On paper of course. Seemed like to address all the vital part of the starting XI
. Then it turned out pretty shite with hindsightMemphis Depay | Lyon player
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. Then it turned out pretty shite with hindsightGood deal, especially if the reported buy-back stuff is true. We're not exactly gonna miss him too much anyway seeing as he was a non-entity this season. Shame, because he looked so talented before he got here. Definitely the correct decision though.
On a side note, these transfers highlight just how bad we were at selling previously.
On a side note, these transfers highlight just how bad we were at selling previously.
What does anyone think has changed? Does the manager deserve any credit? Or is this just Woodward learning on the job? Does seem a coincidence the way we suddenly start getting better exit deals as soon as a hire Mourinho.
I'll repeat my point (somewhere on this board): under SAF we tried to rid the outcasts as soon as possible and burnt bridge with majority of his outcast. Moyes can't manage for shite. LVG's simply froze players out and made it easy for buying clubs, with him not really a true manager. Mourinho (during his time here) makes the right sound publicly for outgoing players and help keeping their value. This helps our negotiators big time. Perhaps a better relationship with big name agents also helps.
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Started less than 30 games for us in fairness.
Played well at Arsenal at home, PSV away, Brugge, That Danish side, great goal vs Watford. Just off the top of my head. Had a great last minute cross to Fellaini as well in some important European game, can't remember the oppo.
Thanks to Lione, they always sign our rejects (Rafael) now Depay.
Quite like his move. Lyon being one of my favourite clubs, i like to see them get former players of us. Will be quite tough for him though. Lacazette, Fekir and Cornet + Valbuena in reserve in those 3 offensive positions are definitely no pushovers. A lot stronger then comparable clubs in the European top leagues (in statue and finance). If he becomes a starter for them that would definitely be a statement.
I was worried about the set-up at the time. Van Gaal had apparently never been much involved in the transfer market in previous jobs, and had come to us on the back of three years spent managing Holland. Yet we were completely dependent on him to identify our transfer targets since there was nobody among the club's decision makers with any football expertise.
One of the reasons I welcomed Mourinho was confidence he'd know his around European football. With our arrangement we need a manager who can do it all.
Our stance on selling players have improved massively under Mourinho. Maybe Woodward has grew from that naive muppet pleaser we all knew him as. Maybe Mourinho actually has had more of an input into negotiations than we think? His quotes on Schneiderlin and Depay so far have done nothing but help the club so long may it continue.
It feels like we are no longer the mugs of the transfer window.
It feels like we are no longer the mugs of the transfer window.
Yep thanks.
Good luck to him, hope he makes it work for himself and improves whilst he's there. If he finds his PSV form over there the Lyon attacking line up of Memphis-Lacazette-Fekir looks pretty damn good.
Imagine Ed answering tweets like this?
Good luck to him, I don't think it was ever effort that was the problem, just not suiting the league and possibly just not talented enough. Hope we see him back in the premier league one day when he develops more though.
Looked a great player for PSV but he was out of his depth in the Prem.
Lost all his pace and flair seemingly. But its a good thing we have a buyback clause incase he starts ripping it up in France. Hopefully he sees this as a "loan" deal and uses that as motivation to get back here like Morata and Pogba before him.
Lost all his pace and flair seemingly. But its a good thing we have a buyback clause incase he starts ripping it up in France. Hopefully he sees this as a "loan" deal and uses that as motivation to get back here like Morata and Pogba before him.
good deal for us actually. a few million loss but still manage to get a decent fee for a player who's stock has fallen.
manage to insert a buy back clause as well as our past managers had never think or bother to include in any of our past sellings.
manage to insert a buy back clause as well as our past managers had never think or bother to include in any of our past sellings.
Great business by us. Can see him doing well there and maybe get sold again (but not back to the PL, he clearly couldn't cut it in this league). Should maybe have included a sell-on clause.
League was to quick for him,his best came from Europa league .If the buy back clause is inserted in his contract then that's good deal,though I hardly seen club buy back players.Good luck to his future.
Good luck to him.
Sahin, Kagawa, Gotze.
And the world record.
Yeah those Dortmund players,my poor memory.
Morata, Dennis Suarez. Not buy back clause, but still bought back: Pique, Cesc, Alba, Gabi, Illarramendi, Hummels, Reus... to name a few notable one in recent yearsYeah those Dortmund players,my poor memory.
Bloody good deal. Well done to all involved and good luck to him.
If the reported terms of the deal are accurate, then the club has done very well. After all, he's done nothing at all since his arrival to even maintain his market value. Rather, he's done everything - ironically, by doing nothing - to decrease it.
Whether he has a poor work ethic and/or an attitude problem is simply a matter of speculation. Personally, I don't put much stock into those rumours. He clearly takes care of himself physically and seems to be a prideful kid. I'm sure he wants to succeed. He looked good in a weak Dutch league. We've seen that story before. He had a decent World Cup. Again, that's a familiar tale. When it comes right down to it, while he clearly has some talent, he's simply not fast, technical or intelligent enough (from a footballing perspective) to succeed in England. Jose has seen him train virtually daily for months, and clearly neither trusts nor rates him.
Jose will say nice things about him once this deal is officially confirmed, which will likely be sincere. He's still young and has time to improve. Best of luck to him.
Whether he has a poor work ethic and/or an attitude problem is simply a matter of speculation. Personally, I don't put much stock into those rumours. He clearly takes care of himself physically and seems to be a prideful kid. I'm sure he wants to succeed. He looked good in a weak Dutch league. We've seen that story before. He had a decent World Cup. Again, that's a familiar tale. When it comes right down to it, while he clearly has some talent, he's simply not fast, technical or intelligent enough (from a footballing perspective) to succeed in England. Jose has seen him train virtually daily for months, and clearly neither trusts nor rates him.
Jose will say nice things about him once this deal is officially confirmed, which will likely be sincere. He's still young and has time to improve. Best of luck to him.
Also Real has a history of buying back players
http://www.squawka.com/news/buy-bac...layers-that-real-madrid-have-re-signed/638928
Shame about Memphis. He looked good before he came here.
It's possible that our previous manager stifled his ability and now his confidence is shot.
It's possible that our previous manager stifled his ability and now his confidence is shot.
Good riddance. All hype, all flash, no substance.
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A player for the YouTube generation, that's for sure.
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A player for the YouTube generation, that's for sure.
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This is the way to change over a squad.
One of the big mistakes under Moyes and LVG was that we were selling players before we had any replacements. As a result we would end up with just our youth team players at critical points in the season.
Mourinho kept his squad together and just added quality in four players. He ended up freezing out Schweinsteiger, but other than that it has been pretty smooth.
As it has turned out, Rojo and Jones have proved useful, while Schneiderlin and Memphis have moved on. But if you were doing a clear out last summer, then it might have been the other way around.
Mourinho can now focus on strengthening with a few good players in the summer with the space already there in the squad. And the squad can improve without too much change all at once disrupting the process.
One of the big mistakes under Moyes and LVG was that we were selling players before we had any replacements. As a result we would end up with just our youth team players at critical points in the season.
Mourinho kept his squad together and just added quality in four players. He ended up freezing out Schweinsteiger, but other than that it has been pretty smooth.
As it has turned out, Rojo and Jones have proved useful, while Schneiderlin and Memphis have moved on. But if you were doing a clear out last summer, then it might have been the other way around.
Mourinho can now focus on strengthening with a few good players in the summer with the space already there in the squad. And the squad can improve without too much change all at once disrupting the process.
A very good example of a player who had plenty of talent and good physical attributes, but lacked the focus and discipline to mature into a top class player from a low league can crusher.
His biggest weakness are his attitude problems and a low footballing IQ, both of which can sometimes be overcome by age and experience. Very good business by us covering our bases by sneaking in a buy back clause. The transfer fee isn't too shabby either.
Mourinho has done well in terms of selling players. Woody has been here longer and we've been dogshit at getting acceptable fees for our players until Mou came to the rescue.
His biggest weakness are his attitude problems and a low footballing IQ, both of which can sometimes be overcome by age and experience. Very good business by us covering our bases by sneaking in a buy back clause. The transfer fee isn't too shabby either.
Mourinho has done well in terms of selling players. Woody has been here longer and we've been dogshit at getting acceptable fees for our players until Mou came to the rescue.
That game against Brugge he was incredible, didn't really live up to that at all until FC Midtjylland in the Europa where the dots were connected. Hope he rebuilds his career, wasn't to be here but we're moving onward and upward so good luck to him.
I think its a shame. He has lots of talent, but it seems a horrible attitude. He needs to get back to basics, and focus on his football.
Definitely the correct decision from Jose, he has done a very good job shaping this squad.
Definitely the correct decision from Jose, he has done a very good job shaping this squad.
Not sure if serious?
Who do you thinks in charge of our tranfers? Donald Trump? Britney Spears? Mickey Mouse..?
Plus those space in the squad can be filled by youth players if needs arise, but without sacrificing the overall quality of the squad. Not to mention, so far treatment table have been pretty cold this season. The lady nurses must be bored by now.
Not good enough for our 1st team , hope he does well at Lyon.
Another one of LVG crap buys gone.
Another one of LVG crap buys gone.
Teams that bid for players in January are clearly motivated buyers. Also Depay was a high-potential player, and we're lucky that Lyon clearly believe that it can still be reached.
They may well have the last laugh (depending on how the buy-back clause was written). 16-17mil base price for a promising attacking player in Europe is pittance in today's market, a fair gamble. But yeah agree that we'd probably have sold him at half that price a couple of years ago.
They may well have the last laugh (depending on how the buy-back clause was written). 16-17mil base price for a promising attacking player in Europe is pittance in today's market, a fair gamble. But yeah agree that we'd probably have sold him at half that price a couple of years ago.
Always sad when a player doesn't work out. However its good to have a manager who's decisive with the squad.
I doubt it. He played under LVG for Holland and was supposedly very fond of him.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/33631715
LVG gave Memphis a real chance, it was only about half way through the season last year that Memphis started to fade from view and that was because he didn't deliver as a winger, a number 10 or a striker.
Looking forward to his thread getting bumped everyone ten games when he does something good.
Lyon is a great city and Olympique Lyonnais has a terrific footballing tradition, good luck to Memphis
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