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Memphis Depay | Lyon player
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I really like him and im sad to hear that he leaves. He's got amazing potential and i'll be more than happy if he succeed in Lyon. Wish him all the best!
When Memphis arrived at United, my initial impression was that we'd signed an explosive, direct winger with pace, power and an eye for goal, with sky-high confidence to boot.
As time went by and it became clear that the transition from Dutch football was proving more difficult than anticipated, he continued to have moments, glimpses that hinted at his potential, but never really any more than that. First he lost his place in the starting XI. Chances thereafter were sporadic and he found himself unable to make the most of the limited time that he was afforded on the pitch. He was no longer a regular substitute by that stage, only thrown on when the team was either cruising or in dire straits. The most notable contribution he made as a substitute was to win a crucial penalty in a torpid game against Sheffield United in last season's FA Cup run.
It wasn't long until he began to be left out of matchday squads altogether. It was a rarity from this point on to see Memphis named on the bench, let alone make an appearance, and when he did, it was apparent that the swagger of his PSV days was gone. It looked like he wasn't enjoying himself and just playing it safe, as if the numerous setbacks had robbed him of his sense of adventure (Imagine if Pogba were to have a series of bad performances, lost his confidence and resigned himself to morosely passing backwards and sideways from that point onward). There was a feeling of resignation, and you had to feel for him at these times.
It's easy to infer that his failure to make it at United was down to arrogance on his part, from the way he dressed to the cars he drove to the music he preferred, but I think it's the opposite. I think Memphis is a sensitive kid whose confidence took a beating from which he never really recovered. His attitude was never the problem, as Mourinho can testify.
Now he has to go to Lyon and prove himself again, and try to find the form that once made him a target for some of Europe's top clubs.
It hurts to see him go, but I hope he tears it up in France. He's got time on his side and enough talent to carve out a decent career for himself yet, especially if he finds a manager that will stick with him through thick and thin.
Goodbye, Memphis, and good luck.
As time went by and it became clear that the transition from Dutch football was proving more difficult than anticipated, he continued to have moments, glimpses that hinted at his potential, but never really any more than that. First he lost his place in the starting XI. Chances thereafter were sporadic and he found himself unable to make the most of the limited time that he was afforded on the pitch. He was no longer a regular substitute by that stage, only thrown on when the team was either cruising or in dire straits. The most notable contribution he made as a substitute was to win a crucial penalty in a torpid game against Sheffield United in last season's FA Cup run.
It wasn't long until he began to be left out of matchday squads altogether. It was a rarity from this point on to see Memphis named on the bench, let alone make an appearance, and when he did, it was apparent that the swagger of his PSV days was gone. It looked like he wasn't enjoying himself and just playing it safe, as if the numerous setbacks had robbed him of his sense of adventure (Imagine if Pogba were to have a series of bad performances, lost his confidence and resigned himself to morosely passing backwards and sideways from that point onward). There was a feeling of resignation, and you had to feel for him at these times.
It's easy to infer that his failure to make it at United was down to arrogance on his part, from the way he dressed to the cars he drove to the music he preferred, but I think it's the opposite. I think Memphis is a sensitive kid whose confidence took a beating from which he never really recovered. His attitude was never the problem, as Mourinho can testify.
Now he has to go to Lyon and prove himself again, and try to find the form that once made him a target for some of Europe's top clubs.
It hurts to see him go, but I hope he tears it up in France. He's got time on his side and enough talent to carve out a decent career for himself yet, especially if he finds a manager that will stick with him through thick and thin.
Goodbye, Memphis, and good luck.
He really doesn't. I'm not sure why people keep saying this.
Yesh I don't get it either. He's shown nothing to suggest that.
Good luck and all, but I can't see him ever becoming more than an average player.
There's a difference between what you've seen and what he's shown. If you think being the best player and top scorer in the Eredivisie aged 20, scoring and assisting at the World Cup (being one of the most productive youngsters in the tournament with 2 goals and 1 assist just from cameo's), in Europa League as a young winger is showing no potential, than thats on you. It's so easy to claim such things in hindsight after he didnt perform here.
it means feck all, though, really. As a few Dutch posters on here have said, the standard of that league is awful right now. Janssen was top scorer last season!
I didn't say he had 'no' potential, I said he didn't have 'amazing' potential. And I stand by that.
And yes, it IS easy to make claims in hindsight - that is, after you've seen the player in question actually play. Obviously.
I was never impressed by those youtube-vids from his time in Eresdivisie either.
So was Michu of the PL a few years ago, so what? There's always players who succeed elsewhere and players who dont. You talk about the standard of that league and then forgot it was the same PSV who beat United and werent beaten by Atletico, same Ajax's who have beaten United and City, same Feyenoords who have beaten United and Roma in recent years, the relegation fodder are God awful, but the top teams arent half bad and do well in Europe, to be a standout there is a performance, to be a standout at the WC is a performance and to be a standout in the same Euro League where we have struggled in last year and this year is a performance.
Fair enough, Bayern, PSG, Liverpool and United were probably very interested at the time for no reason.
I said it seems because its more of a feeling you get from his general demeanor.
He seems too concerned with the off the pitch aspect of things.
One of the players I never got hyped for, couldn't judge him based off the dutch league.
I wish him luck, but he will never be a great player.
I wish him luck, but he will never be a great player.
Thanks, goodbye and good luck.
I so wanted him to replicate his PSV form as I held the bragging rights over Liverpool supporting friends when we apparently snatched him from under their noses.
And to rub salt in the wounds, they bought Firmino instead.
What's this i hear about a buyback clause?
I so wanted him to replicate his PSV form as I held the bragging rights over Liverpool supporting friends when we apparently snatched him from under their noses.
And to rub salt in the wounds, they bought Firmino instead.
What's this i hear about a buyback clause?
Glad he's going. Not got what it takes between the ears, and was never going to be the dynamic, match winning winger we wanted.
Would have preferred we'd hung on to Nani really, rather than bother with this bloke, which says it all really.
Would have preferred we'd hung on to Nani really, rather than bother with this bloke, which says it all really.
No, they just misjudged his potential. Happens all the time.
Yeah and largely, Suarez aside, they haven't succeeded elsewhere.
Memphis is pretty devoid of the necessary talent to succeed anywhere close to the top level, that's pretty obvious by his performances for us.
People seem to have a tendency to justify young player's not succeeding by saying they have bucketloads of talent but just haven't been able to deliver, and in some cases that's true (Januzaj), Memphis just hasn't succeeded cause he's really not very talented at all.
Just proves how difficult it is to judge a player based on potential alone. It really can be very hit and miss when it comes to a player turning potential as a kid into a sustained top level standard. Which is why it's daft to make assumptions on how a player will do until they actually prove it for a sustained period.
Ah, it's your feelings
Not the best phrasing on my part.
What's your take on him then?
That season at PSV must've been one of the best individual seasons in recent memory. Messi 2012 like
Huge disappointment and waste of talent.
Teams are interested in many players. it means f all. Bayern bought Shaqiri. Liverpool have bought many flops, as have United.
Is there a buy back clause or not finally?
I always knew we would lyon him out.
That article specifically states his attitude to training and on the pitch remained good. He's just not that talented. There's something there but it's probably smart to move on and start getting games. 22 is still very young.
Some of his old quotes are making the rounds on twitter. You get the feeling some people are happy he's failed here - he certainly was confident about himself and I guess that rubs off the wrong way.
I'd have been confident too if I'd ripped a league apart, won POTY, did well at the World Cup, got bought by one of the world's biggest clubs for a huge fee, given their most iconic jersey #, and made the focal point of their entire attack instantly, all at the age of 21.
To be last point, though, what the feck was van Gaal thinking? I remember him literally building the team around Memphis at the start of last season and basically every attack going through him, and usually failing.
I think people are just a bit harsh on him. He is a very one directional player - as such he is very easy to defend against. He always cuts in & shoots. Ever since C. RONALDO that method has become a must learn for most defenders in the PL to play against.
I think we took a punt on him learning more methods of taking on defenders - he didn't do this & neither did he have many games to do it at. Maybe that's why we might be interested in a buy back clause. Simply going back to his PSV level performances won't be good enough even if he wrecks the french League a new one.
I think we took a punt on him learning more methods of taking on defenders - he didn't do this & neither did he have many games to do it at. Maybe that's why we might be interested in a buy back clause. Simply going back to his PSV level performances won't be good enough even if he wrecks the french League a new one.
Once a nothing player, always a nothing player. He won't be missed one bit and I'm delighted we finally got rid of this talentless fraud.
I don't get you - Ronaldo was the exact opposite of predictable/one-directional for us. To say he's the reason defenders in the PL have adjusted to the 'cut inside and shoot' technique is ... strange.
I think he'll be back with a "big" side soon.. Sure, often he was appalling under LvG, but that doesn't really mean anything. He had something, and he's probably lost his way a little now...
Good luck to the boy, and we can enjoy the fun in 18 months time when we activate his £50m buy back clause!
Good luck to the boy, and we can enjoy the fun in 18 months time when we activate his £50m buy back clause!
What I didn't appreciate was the fact the he started the first game of that season. A kid in a new league gets to start the first game of the season at the expense of Young who had been one of our best forwards (yes that's how bad we were) the season before. He needed to earn the start after some successful subs. I don't necessarily like to compare but I thought to myself Fergie would never have done that.
Doubt it. All English sources first said there was, but then French outlets (RMC, l'Equipe) later denied this and some English journos seems to have backtracked since. As far as I know, it’s quite rare to have buy-back clauses inserted, it’s a lose-lose from the buying clubs’ point of view.
If indeed he does have a buy out clause I'd still be hoping he comes good. Nothing wrong in wanting a player to have a u turn at the age of 22
I think it's a good thing that we're selling him and hope we get most of the money back. Unfortunately not to work out for him but I don't see him making it in the Premier league. THe best way for both parties is to let go.
Don’t know why anyone would wish nothing but success to him?
Isn't this done dealio yet?
Not another Pogba comparison.
Very few players we have willingly let go have gone to actually I move.
More often than not the club is proven right.
I bet the Caf will hardly be talking about him in 6 months.
We seem to get this kinds of post ad nauseam with almost every departure.
This is what is known as blind faith.
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