Jose told the journos that Shaw is a long way from playing and one of the journos piped up with "But he's an England international?!".
Thats when Jose said "Yeah? Joe Hart is on loan in Italy"
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Thanks, Mourinho is pretty funny
Mourinho: "Luke Shaw a long way behind" | Shaw: "I will fight to the last second"
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Thanks, Mourinho is pretty funny
Goodbye, Luke. 
Don't have any on hand. Just remember him saying this kind of thing when De Bruyne couldn't get in the team and again after he was sold. That he didn't train well or show him the right commitment.
I think it's clear he isn't doing it for a reaction - he just really doesn't rate/like him. He makes his mind up on players very quickly and it's extremely difficult to turn him. Chelsea scout at the time said that Mourinho told him 'He [De Bruyne] doesn't train', to which his response was 'I went to see a training session,' De Visser said. 'Kevin was the best player on the pitch.'
He's not as bad as Darth Vader. I'll give him that.Goodbye, Luke.
He'll join Spurs next season and will turn into one of the best left-backs in the world. Something has seriously gone wrong here at United for him and If he gets the right manager who can put his trust in him then he will flourish
We'll regret selling him If we do....A massive shame
We'll regret selling him If we do....A massive shame
Maybe in 4 years time. But we need to see results now, unfortunately. Mourinho is under pressure to deliver right away.
At the end of the day, we can't provide Shaw with the number of games and time he needs in order to get back to his best. It took Ramsey a long time to come back from his. He even went on two short term loans.
Shaw's own attitude doesn't help if what Mourinho is saying is true. There are warriors in life. Antonio Valencia is one. Maybe Shaw isn't.
Infuriating really, he was nailed on to be the best full back in the country.
Sad as the situation is, Shaw will likely be marginally affected by his horror injury forever. It must be unbelievably hard to go 100% into tackles knowing what happened previously.
We don't have an insight into training but his attitude does seem to have been questioned a lot. If he isn't 100% committed (unfortunate as the reason might be in the case of past injuries) then I back Mourinho. I look at Phil Jones, a man held together by plasters and not a lot else judging by his injury record, and I never doubt he is completely ready to give everything - I don't always get this with Shaw.
We don't have an insight into training but his attitude does seem to have been questioned a lot. If he isn't 100% committed (unfortunate as the reason might be in the case of past injuries) then I back Mourinho. I look at Phil Jones, a man held together by plasters and not a lot else judging by his injury record, and I never doubt he is completely ready to give everything - I don't always get this with Shaw.
Spurs already have a decent leftback and Ben Davies as back-up, so I can't see why they'd bother with Shaw, unless City really come up with an insane offer for Danny Rose.
As for Luke Shaw becoming one of the best leftbacks in the world, it might happen but on the balance of probabilities it won't; his injury simply made it even less likely. There are tons of players who looked promising in their late teens but by 25 seemed just ordinary players.
As for Luke Shaw becoming one of the best leftbacks in the world, it might happen but on the balance of probabilities it won't; his injury simply made it even less likely. There are tons of players who looked promising in their late teens but by 25 seemed just ordinary players.
What a horrific time he's had at United. Always liked him but if he's half arsing it in training then we have to cut our losses.
Another LVG signing goes down the drain.
Another LVG signing goes down the drain.
After Ronaldo, when have we ever sold a player who went on to be one of the best in their position, let alone the best in their position? If Shaw leaves it won't be because Jose hates him or whatever, it'll be because he's not good enough. He's been questioned by LVG and Jose for commitment in the past, there's a pattern emerging with this kid and it's not a good one.
Also before I get hounded about how good or talented he was for Southampton, people need to realise he's regressed, heavily. I hope he can stay and turn it around, but I would also not be arsed if we replaced him with Mendy who is similar age and already twice the player, who can also attack, something Shaw has never been very good at
Also before I get hounded about how good or talented he was for Southampton, people need to realise he's regressed, heavily. I hope he can stay and turn it around, but I would also not be arsed if we replaced him with Mendy who is similar age and already twice the player, who can also attack, something Shaw has never been very good at
Jose murdered him right there
When Darmian and Young are starting at LB, you know how bad you are. He has the talent, but zero fecks given it seems
When Darmian and Young are starting at LB, you know how bad you are. He has the talent, but zero fecks given it seems
Mourinho hasn't had a single good thing to say about a young player. He'll do what he does and go out and buy a bunch of 28 year olds who are ready for him. This whole charade is a prelude to that. I don't particularly think Shaw is dogging it or half assed about his United career.
Developing youth has never been his forte. He doesn't reach them and can't relate to them psychologically. He's good at setting a team out defensively and getting the best attacking players, hoping they'll figure it out.
He's not cut out to patiently teach the game to kids like Shaw, Rashford or Martial like Fergie or Wenger do.
Developing youth has never been his forte. He doesn't reach them and can't relate to them psychologically. He's good at setting a team out defensively and getting the best attacking players, hoping they'll figure it out.
He's not cut out to patiently teach the game to kids like Shaw, Rashford or Martial like Fergie or Wenger do.
I dont really trust Jose on this one. But hey we know where this is going. We will get a new lb in the summer and Sahw is probably done here
And there's me thinking we're just wrapping him in cotton wool and taking all pressure off him. Which was a fair assessment as last time Jose was asked about him he said he was training well and would definitely be here next season! He actually seemed angry at journos for suggesting otherwise at the time.
I'm wondering if Jose is just fed up after the draw at the weekend and is preparing for his summer cull.
I'm wondering if Jose is just fed up after the draw at the weekend and is preparing for his summer cull.
So what Jose wants from Shaw is show the manager that he has high determination to get back into the team by working harder and train harder than anyone else just like how both Mkhy and Martial get their spot back.
So you don't want us to discuss Shaw, in a Shaw performance thread, while he is not playing any games?
I don't think you understood at all what you replied to.
I kind of get the impression that he didn't 100% want to join us in the first place. It's all a bit weird.
He's spoken positively about both Rashford and Martial, this season? He bought Bailly who at 22 is very young for a CB?
Yes Mourinho is just lying about Shaws training level. Wonder how the rest of the squad will respond to this big lie
So after all that stuff about Jose treating Schweini unfairly about what 3 days ago, he comes up with this? Clearly Shaw has done or said something to upset Jose, he's looked fine when he's played.
Even Tuanzebe got compliments from him in pre-season. I can remember that and I'm a bit drunk. I'm sure you can too.
You are somewhat correct. He prefers players who can follow his instructions to a tee. He expects maturity and demands intensity.
Ideally, any great team is largely made up of 24-30 years olds. Players are at their physical peak and have enough life experience by this age.
Chelsea; Hazard (26), Costa (28), Kanté (26), Luiz (29), Azpilicueta (27), Cesc (29)
Barcelona; Messi (29), Suárez (29), Neymar (25), Busquets (28), Piqué (30), Alba (28)
This is the type of age range that Mourinho wants to be working with.
I think the notion that once a player is in his bad books it's too late for redemption is overestimated imo. Mata, Martial, Mkhitryan, Rojo and Carrick were all players who weren't part of the team at one stage this season but who managed to work their way into the first eleven (even if they were/are still playing pretty poorly)
That's why I genuinely believe this is on Shaw. His mentality has come into question by two different managers now and it's hardly as if he's not a Jose type of player because he wanted him at Chelsea
That's why I genuinely believe this is on Shaw. His mentality has come into question by two different managers now and it's hardly as if he's not a Jose type of player because he wanted him at Chelsea
Yet he spent £35m on a 22yo CB and £89m on a 23yo CM. He must be crazy that Mourinho guy, he likes mature players yet he buys young adults. Does he even know what he wants?????
Pogba is just coming into that age range now. He's 24 as of 2 weeks ago. More will demanded from him next season. I bet he's a little disappointed deep down.
Bailly was a strange buy, but he obviously sees a diamond in the rough there, and probably didn't want to risk letting him establish himself at Villarreal this season. City would have been sniffing around him before long. Pep knows the Spanish market, no doubt.
Don't forget that he also signed two very experienced players as well. Pogba has more experience than most 27 year olds.
He said City was interested but he wanted to work with Jose. Toure even spoke to him personally or some shite.
It's a load of bollix
Shaw needs to leave to kick start his career. It ain't going to happen at Utd with JM as manager
Shaw needs to leave to kick start his career. It ain't going to happen at Utd with JM as manager
He also bought Zouma and Varane who were young cbs
Why do you think Mourinho has it in for Shaw? Martial, Bailly and Rashford are getting chances
Because everything is Jose's fault, haven't you gotten the memo yet? Our players being in shit form, no-one in the squad having the composure to finish any chances, World hunger, Diabetes, all the work of Jose.
Lvg that cunning coon also had it out for Shaw as well, maybe he's secretly working with Jose?
Did you watch that press conference? Absolutely muredered him. Questioned his commitment. Said Ashley Young was ahead of him.
I have no idea
Martial was also on his shit list not long ago. And I still don't see any improvements in his performances
But he seems to have had fallings out or problems with many players since the start of the season, Bastian, smalling, shaw, martial, carrick and miki
I'm not sure he is overly stable mentally these days
I'm pretty sure it was Zidane who brought him to Real. He had a large hand in the process.
Varane only became a regular in the starting XI after Ancelotti's first season. Pepe and Ramos were very much 1st choice.
It was the more experienced duo of Terry and Cahill that Mourinho opted for during 14/15. He did try to phase Terry out last season though.
His performances were actually much better when he had to work to get in the team, looked hungry and determined, now that's he guaranteed to play he's back to being shite. Keep spouting your nonsense agenda though.
Ok, keep thinking the manager is infallible
Never said that though, good to see your opinions have no feet to stand on though. Your opinion was discounted in one simple statement so you result to pettiness, hilarious
Shaw was playing great under LvG before he got injured. So did Rashford, Martial, even Smalling. Mourinho is a cancer, everyone knows it, yet you guys can't face the truth for obvious reasons.
Relax buddy
You didn't discount anything. Martial played ok earlier in the season then began getting left out over and over again. Then we had the rumours in the press. He got back in and had a couple of ok performances. No better or worse than earlier in the season and now he is well under par.
I don't agree the managers handling of martial has been good at all
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