Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch

Samid said:
Won't last the season.
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Second this.

He'll probably get the sack this season. This summer's business stinks of the Ed Woodward school of transfers, same as Chelsea with Bohely. I don't think they have an actual plan for the players they've signed other than 'they'll work it out' and signed them only because they were available.

I think the funniest thing overall is that he truly believes he can win the league this season and actually thought he would last season. He's out of touch with reality.
 
No excuses this season Arsenal fans.

Pre season friendly so means nothing but I’m not having this guy in his 5th season being given similar expectations as EtH in his 2nd.
 
AFC NimbleThumb said:
No excuses this season Arsenal fans.

Pre season friendly so means nothing but I’m not having this guy in his 5th season being given similar expectations as EtH in his 2nd.
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the blokes had 5 seasons and nigh on £600 million pounds to spend. Why do I already feel like they could finish europa league and they will call it ‘an ongoing project’ and ‘success’
 
Jezpeza said:
the blokes had 5 seasons and nigh on £600 million pounds to spend. Why do I already feel like they could finish europa league and they will call it ‘an ongoing project’ and ‘success’
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His PR will make sure he gets the protection and more lame excuses will be made.
 
Jezpeza said:
the blokes had 5 seasons and nigh on £600 million pounds to spend. Why do I already feel like they could finish europa league and they will call it ‘an ongoing project’ and ‘success’
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Exactly.

You can see it already, people are hyping us up after 1 year under EtH & multiple hang overs from the previous regime, I don’t remember anyone raising expectations for Arsenal when they had Auba, Pepe & Ozil hanging round. . .
 
Jezpeza said:
the blokes had 5 seasons and nigh on £600 million pounds to spend. Why do I already feel like they could finish europa league and they will call it ‘an ongoing project’ and ‘success’
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They're in phase 3 of the rebuild apparently
 
How do you spend £170m on the midfield and make it worse?
If they keep Partey and play Rice as an 8 it might work but it's gonna be so funny if he sticks with the Havertz experiment
 
Edwards6 said:
They're in phase 3 of the rebuild apparently
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I think everyone is expecting trophies this season, or at least being very competitive. And yes according to Arteta/Edu we are a bit ahead of schedule. Last season's main goal was top 4, but went much better. There's no doubt objective this season is the title and go deep in CL.

If we don't achieve either of those I'm not sure the Kroenkes will sack Arteta. They've backed him so hard and I think they'll still have some patience for him. As long as we at least stay in top 4.
 
Edwards6 said:
How do you spend £170m on the midfield and make it worse?
If they keep Partey and play Rice as an 8 it might work but it's gonna be so funny if he sticks with the Havertz experiment
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It looks like Partey will stay now and Arteta's comments before the game indicate he will play Rice and Partey together this season. He is experimenting obviously, and so far Havertz doesn't look a good fit in midfield. People's initial worries when we heard about this signing are looking spot on right now. Arteta is going to have to work some real magic to make Havertz work as LCM.
 
Hate the guy as much as anyone else on here but the overreaction to a pre-season loss is a bit much. Unless he spectacularly fails to finish in the Top 4, he'll be absolutely fine.
 
wr8_utd said:
Hate the guy as much as anyone else on here but the overreaction to a pre-season loss is a bit much. Unless he spectacularly fails to finish in the Top 4, he'll be absolutely fine.
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Agree. People predicting he'll be sacked this season based on this game is a bit funny.
 
GoonerGirly said:
Agree. People predicting he'll be sacked this season based on this game is a bit funny.
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It's not a bit funny, it's hilarious and if it happens it'll be everything that's wrong with top level football in England
 
GoonerGirly said:
It looks like Partey will stay now and Arteta's comments before the game indicate he will play Rice and Partey together this season. He is experimenting obviously, and so far Havertz doesn't look a good fit in midfield. People's initial worries when we heard about this signing are looking spot on right now. Arteta is going to have to work some real magic to make Havertz work as LCM.
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If Havertz is anymore than an expensive bench warmer I'll be surprised
 
Edwards6 said:
If Havertz is anymore than an expensive bench warmer I'll be surprised
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I agree it's looking like that ATM, though with CL to contend with there will be plenty of playing time for everyone. Looks like we still have to find a proper replacement for Xhaka though.
 
crossy1686 said:
Second this.

He'll probably get the sack this season. This summer's business stinks of the Ed Woodward school of transfers, same as Chelsea with Bohely. I don't think they have an actual plan for the players they've signed other than 'they'll work it out' and signed them only because they were available.

I think the funniest thing overall is that he truly believes he can win the league this season and actually thought he would last season. He's out of touch with reality.
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It's weird because I thought their transfer strategy since Edu came in was buying young middling cost guys with big upsides, which was working for them. Why they are now going on some massive spending spree is beyond me. Especially the Havertz signing, what in the world were they thinking. He's not a striker, he's not a midfielder. He's nowhere near as good as Odegaard, so what was the point?
 
His wannabe Pep act is tiring

Sure, it’s important to build a winning mentality, but want the players to be ‘hurting’ after a bloody pre season game? Nobody can sustain that constant level of emotional intensity and not getting burnt out.
 
Howl said:
It's weird because I thought their transfer strategy since Edu came in was buying young middling cost guys with big upsides, which was working for them. Why they are now going on some massive spending spree is beyond me. Especially the Havertz signing, what in the world were they thinking. He's not a striker, he's not a midfielder. He's nowhere near as good as Odegaard, so what was the point?
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Because the stakes are higher now being back in CL. Arteta built a very good first XI whose lack of depth and experience inevitably cost us the title. He's fattened up the squad and brought in 3 mature and experienced, though still relatively young, players.

I do wonder how Havertz will turn out, his signing (esp for that price) is bemusing. Doesn't seem a proper replacement for Xhaka at all.
 
Timber will prove to be a decent signing, Rice will ve overpriced as we all know but he'll be solid, Havertz will be a total failure. If reports about his wages are true Arsenal just feck up big time.
 
He's going to prove himself to be a great manager in the PL because he has alot of experience as a player and coach and now manager. Will he win the league with Arsenal? I don't think he will but he's definitely improved them massively.
 
wr8_utd said:
Hate the guy as much as anyone else on here but the overreaction to a pre-season loss is a bit much. Unless he spectacularly fails to finish in the Top 4, he'll be absolutely fine.
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I dont think anyone 'hates' him
 
Buying Rice and Havertz for £170m is the sort of batshit crazy thing Woodward and Solskjaer would've done
 
predator said:
He's going to prove himself to be a great manager in the PL because he has alot of experience as a player and coach and now manager. Will he win the league with Arsenal? I don't think he will but he's definitely improved them massively.
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I don't think that's a requirement by the owners. Getting Top 4, I suspect will suffice for the Kroenkes.
 
sglowrider said:
I don't think that's a requirement by the owners. Getting Top 4, I suspect will suffice for the Kroenkes.
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I agree. If he can keep us competitive and in the top 4 for a bit then I think they'll be satisfied enough, considering we've been out of the CL for 7 straight years. We really just can't be out of CL for so long again.

That being said, the Kroenkes have a great recent track record of their teams winning championships, with the Rams and Nuggets. I'm desperate for Arsenal to follow suit and I'm sure the Kroenkes are too.
 
sglowrider said:
LVG's former assistant... Albert Stuivenberg
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He is Arteta's assistant. The question was about Pep's assistant. Funny thing is Guradiola is without an assistant manager right now. Enzo Maresca joined Leicester as their new manager and Rodolfo Borrell became sporting director of some MLS club.
 
PepG said:
He is Arteta's assistant. The question was about Pep's assistant. Funny thing is Guradiola is without an assistant manager right now. Enzo Maresca joined Leicester as their new manager and Rodolfo Borrell became sporting director of some MLS club.
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Sorry. My bad.

I was thinking of Arteta since it was a thread on him.
 
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