That's like saying Donald Trump is a successful businessman.
Mourinho: "Luke Shaw a long way behind" | Shaw: "I will fight to the last second"
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That's like saying Donald Trump is a successful businessman.
http://www.espnfcasia.com/mancheste...luke-shaw-he-has-to-change-his-football-brain
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/it-was-his-body-with-my-brain-mourinho-in-new-luke-shaw-barb
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...inues-damning-luke-shaw-criticism-body-brain/
Other than the obviousclick-bait misleading titles by the media, there's no problem with Mourinho's latest comments about Luke Shaw. Check the vids to see the press conferences and see how the manager said about him. It's very positive and good criticisms. Funny how media turns it around and make drama about it.
Basically, Mourinho values Shaw, admitting he have a lot of football qualities except one. It's clear Shaw have only one issue, lack of football understandings, which they're still working out in training Shaw. Overall, the manager is happy with Shaw's last performance, but points out this is Manchester United, and the standard to play is very high.
Carry on improving Shaw, be the very best LB of this generation.
If that's what he said about Shaw, I'm not sure that's a positive and good criticism at all. He made it to live media and not just to Shaw. I'm ambivalent about Shaw, but if you think the text you've quoted portrays Mourinho was giving constructive criticism, you probably need a re-think? It's damning criticism made to live media about a player's performance. He doesn't say he is happy with Shaw, he's saying that he can't think for himself and I have to think for him from the sidelines.
I love the last sentence though. "Go on son, become the best of this generation"... "Just grow a football brain in the meantime"... "No rush, but Man Utd can't wait"
I'm just curious - should the players be allowed to criticise the manager and his tactics publicly if he's alowed to constantly shit on them?
http://www.espnfcasia.com/mancheste...luke-shaw-he-has-to-change-his-football-brain
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/it-was-his-body-with-my-brain-mourinho-in-new-luke-shaw-barb
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...inues-damning-luke-shaw-criticism-body-brain/
Other than the obvious
Basically, Mourinho values Shaw, admitting he have a lot of football qualities except one. It's clear Shaw have only one issue, lack of football understandings, which they're still working out in training Shaw. Overall, the manager is happy with Shaw's last performance, but points out this is Manchester United, and the standard to play is very high.
Carry on improving Shaw, be the very best LB of this generation.
Can you show us one of your posts where you criticised Shaw's understanding of football before Mourinho mentioned it last night?
In Jose's defence, he did the same with Martial a few months ago (coaching / encouraging) loudly during the game. But he put too much emphasis on the performance being all down to him. Maybe Jose should coach the front men during the game and get a couple of 5 nil win from it.
Luckily for us he did come on, otherwise we would have lost the game.
I had no issues with JM calling out Shaw publicly on his attitude, and training and all that stuff before the game, and if Shaw did win him round in a meeting before the game, then fair play to him
I just though Mourinho's comments last night, and will look to watch them rather than reading the text were wrong and unecessary, you can phrase that in such a better way than it seems, I thought it was wrong to call him out after the game when he did reasonably well. Something along the lines of "he performed well but still has a lot to learn about football, and that is normal for someone of 21, someone who had a year out of the game with a horrific injury", is so much more positive than the way he hung him out to dry again last night
The first one - fine, I encourage it
the second one, not on in my book
I just though Mourinho's comments last night, and will look to watch them rather than reading the text were wrong and unecessary, you can phrase that in such a better way than it seems, I thought it was wrong to call him out after the game when he did reasonably well. Something along the lines of "he performed well but still has a lot to learn about football, and that is normal for someone of 21, someone who had a year out of the game with a horrific injury", is so much more positive than the way he hung him out to dry again last night
The first one - fine, I encourage it
the second one, not on in my book
Well, he is. It's all relative, but Mark Ogden is clearly a very successful bloke in his profession.
And I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of those journalists. They are criticising an arrogant man by being arrogant themselves. It's not like Mourinho hasn't won something this year already and has a good chance to win another trophy.
How are they being hypocritical? Mourinho is acting like an arse and being called out for it. Phil McNulty quite rightly points out that our home form and quality of football has been shite. What's wrong with that?
Even if that were true (and it isn't) it would not invalidate their criticism.
This whole incident is bizarre in the extreme. Shaw was Mourinho's vicar!? He's said some crazy stuff in his career but this one goes straight into the greatest hits collection.
Well, for one, our football has improved under Mourinho. Quite a lot actually compared to last season. The results or draws aren't good enough, but was it another shocking performance at home? I don't think so.
I am not even a fan of his handling of certain players and his latest episode with Shaw, but when people, who know little about football compared to Mourinho criticise him for being an arrogant twat, which he is, by being arrogant themselves and making petty comments, then I'm going to defend the United manager, who has already won us a trophy this year. Something no other United manager has done in his first season, while having a good chance at another trophy. It's easy to constantly be a critic and it's deserved in this case, I just have a problem with the ABU stuff from pundits and journalists, and there are far better football writers on twitter, who deserve more recognition than those.
I thought the comments were petty and arrogant, like the man they are criticising. I'm not saying the criticism isn't deserved, but I have a problem with how it's delivered. Writing an insightful article about Mourinho's shortcoming at Old Trafford and actually analysing what's happening on the pitch would be a start.
Shaw vows to fight until the last second
Looks like Mourinho may have played a blinder here. Praying the lad kicks on from this.
Saying the right things, now show us on the pitch and make that position yours before the end of the season Luke
It's called man management.
Pogba is the kind of character who reacts to public support, so Mourinho stuck up for him throughout the bad times. Shaw is seemingly the kind of character who needs a public dressing down to fire him up. So that's what he's getting instead.
We don't intimately know the personalities of the players and can only judge the efficacy of Mourinho's approach by its results. Of course, there'll be times when the manager gets it wrong. But his track records suggests that he knows what he's doing and that he's got a sixth sense for how to motivate his squad.
Projecting yourself into Shaw's situation indicates more about your own insecurities than about Mourinho's competence.
I honestly don't know if this will turn Shaw's season around, but the signs look positive at the moment. I'm going to focus on that for the time being.
Pogba is the kind of character who reacts to public support, so Mourinho stuck up for him throughout the bad times. Shaw is seemingly the kind of character who needs a public dressing down to fire him up. So that's what he's getting instead.
We don't intimately know the personalities of the players and can only judge the efficacy of Mourinho's approach by its results. Of course, there'll be times when the manager gets it wrong. But his track records suggests that he knows what he's doing and that he's got a sixth sense for how to motivate his squad.
Projecting yourself into Shaw's situation indicates more about your own insecurities than about Mourinho's competence.
I honestly don't know if this will turn Shaw's season around, but the signs look positive at the moment. I'm going to focus on that for the time being.
The interesting part of what he said was about how a lot of things are going wrong for him at the moment but he seems desperate to turn things around. Hopefully this turns his season around
Where are these quotes from?
Can't find a source for them, assuming they're made up
Can't find a source for them, assuming they're made up
He had to say that though, some PR firm prob put it together. He was hardly going to say José is wrong and he's not happy that some so called fans are calling him fat, unprofessional etc this week
Luke could be diagnosed with Diabetes and some people on here would still try and put the blame on our manager, Christ
Based on what? He's hardly going to come out and dismiss what his manager has said.
No idea if that's real quotes or not but I'm pretty bored of hearing our players saying all the right things in the press and then failing to back it up on the pitch.
It just feels like more a case of self preservation and reputation maintenance than honest words from players who will set things right with their actions.
Maybe these last few years have made me a little cynical but that's how it is these day.
A combination of his performance yesterday and the quotes in question. Do you need any other obvious things explained to you in a condescending manner or have you had your fill for tonight?
Not a fan of this kind of thing. He should show it in training and then on the pitch instead, it's not like him being dropped is a recent thing
I'm sure it's more the fact that he has been bombarded with talk against him from Mourinho recently. Of course he'll have to show it in training but giving some sort of closure to the public/fans is fine.
He easily could have. Lots of players never respond to public criticism, but Shaw has to be fair to him responded well.
Even I've managed to write for the Tel around a dozen times, including a feature flagged on the front page
Are you bigging yourself up or saying Ogden isn't all that?Even I've managed to write for the Tel around a dozen times, including a feature flagged on the front page
Basically some made up quotes, however if he (shaw) has come out with this then Mou is entitled to manage as he sees fit.
It's man management. We are yet to see if it's GOOD man management.
We haven't yet seen a reaction from Shaw.
And frankly Pogba is still broadly playing like shite.
It's far too early to judge if Mourinho truly knows how to get the best out of these guys. But at least he's trying something.
I remember that game.
And it was great to see that we finally had a manager who wanted his attackers, to attack hard.
Under LVG, our attackers were enouraged to stop, think, think again, then pass backwards/sideways. Jose was, "go forward, attack"!
What things have been going against him? Sounds like he's feeling sorry for himself what with his injury, not getting games and then Jose going public on him. Not entirely convinced by his quotes about wanting to fight either.
Anyway I think we just need to cut him slack now. He's had a dressing down from all corners and he needs space and support to come good.
Hopefully, other young players are relising that no one will be getting a free ride from now on.
Anyway I think we just need to cut him slack now. He's had a dressing down from all corners and he needs space and support to come good.
Hopefully, other young players are relising that no one will be getting a free ride from now on.
Jose being a bully was probably one of the funniest things I've read here in recent times.
Where's all the sensitive snowflakes?
Basically Shaw admitting he's not been on it.
Basically Shaw admitting he's not been on it.
Good post
Perhaps Shaw is very lethargic and laid back and Mourinho wants to get that passion from him.
If Shaw has took his foot off the pedal and thought 'I made it' maybe Mourinho letting him know he'll be out the door is what he needs to snap out of it. That would explain the comments about money and the distractions of being rich young.
He could just say nothing
If he wants more he can just watch a Mourinho press conference.
Manager decides the players' diet, no?
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