Amazing that you could put 20 pundits predictions on display and not one would get it right for the top 4 let alone the top 6. Predictions are fun, but they are not worth a whole lot at the end of the day. I don't see us regressing too far, although I expect Pool to be much closer next season. We will all add players, all the top clubs have some money, some just (much) more than others. I dont expect City to be bumped off their perch next year but who knows. So many variables can make predictions go up in smoke.
Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch
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Amazing that you could put 20 pundits predictions on display and not one would get it right for the top 4 let alone the top 6. Predictions are fun, but they are not worth a whole lot at the end of the day. I don't see us regressing too far, although I expect Pool to be much closer next season. We will all add players, all the top clubs have some money, some just (much) more than others. I dont expect City to be bumped off their perch next year but who knows. So many variables can make predictions go up in smoke.
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I'm the same with Liverpool, with this tweak in formation if they get a couple of midfield arrivals I wouldn't be surprised if they are back to being City's main rivals. It's just so hard to predict though.
I think that's true in general but getting into the mid 80s in points in the PL (where we should land) usually indicates a very good team that can maintain high performances for a multiyear cycle. The exceptions have been clubs whose footballing directors engaged in a lot of self-sabotage, immediately selling off their best players and/or using that good season as an excuse not to invest further in the team.
07-08 Arsenal - Immediately sold Hleb, a year later sold Toure and Adebayor to City, had a negative net transfer spend in aggregate over two years.
08-09 Liverpool - Immediately sold Xabi Alonso, a year later sold Mascherano and hired Roy Hodgson, six months after that had new owners and replaced Fernando Torres with Andy Carroll. What a cluster.
13-14 Liverpool - Immediately sold Suarez, a year later sold Sterling, replaced them with Balotelli and Benteke!
16-17 Spurs - Immediately sold Walker, had a roughly zero net spend over next two years including one summer without bringing in a single new player.
We will see what happens with Saliba but there's no chance of us selling/losing any other key players anytime soon and by all accounts we are looking to spend big this summer to improve the squad. So I don't see us repeating these kinds of mistakes.
Absolute cringe monster.
Nah.. nowhere near
He's up there. All or Nothing is full on cringe and Lego boy plays a big part of that. His little pre-kick off anecdotes alone make me feel sorry for him. So bad.
So funny that picture he drew of the heart and brain, don't know how they take him seriously
Agreed. I was just using his phrase "it's nowhere near.."
Yes they won’t bottle it, once it’s gone.
Forest away and wolves at home. Really should be winning those Lego pep. Though reckon you’ll have Lego egg on your face against forest.
Drop points against Forest and Arsenal will finish with less points than Spurs under Poch who finished on 86 points.
I just don't think they are going to challenge city anytime soon again unless they drastically buy two or three top class player.
I just don't think they are going to challenge city anytime soon again unless they drastically buy two or three top class player.
If that’s what he’s said, it’s actually embarrassing. It just makes him come across as delusional.
Still never praised the opposition, I hate that about him.
With respect, the pts total is contextual to the season. Don’t think that should be focused on at all.
Of course he’s improved them - no doubt. Controversial but I think Ramsdale being a fairly average to good keeper has cost them in the run in. That and lack of squad depth. Saka fell off and no one has stepped up. For all the chest beating earlier in the season it’s mad how they folded at a late stage. Must be a worry with how they bottled this time Inde pressure as well as top 4 from a similar position last season.
The thing is, Arsenal basically threw in the towel in all competitions, except the PL. They focus all their playing resources at getting the best points total they could and weren’t realistically competitive in any other competition. They won’t be able to do that next year, playing reserve XIs in the CL. They’ll have to balance their workload and rotate in the league more, and I think they’ll drop back significantly as a result.
When the pressure finally came on in the league, towards the business end of the season, they folded pretty spectacularly. While I agree they have improved significantly, I don’t think they have improved as much as has been initially suggested. At every juncture where pressure to perform was evident, either in cups with weakened sides, or at the business end of the league season, they were found substantially wanting.
Off the back of this season, they will invest heavily in the summer, perhaps thinking they are ready to take the next step up. But I suspect they will in fact fall back a lot next year, and I would say they’ll have a real fight on their hands to qualify for the top four.
When the pressure finally came on in the league, towards the business end of the season, they folded pretty spectacularly. While I agree they have improved significantly, I don’t think they have improved as much as has been initially suggested. At every juncture where pressure to perform was evident, either in cups with weakened sides, or at the business end of the league season, they were found substantially wanting.
Off the back of this season, they will invest heavily in the summer, perhaps thinking they are ready to take the next step up. But I suspect they will in fact fall back a lot next year, and I would say they’ll have a real fight on their hands to qualify for the top four.
I can say with a reasonable amount of certainty that Arsenal will try to purchase 2 or 3 top class players.
Dont forget there was a stage in the season were United fans were talking themselves into a title race and it lasted about two weeks. This season we probably were the dog who caught the car, we played ourselves into an incredible position but didnt know how to handle the run in. Although the fact we played ourselves into this position is important. At present we are the second best team in England. We are also the youngest and will see plenty of organic growth from Saka, Martinelli, Odegaard ect. We will have a very aggressive window and sign more than 2 top class players.
I can understand people doubting us winning the league next season - but then how would you fancy your own chances against Man City over 38 games? What I find comical is Newcastle, Chelsea, United, Liverpool fans casually dismissing Arsenal next season.
I like how it's already a foregone conclusion that you will sign more than two top class players.
I would expect Arsenal to be comfortably top four again, and maybe be in the mix for the title in the early spring, but again not really come close to winning it. I do agree that you are set up for another strong season with a young quality squad and some good experience this year, but other teams will improve and you will have to deal with the Champions League as well. This season Arsenal has by far the least changes to their starting line-up from game to game, but that will probably have to change next season. It will get more difficult for sure.
I reckon Arteta made an error not trusting the rotation more. I think he will rotate next season and we will be better for it. Also think the CL games will help the players mature. I think next season will actually be easier
I’d agree on the rotation point, but like United there is a significant drop off in quality. Tough dilemma.
Will be interesting to see how Arsenal do next season. There is also the mental hurdle of having gone close but coming up empty handed. Overall, they are in a strong position coming into the transfer window. The strongest players like Saka, Martinelli, Ødegaard, and Saliba Can still grow. Quite a different situation to United and even City in some ways.
The assertion that Arsenal must simply improve next season as they have a young squad that will mature and they’re expected ‘to sign top class players’ is a highly selective and quite honestly laughable argument.
It fails to account for the rigours of competing on all fronts (which, let’s face it, Arsenal have barely had to contend with at all this season). Aside from Premier League football, the most gruelling aspect of their season has been an early Europa League knockout exit at the hands of Sporting. Now, the expectancy for Arsenal is that they can progress far into each competition which could have significant ramifications on their Premier League campaign.
They’ve got an exciting, young squad that could evolve into a genuinely, top quality side but year-on-year progression for individuals is never a foregone conclusion. It’s not a guarantee Saka’s output will improve or he’ll be as decisive for Arsenal as we was this season. That’s the same for Martinelli, Jesus, etc. How many times have we can prodigious, young talent in the past somewhat plateau or not show further improvement after expecting them to kick-on (when they’re already at an already high-level). Football isn’t simply just a continuous upward trajectory for each player and there are loads of mitigating factors at play.
As for the signings, it’s complete conjecture at this point. There’s no guarantee incoming signings will be ‘top-class’ or make a marked improvement to the side. I wonder what these signings would even look like. Can only imagine there would be one/maybe two signings that would displace current XI players. Rice for example or maybe a striker.
The margins are so fine in football. We’ve seen quite a few promising sides over the last decade: Poch’s Spurs (getting over 80 points), maybe United (when they got over 80 points) just fall away in no time. I suspect that won’t be the case with Arsenal but it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if they did fall away (70-odd points or so) next season. However, that might be at the expense of a fairly deep cup run.
It fails to account for the rigours of competing on all fronts (which, let’s face it, Arsenal have barely had to contend with at all this season). Aside from Premier League football, the most gruelling aspect of their season has been an early Europa League knockout exit at the hands of Sporting. Now, the expectancy for Arsenal is that they can progress far into each competition which could have significant ramifications on their Premier League campaign.
They’ve got an exciting, young squad that could evolve into a genuinely, top quality side but year-on-year progression for individuals is never a foregone conclusion. It’s not a guarantee Saka’s output will improve or he’ll be as decisive for Arsenal as we was this season. That’s the same for Martinelli, Jesus, etc. How many times have we can prodigious, young talent in the past somewhat plateau or not show further improvement after expecting them to kick-on (when they’re already at an already high-level). Football isn’t simply just a continuous upward trajectory for each player and there are loads of mitigating factors at play.
As for the signings, it’s complete conjecture at this point. There’s no guarantee incoming signings will be ‘top-class’ or make a marked improvement to the side. I wonder what these signings would even look like. Can only imagine there would be one/maybe two signings that would displace current XI players. Rice for example or maybe a striker.
The margins are so fine in football. We’ve seen quite a few promising sides over the last decade: Poch’s Spurs (getting over 80 points), maybe United (when they got over 80 points) just fall away in no time. I suspect that won’t be the case with Arsenal but it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if they did fall away (70-odd points or so) next season. However, that might be at the expense of a fairly deep cup run.
Thought the general consensus from all most non Arsenal fans I've spoke to was that All or Nothing actually was a bit of a success, most people that were Lego Pep doubters actually came away from it seeing him as more positive.
Wonder how ETH would come across in a documentary, he's not the most enthralling of characters shall we say.
If you read the full transcript, that quote is a bit of a cut and shut job. However, I don't think he's used the bottle word in the correct context, it doesn't really make sense with what he's trying to say
Honestly, I wished I never watched it.
This is so hilarious. How does any professional manager end up drawing that for a bunch of adult players
? If I didn't know better, I would think it was a meme template with the flipover being the blank space - a bit like that meme of Trump holding up a document.“We will not bottle our last 2 games”
After todays defeat, he still believes Arsenal can win the title. He’s banking on a points deduction for City.
Bang average manager, only had a couple of good months in his career. Happy he’s being found out
Awkward
Declared a genius far too soon. They're on the same amount of points as Mourinho's shite United team now. And he didn't even give a feck in the last 3 games.
Neither have we by the look of things!
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Shamelessly quoting myself
Glad this pretender has ended up with the grand total of feck all. One of the most irritating cnuts in the league.