a quick search no one in this thread has called Luke Shaw World Class.
I lose the bet then. But there have been too many times he has been termed "He was world class in those 8 matches" or "He was the best in the world those 8 matches"
 
I am pretty certain I will not find that as well.

It's so strange. He had the potential to be the best LB in the world, he even played world class in many games before. Now, he looks like a shell of the player he was.

Can only be put down to the leg break.

Ive never been confident of a player becoming world class than Luke Shaw before the leg injury. The potential he has is truly insane and if he recovers physically and mentally, sky is the limit.

I think you're forgetting just how good Shaw was before he joined us. He was the best leftback in the league and we have seen glimpses of they ability since joining us, albeit hampered by injuries.

All from the Luke Shaw thread. I assume that you ll not argue that many of the quotes used the word "Potential" and not talked in absolute terms.
 
And to think Shaw was thought to be the next Bale in terms of moving from the lb position into a winger in time... doesn't look all that likely now.
 
he will flourish elsewhere, likely cant stand jose after the public dressing down early in the season
 
And to think Shaw was thought to be the next Bale in terms of moving from the lb position into a winger in time... doesn't look all that likely now.

I do not think anyone thought that. Shaw never showed that much potential as an attacker.
 
MUFC owe Shaw nothing. We are not a charity.
If Shaw isn't good enough to play for us (or for Spurs), he needs to be shifted to lower level team.



Agreed.
These players should at least get some game time (either on loan or in our reserves).
Shaw has spent 3 important years of his career, basically doing nothing.

Hes spent a significant part of it being injured, and "injured".
 
Not sure what anybody sees in him to be honest. For a LB, he offers zero attacking threat. But because he's young and English, he must be this world beater in the making? I think he was a terrible buy. A typical Moyes signing.

Bertrand and Rose are both better. To be honest, there's not much difference between him and the likes of Robertson/Cresswell either.

Shaw is cut from the same cloth as the likes of Smalling and Jones. Not good enough for the biggest team in the country. End of.

He was probably our best player in the season he got injured and was certainly an attacking threat.

However, I could excuse him any psychological issues this season, but if it is lack of effort as Jose says that's inexcusable.
 
It's a real shame him and Jose don't get on (or that's what it seems like) he did look a good player for a while.

Not sure who else we could bring in, I've heard Kolinasic from the bundesliga is good and also Rodriguez. There are a few candidates. While we on full backs Nelson semedo looks quite the talent.
 
As usual we have fans on here who are constantly looking for a stick to beat Jose with

The lad has had every opportunity. When did he last play well? 2015? Jose made a very accurate point after the WBA game. Top players perform well every week, not hot one week cold the next. If you want to win trophies you can't have such flaky players.

I still haven't written Shaw off but if the lad does fail it will be down to him and him only
 
What does Mourinho mean by that? Is he suggesting Shaw needs to go out on loan?

I also didn't really understand what that meant

I take it to mean that Hart has turned what seemed to be something of a bad situation into one of opportunity, to play in a new league, and experience a different culture, through his determination to get on with the job.

At the same time Guardiola has made himself look like a lemon through his needless rejection of Hart, in favour of that hologram of a goalkeeper, Claudio Bravo, so I imagine that makes Jose smile also.
 
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The way the journo brought the fact he is an England international into the conversation and Jose mentioned Joe Hart. You wonder if a loan had been suggested to Luke and he wouldn't do it and now isn't giving his efforts on the training pitch either. I admire Joe Hart for what he is doing to be honest.
 
The way the journo brought the fact he is an England international into the conversation and Jose mentioned Joe Hart. You wonder if a loan had been suggested to Luke and he wouldn't do it and now isn't giving his efforts on the training pitch either. I admire Joe Hart for what he is doing to be honest.
Me too. Honestly Joe Hart was someone I loved to hate. I used to believe he was insanely average to all the hype he got because English.
But his willingness to go out on loan out of country so that he can keep playing has been very good. Kept his NT position as well.
 
I ll tend to believe the manager here. If Shaw is not showing commitment, he ll have to move on. Leg break or not, commitment levels can never be compromised. Ability can only take you this far. He is in one of the most prestigious clubs in England. He should be giving it all.
A lot of lads get leg breaks and if anything it makes them realise that a footballers career can be cut short at any time. It makes them work harder and be more hungry. Maybe Luke is the feeling sorry for himself type. Keeps bringing up that he broke his leg as an excuse. He has to put the effort in.
 
Maybe he has had countless private talks with Luke but is now resorting to the nuclear option.
I think he will have. All the ones saying this should have been kept private. It likely has up to now and Jose have given up and has now gone public hoping to get a reaction. Think it is too late for Luke.
 
He was probably our best player in the season he got injured and was certainly an attacking threat.

However, I could excuse him any psychological issues this season, but if it is lack of effort as Jose says that's inexcusable.
All 3 games or whatever it was?

Darmian had a similar spell in his first few games. Yet everyone wants him out...
 
Turning the fans against Luke, I see what Jose doing there.
 
Turning the fans against Luke, I see what Jose doing there.

These conspiracy theories are hilarious tbf.

Mine is that Jose is actually a cult leader and Shaw didn't want to sell his soul to Satan as the other players did, hence why he's been shunned.
 
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