Martial and Mkhitaryan both had to prove themselves and the latter has even come out and said it was all down to his own attitude. Mourinho wouldn't tolerate someone half-arsing things, if Shaw is first off the training pitch and not putting in the effort of the others then he shouldn't be playing. I find it amazing actually so many on here dismiss this as bullshit by Mourinho and he has some sort of vendetta against Shaw. LVG also questioned Shaw at times.
Mourinho: "Luke Shaw a long way behind" | Shaw: "I will fight to the last second"
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if i had a chance live the life of a professional footballers I would train and fight even if the cut my legs off.
This was one of the things I was most looking forward to when Jose joined us, the ability to kick these players into shape. We aren't Arsenal, this club shouldn't be bending over for players that have done fecking nothing for us. Either get your shit together, earn your stripes and put in the effort and commitment needed to justify playing at this club and to justify your ridiculous salaries, or feck off to a club that's happy to be mediocre, just like you.
It's so refreshing, also for people saying not all players react well to it, if a player doesn't react well to being told to pull his weight and to be desperate to win things, then he doesn't belong at this club.
What I would give to have a whole team of players like Jose's inter that wouldn't accept defeat as a possibility.
Shaw for Bertrand?
The difficulty United have with replacing Shaw is there are few available left-backs who have greater potential than him. Benjamin Mendy of Monaco might be ideal.
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Some rumours about last week that Luke Shaw had been offered back to Southampton in a deal for Ryan Bertrand.
7:52 AM - 3 Apr 2017
The difficulty United have with replacing Shaw is there are few available left-backs who have greater potential than him. Benjamin Mendy of Monaco might be ideal.
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Andrew Kilduff @TuftyMUFCSome rumours about last week that Luke Shaw had been offered back to Southampton in a deal for Ryan Bertrand.
7:52 AM - 3 Apr 2017
Feck sake, I guess the stories that he was a massive belledend were all true then.
Shaw for Bertrand?
The difficulty United have with replacing Shaw is there are few available left-backs who have greater potential than him. Benjamin Mendy of Monaco might be ideal.
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Some rumours about last week that Luke Shaw had been offered back to Southampton in a deal for Ryan Bertrand.
7:52 AM - 3 Apr 2017
If we are to replace him I hope we go for someone that provides width and wants to attack. Mendy would be my choice.
I don't understand what's behind Jose's latest criticism of Shaw. However, coming close to season end and his likely intention to sell the player in the summer, surely this comment decreases the players sell on fee?
We just have a lot ot posters who dislike Jose and some LvG lovees still clinging on.
Imagine fans of any other club questioning their manager coming out to say a player isnt showing it in training. If Shaw can't get over the hurdle of his leg break then he's done here, ship him out on loan
Don't think we could get much for him anyway, doesn't he have only a year left on his contract? Coupled with the fact that he's barely played football, due to being unfit or being injured for the past 3 years and I don't see us getting anything over 15m for him.
He probably places more importance on getting his message out.
The fact that he's barely even made our bench doesn't put us in any sort of position to negotiate much anyway.
1 year play option to extend one more year. Still if manager want player to be sold then it would be foolish to question his attitude in press.
People should remember van Gaal had problems with Shaw too. Clearly there is an attitude or application problem somewhere.
Unlike others I'm not entirely convinced he wants to sell Shaw, not yet anyway. I think what he said is one last chance to get Shaw to react and if he doesn't and things don't change, that's when he will start looking for a new LB.
If it backfires and nothing changes, not like we were gonna get much for Him anyway. His stock has plummeted, he's barely played football since joining us.
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Use the force Luke 
Not even close anymore. After that injury he's been so average.
In a perfect world we would offer Shaw and Rooney + cash to Everton and get lukaku
Might as well kill 2 birds with one stone and get rid of Rooney too.
Yeah even I don't think he will sell Shaw.
Truth is we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. The people who hate Mourinho will jump all over this. While others will be disappointed at how Shaw's time has gone here and might have doubts about his professionalism as it's also been remarked upon by Van Gaal and Hodgson.
I saw many in this forum call 24-year-old Pogba who has been to CL finals, WC finals and who has never had any career ending injury, boy, and he needs more patient, love, more time, so that he can perform to his proper standard.
Yet, I saw many of the same people asking a 21-year-old who just recovered from a career ending injury to man up, train and play like a man. And, he got injured not because he went for a drink at night or he speeds, he got that farking injury while he was playing for this farking club.
Yet, I saw many of the same people asking a 21-year-old who just recovered from a career ending injury to man up, train and play like a man. And, he got injured not because he went for a drink at night or he speeds, he got that farking injury while he was playing for this farking club.
Very salient point. No great or good players can ever blame his manager for a poor performance on the pitch. It's completely on them if they are underperforming.
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Not the first coach to question his working attitude and not being fit, is it?
Hopefully it's a warning shot though.
Hopefully it's a warning shot though.
Because Pogba is and exceptions aside will always be a far superior player to Shaw? Also as a bonus, Pogba hasn't been called a fatass by 3 different managers
I'm sure even given all that and the fact that he has had about 5 good games in 4 years, most fans on here, myself included, would still be content if he stayed with us.
If he's not applying himself though he can feck off, a shit mentality has nothing to do with age
Agreed.
If I was Shaw I'd be angry and fired up to prove him wrong and not look like a bitch in front of everybody. It's not like attitude and intensity in training is hard to change if you want to. And public humiliation would be enough of a push for me. It all depends on him.
Pogba also never had his leg double broken when he was playing for ManUtd at 20.
A seasoned pro like Falcao took 3 seasons to look anything near what he is capable of from his horrific injury and people expect shaw to be anything resembling the high potential youngster we saw at the beginning of last season? The only player to I know to have came back from a horrible injury like that and look as good as he did pre injury was Antonio Valencia.
Arsenal sent that injury prone crock to Bournemouth and has looked like something resembling a footballer this season. The club owes it's self to do the same for shaw, loan him out so that he can get as many games as possible next season.We have to try to get the best out of our £27 mil investment before selling him off. If he shows what he can do he can then come fight it out with our new lb.
Arsenal sent that injury prone crock to Bournemouth and has looked like something resembling a footballer this season. The club owes it's self to do the same for shaw, loan him out so that he can get as many games as possible next season.We have to try to get the best out of our £27 mil investment before selling him off. If he shows what he can do he can then come fight it out with our new lb.
If you read the rest of my post you'd see that people are still happy to give him more time, but if he's not willing to do the bare minimum to be at a club of this stature - which is work your arse off, this isn't the club for him
That's the thing though, you're not and therefore you cannot be 100% of what you'd do. We have this habit of projecting our desires and the things we think we'd do in various situations but without having experienced them. Having so much money and so young, not everything will cope with it in a perfectly responsible way.
Don't think he is doing that at all.
But in the slim chance that he is, nothing wrong with that too. It's simple: if Shaw was reliable enough right now, he'd play. But whether it's effort, attitude or mental issues, there is clearly a problem and they lie with Shaw.
Don't know what Shaw has done to deserve such loyalty or sympathy over the manager either.
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I'm starting to wonder who was more traumatised by the leg break, Shaw or the fans.
Sounds like he got used to not doing much when off with the break to me. A move might kick him up the arse. I expect him to be fairly decent somewhere else.
He's had more than one warning shot from Mou though - this sounds like final chance saloon from Mou to Shaw.
Although you do have to add Mou is quite inconsistent in his comments about shaw as just the other week he was pivotal to Mou's plan next year
He was asked a question and answered it as honestly as possible? Works either as a final ultimatum and if that fails it provides context for his sale.
If he is sold, I doubt interested clubs won't know the real situation as he has barely played in 18 months and there must be reasons for that.
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It's always someone else's fault, be it Moyes, Jose, injuries, transfer fees, the press. Young players can never be criticised. They forget that Shaw is nearly 5 years into his senior career so you would have hoped he had got to grips with commitment part of being a professional.
Some young players have taken 'give youth a chance' and 'patience' as a pass to breeze through the first few years of their careers here by which point they are behind by the time they are 24-25. And the fans let them get away with it.
Nobody's talking about him looking and playing like he did before the injury. The criticism is about his commitment, focus and application in training. This is on Shaw, the club can't do anything for him. He's been given time, support and patience in the last two seasons. If he looks like he's not trying though, it's pointless.
Exactly, the right response would have been for him to not let the injury deter him from yet another wasted season, especially after how he approached his first season here. Plus he has a World Cup next year and Rose being streets ahead of him as motivation.
But nope. Zero response with speaks volumes about his determination.
I have no problem with Mourinho calling out players if they are not putting in the effort, but jesus christ what about the players that are actually playing and stinking up the joint week in week out. I wish he would tear some of the first team to shreds before commenting on a guy who has barely featured all season
Being an English international means nothing.
Aren't you the agenda finder! Seems like you too have an agenda against anyone criticizing Mourinho. Either that or you really like the word
He gets asked about Shaw every week - why he's not playing. It's not like he made a declaration. Just answering the questions.
He has, he basically said our whole attack was useless against West Brom. He's not just picking on Shaw. Also he's disappointed with Shaw because how he is off the pitch, not on it. As he looked decent last time he played.
I'd much rather players who play shite but give everything they have than one who doesn't give a feck anyway. Letting a mentality like that manifest through the squad would be terrible
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