Good one!Mourinho: "Luke Shaw a long way behind" | Shaw: "I will fight to the last second"
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Good one!There's just nothing at all to suggest either way if this type of man management has worked.
Let's see him play a few games first eh?
This might be considered sage advice coming from someone who hasn't reached double figures speculating about the very thing he's suddenly advising the rest of the forum and I not to discuss. A young player who has been having a tough time for a long time showed a glimmer of hope a couple of days ago and followed it up with some much needed positivity and you're telling me I can't be tentatively hopeful about it because you misread a post? Have a word with yourself man.
Why should Luke push for a transfer though? Where's he going to go that's a step up from here? He's at a great club to develop, on a good contract and with our finances it's only a matter of time until we're back at the top of the league and competing in the Champions League again.
Luke is absolutely right to put out that generic statement that doesn't raise any questions that could be put to José which would inflame the situation even more. I still have a feeling that Luke may well outlast José here so he's spot on to keep his head down and keep working hard.
They're words directly from Shaw post-match in the mixed zone. They were before Mourinho's post-match interview though.
Nothing wrong with being hopeful. That would have been the obvious route to go down. Using Tuesday to suggest Mourinho has been right all along isn't that.
My comments on Shaw's handling are based on what's happened so far i.e. Shaw having a turd of a season. That's how evidence works.
You saying it looks like Mourinho has played a blinder based on a 15 min cameo is clutching at straws.
Agreed.
Bet for the all positive talk, he ends up not even being on the bench next game.
Hope he is though, if he can get Shaw back in team and playing well for rest of season would be a big help.
Hope he is though, if he can get Shaw back in team and playing well for rest of season would be a big help.
Hahahaha!
Hahahaha!
I hope this is the case. That means his comments are honest and he will fight for a place in the squad than look elsewhere. And not a PR move to keep everyone happy.
Again, you're actively misconstruing what I said to:
a) prop up your embarrassing misreading of my original post
b) push the shaky narrative you've been carefully stitching together in this thread over the past 48 hours or so
You keep repeating this lie that I saw Shaw's cameo against Everton and suddenly rushed to this thread to laud Mourinho's mind blowing man management skills when you know full well that wasn't the case. And now you want to school me on evidence? It's pretty clear given your recent post history that you believe that Jose is the key overriding factor behind Shaw's "turd of a season" which wilfully ignores mountains of evidence to the contrary. Let's take a walk down memory lane:
Nigel Adkins on Luke Shaw
Mauricio Pochettino on Luke Shaw
Louis van Gaal on Luke Shaw
Luke Shaw on the pressure of his price tag (2015)
Jose Mourinho on Luke Shaw:
September 2016 (after our 3-1 defeat to Watford)
November 2016 (before the 3-1 win over Swansea)
January 2017
February 2017
The lack of context probably makes these look worse than they are but there's an undeniable pattern here and it's not a specifically Mourinho-related problem. There's also the small matter of how Shaw's people reacted to Mourinho's "infamous" man management style earlier on this season and how he reacted this week (heartfelt statement acknowledging the criticism and striving to do better). I consider a combination of ALL these factors a reason to be hopeful. Clearly you don't but you also make conscious efforts to misrepresent other people's statements on football forums for shits and giggles so I'm not too fussed about your opinions on anything, bar maybe cognitive dissonance, to be honest. Now feel free to respond if you must, just don't expect another reply from me after this.
Enjoy your work @MrPooni.
Those Adkins and Pochettino quotes were not even criticisms. And it is 2017 seeing a psychologist should not be considered a bad thing.
I like Cantona's kungfu style. Aesthetic but with brute force. Just look like he mean it.
They highlight issues with him though no?
Also Roy Hodgson commented about his fitness. There's clearly problems.
I think part of the problem with Shaw is that, to put it bluntly, he's as thick as two short planks. That's why Jose's comments about it being his brain with Shaw's body came as no surprise to me.
With the Adkins and Pochettino quotes they were saying he needs to learn how to be professional but, those quotes were from his first and second season of first team Football when he was 17 and 18. So they really were not saying he lacks professionalism they were saying he was still learning how to be a professional since he was still a very young player.
Even if that is true Lionel Messi has not read a book in his entire life but, I do not think anyone would question his intelligence on the pitch. Academic intelligence and Football intelligence are not always directly correlated.
Follow Mourinhos career? It's the exact opposite.. when he's had enough he doesn't say much to the press!
I like this, managers need to stamp their authority on the young players. It shouldn't be an easy ride. Younger players were always scared of Fergie and wanted to play for him and the club. It's better to mold your young players to be a important part of a club moving forward.
Shaw must step up and prove he belongs here. It will be best for all parties involved if he does.
Shaw must step up and prove he belongs here. It will be best for all parties involved if he does.
For laughing at something that sounded funny?
You must be a real piece of work.
Again, you're actively misconstruing what I said to:
a) prop up your embarrassing misreading of my original post
b) push the shaky narrative you've been carefully stitching together in this thread over the past 48 hours or so
You keep repeating this lie that I saw Shaw's cameo against Everton and suddenly rushed to this thread to laud Mourinho's mind blowing man management skills when you know full well that wasn't the case. And now you want to school me on evidence? It's pretty clear given your recent post history that you believe that Jose is the key overriding factor behind Shaw's "turd of a season" which wilfully ignores mountains of evidence to the contrary. Let's take a walk down memory lane:
Nigel Adkins on Luke Shaw
Mauricio Pochettino on Luke Shaw
Louis van Gaal on Luke Shaw
Luke Shaw on the pressure of his price tag (2015)
Jose Mourinho on Luke Shaw:
September 2016 (after our 3-1 defeat to Watford)
November 2016 (before the 3-1 win over Swansea)
January 2017
February 2017
The lack of context probably makes these look worse than they are but there's an undeniable pattern here and it's not a specifically Mourinho-related problem. There's also the small matter of how Shaw's people reacted to Mourinho's "infamous" man management style earlier on this season and how he reacted this week (heartfelt statement acknowledging the criticism and striving to do better). I consider a combination of ALL these factors a reason to be hopeful. Clearly you don't but you also make conscious efforts to misrepresent other people's statements on football forums for shits and giggles so I'm not too fussed about your opinions on anything, bar maybe cognitive dissonance, to be honest. Now feel free to respond if you must, just don't expect another reply from me after this.
You've put a lot of effort in there so it's a shame none of it and I mean not a word of it supports your claim of:
Same thing happened with Mkhitaryan though. One good performance vindicated Mourinho's handling for some.
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