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hobbers said:
Exactly, have you not watched us play with Mount in the team?

When we have the ball he jumps in an opposition defenders pocket and stays there until we've lost possession. His pressing almost never results in him winning the ball at his feet, it's about forcing mistakes.
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Yes, I have, and he absolutely does not hide from the ball. If anything, he is one of our few players who actually moves around the pitch in attempts to open up space for himself and other players by dragging opposition players onto him. Not being a high volume passer of the ball does not mean you hide from the ball.

What difference does that make? You try to use that as a stick to beat him with, but that trait works in his favour. It is about regaining possession, which is exactly what the point of pressing is. Forcing mistakes to win the ball back. Any way, you're wrong, because when he plays, he frequently wins the ball back in his feet by tackling or dispossessing.
 
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It is amazing the polarising opinions on Mount and the amount of posters that just put shit on him when he has not had a sustained period of being injury freee.
I am of the opinion that he will be a very good player for us once he is fully fit and gets a run of games and that is based purely on he was very good at Chelsea and he is still a young player.
When I first saw Antony I was not really impressed and the more I saw of him I thought he was not even Premier League standard and I still stand by that and yet there are some on here that think he may thrive under Ruben and everyone is entitled to their opinion.
For me it is all about the team getting better and I think Mason can contribute to that.
 
If he can stay fit then he'll be one of those who will surprise us I think, he should thrive under Amorim.
 
He’s tailor made for one of the no.10 positions in Amorims system, it’s keeping fit that’s the biggest problem for Mount. If he can finally get over these injuries I think he’ll thrive under the new manager.
 
ShinjiNinja26 said:
He’s tailor made for one of the no.10 positions in Amorims system, it’s keeping fit that’s the biggest problem for Mount. If he can finally get over these injuries I think he’ll thrive under the new manager.
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Will he be, dare I say, not a waste of money?
 
Yes, knew it!! I also love a good comeback story against all odds which is what Mount situation in United was once ten Hag system failed with Bruno being in his position. Even without all the injuries. And it would be funny (and kind of fitting for us), that the transfer which made zero sense at the time, turns out good. Because if Mount wasn't with us and we are now in a transfer window looking for good players to suit new system, he would suddenly look really desirable. Fit and injury free Mount that is.

So yeah, stay fit Mason.
 
Mockney said:
I like the suggestion that before he was simply not trying to stay fit, but now he is. That’ll help.
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Ye I’m not sure anyone would want to get fit and play in that disaster system that ETH cooked up. It’s a coincidence how everyone’s now fit again since Amorim’s come in.
 
I have never understood the hate against Mount. He's not been able to stay fit for a run of games to be judged. Most of the time I see him play, I see a high intensity player who is disciplined. He's the archetype system player with technique and physicality. He will thrive under Amorim, should he be fit.
 
DJ_21 said:
He would say that wouldn’t he. Do you go for someone that does well in training but rubbish in a match or someone that shows what they’re capable of in a match?
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The latter obviously. I’m not sure what you’re arguing here because you’re now leaning against your original point.

You said “all reports are saying Mount has been best in training”. So he will start.

My point was that doesn’t mean one should start as per ETH similar comments about Antony being best in training.
 
Chief123 said:
The latter obviously. I’m not sure what you’re arguing here because you’re now leaning against your original point.

You said “all reports are saying Mount has been best in training”. So he will start.

My point was that doesn’t mean one should start as per ETH similar comments about Antony being best in training.
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Wait I’m not sure what you’re arguing about. You’re backing up my exact first point. You said Antony got rewarded over Amad due to doing well in training. I’m saying Mount will start games due to doing well in training.
 
DJ_21 said:
Wait I’m not sure what you’re arguing about. You’re backing up my exact first point. You said Antony got rewarded over Amad due to doing well in training. I’m saying Mount will start games due to doing well in training.
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Correct. And my point being just because someone looks good in training doesn’t mean they are going to be great in matches as you think Mount will be. Hence, ETH choosing Antony over Amad just because Antony looked good in training despite Amad being our most in form player. You’re endorsing we do the same thing with Mount. Flawed thinking.
 
horsechoker said:
Will he be, dare I say, not a waste of money?
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It all hinges on Mounts ability to stay fit. I don’t think it’s his footballing ability that’s in question when it comes to him being labelled a flop. It’s the financial outlay for the amount of minutes he’s actually been on the pitch that’s the problem. I’ve no doubts that if he can get over the injuries Amorim can get him back to the level we seen him playing at Chelsea under Tuchel.
 
The Red Thinker said:
I have never understood the hate against Mount. He's not been able to stay fit for a run of games to be judged. Most of the time I see him play, I see a high intensity player who is disciplined. He's the archetype system player with technique and physicality. He will thrive under Amorim, should he be fit.
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The hate stemmed more from it being a dumb signing given his cost, contract situation, injury history, and the position he plays on the pitch being shared with our captain who always stays fit.

If he can stay fit, under Amorim he should actually play more as he has 2 #10's. But we'll see.
 
ShinjiNinja26 said:
It all hinges on Mounts ability to stay fit. I don’t think it’s his footballing ability that’s in question when it comes to him being labelled a flop. It’s the financial outlay for the amount of minutes he’s actually been on the pitch that’s the problem. I’ve no doubts that if he can get over the injuries Amorim can get him back to the level we seen him playing at Chelsea under Tuchel.
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I think it's also in large part due to people not seeing how he actually fit into the system under ETH, or not believing that system would actually function with him in it.

But as Amorim's quote above points out, the change to a 3-4-3 changes things in that respect.
 
Chief123 said:
Correct. And my point being just because someone looks good in training doesn’t mean they are going to be great in matches as you think Mount will be. Hence, ETH choosing Antony over Amad just because Antony looked good in training despite Amad being our most in form player. You’re endorsing we do the same thing with Mount. Flawed thinking.
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Argh fair enough mate. Not saying he will do well in matches. I’m just saying he’ll start due to doing well in training.
 
He was quality for Chelsea and won a CL as their player of the years. There is 100% a player in there, and now we are rid of the insanity of Ten Hag, both in terms of his over training and ridiculous tactical set up, we can finally see what he can do.

I still think he will prove to be worth every bit of the fee we paid.
 
The Red Thinker said:
I have never understood the hate against Mount. He's not been able to stay fit for a run of games to be judged. Most of the time I see him play, I see a high intensity player who is disciplined. He's the archetype system player with technique and physicality. He will thrive under Amorim, should he be fit.
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Hate against him is obviously not based on anything more than two facts:
A) it seems like we took the wrong turn when we bough him, money should have been spent for a different type of player
B) he is never fit, so fans are getting angry.

His performances have been sub par but he was deployed in kind of weird role, almost like deliberately moving away from the play. But the fact is, his qualities are widely known - even if he's nowhere near World Class player, his ceiling is very high, certainly high enough for a team aspiring to get back to top 4. There was no role for him to play under Ten Hag "system", let's see how this works under Amorim. I am very optimistic.
 
Bondi77 said:
It is amazing the polarising opinions on Mount and the amount of posters that just put shit on him when he has not had a sustained period of being injury freee.
I am of the opinion that he will be a very good player for us once he is fully fit and gets a run of games and that is based purely on he was very good at Chelsea and he is still a young player.
When I first saw Antony I was not really impressed and the more I saw of him I thought he was not even Premier League standard and I still stand by that and yet there are some on here that think he may thrive under Ruben and everyone is entitled to their opinion.
For me it is all about the team getting better and I think Mason can contribute to that.
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If he can stay injury free then he can absolutely be a big asset for the team. It's no surprise that Amorim is talking him up because Mount has the ability to be a key cog in a system that demands physicality, intensity and tenacity. And imo Mount is our best player in a advanced midfield position as far as athleticism is concerned and he has the running power to both be highly effective out of possession in a coordinated high press and is a real team player when we have the ball which would benefit the whole team rather than what we've seen in the last decade where individualism has shone over a more team oriented dynamic which has been to our detriment as a team. It's no surprise he was a player Tuchel really liked and played his part in their champions league winning run.

Identity, culture, leadership and a winning mentality all stems from the training ground. And if players are only turning up for matchdays and not applying themselves in training then we might win a few games here and there, but over the course of a season it will come back to bite us in the backside. So everything has to start on the training ground and then manifest itself on matchdays.
 
bosnian_red said:
The hate stemmed more from it being a dumb signing given his cost, contract situation, injury history, and the position he plays on the pitch being shared with our captain who always stays fit.

If he can stay fit, under Amorim he should actually play more as he has 2 #10's. But we'll see.
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22/23 Season - Mount Missed 13 games
21/22 Season - Mount Missed 4 games
Barely missed any before that.

Then we bought him. I wouldn't call that a bad injury history at all. So in my opinion the anger is unjustified with regards to buying a player with a par for the course injury history in the league.

As for sharing the position Bruno plays, I thought all top class clubs had readymade subs for all positions. From my limited understanding of football over the last 30 years, I think this is what you call a very good squad signing for a position - when Bruno needs subbing or is injured - is a great buy given his qualities. 50 million quid for an England starting XI level player is by no means horrendous business. The argument that money should have gone elsewhere is understandable, but not something that should be the root cause of so much hate.

I feel for Mason. He never causes problems. Disciplined on and off the pitch. By all accounts a hard worker and good personality. I just think perennially online, Twitter addicted fans have lost all sense of reality.
 
Giggsyking said:
Can we appoint Murtough and Arnold again just to sack them only for this stupid signing. I cant remember a worse signing in the past 15 years. Not only he is mediocre at best, but also not available.
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Take a day off
He had started the season decent if you bothered to watch it until he got injured
 
DJ_21 said:
Ye I’m not sure anyone would want to get fit and play in that disaster system that ETH cooked up. It’s a coincidence how everyone’s now fit again since Amorim’s come in.
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Yes half the squad were feigning injury because ETH was manager :rolleyes:
 
Red00012 said:
Yes half the squad were feigning injury because ETH was manager :rolleyes:
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The likes of Shaw and Malacia have been injured for months and months. Suddenly available. Not saying there faking it. Just saying is it a coincidence that there all back so quick.
 
Red00012 said:
Take a day off
He had started the season decent if you bothered to watch it until he got injured
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Yeah, don't know what the point is in these posts like 'is he injured again yet' and whingeing about his signing in a performance thread on the eve of a game he is fit for, after a week he has by all accounts impressed the new manager
 
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