The De Zerbi comments, wow.
You could literally copy them and paste them after any United match and attribute them to Rashford or Garnacho. We have never heard ETH say that And our players have less goals than him.
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You could literally copy them and paste them after any United match and attribute them to Rashford or Garnacho. We have never heard ETH say that And our players have less goals than him.
It is. Agree to disagree.
2nd top scorer in Ligue 1.
Incredible the way he has come back after such a long time out, ridiculous talent that sums up United’s luck such Fergie retired.
Feels like anything that can go wrong, does.
Incredible the way he has come back after such a long time out, ridiculous talent that sums up United’s luck such Fergie retired.
Feels like anything that can go wrong, does.
Probably the exact type of manager he needs.
I think you're looking for impressive and not unbelievable. He scored enough goals here to make it very believable that he's capable of doing this.
Doesn’t help it that Greenwood scored a good winning goal right on the day we couldn’t hit a barn door against Chelsea.
He is good at hitting all kinds of things.
On a purely footballing term he is a better finisher than Hojlund & a better dribbler than Amad.
I still think our best season post SAF under Ole came because of how balanced Rashford, Martial & Greenwood was.
Anyway, it's time to move on now.
I still think our best season post SAF under Ole came because of how balanced Rashford, Martial & Greenwood was.
Anyway, it's time to move on now.
When I see the way people rave about what a young top talent Garnacho is, it's like they forgot this guy ever played for us.
I'm not convinced he looked better for the first team than Garnacho. Both had great games, both had really poor games. Young players being inconsistent
Why? Just because one is true doesn't mean the other isn't. Wish I could forget he once played for us.
Are you mad?? Greenwood was streets above Garnacho for the first team in terms of dribbling and intensity. Garnacho simply is turning into a one trick pony on the left side and can't do anything on the right.
Yes his character is disgusting but let's not pretend the talent level is comparable.
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So odd to me this need to talk down our best young player at the expense of this piece of garbage.
It isn't odd. It should be. It's now just typical.
'Yeah, I know he threatened his partner with sexual violence and that's wrong and all but GOALS!'
We're supposed to be angrier with Garnacho, now.
I think you're missing the point. Nobody wants Greenwood playing for us.
Unfortunately one thing this thread and the old one has thought me is that this isn't true.
Is it me or are managers in other countries a lot more honest than in England?
I think you're mixing talent and character.
Do I think Greenwood is a wrong-un who should never play for us? Yes.
Do I think purely on talent he dwarfs Garnacho? Yes.
Anyways, hope that clarifies it.
Wasn’t bad luck though, it was bad personal choices made by the individual
Which was obviously serious bad luck for United that their best academy talent in 2 decades ended up making those choices.
That’s where we disagree. I wouldn’t put it down to luck at all. The individual was in control of the situation.
Anyway it’s not important as such other than I think that the player fcuked United at the same time
How is it not bad luck for United?
They don’t control the individual.
The very definition of bad luck is “an unpredictable outcome that is unfortunate”.
Could United predict this? Was the outcome unfortunate for them?
I'm not mixing anything. I just think it's weird that you feel the need to unfavourably compare Garnacho - one of our most talented young players and one that clearly cares - with Greenwood, who did what he did. If you want to drool over Greenwood even though he no longer plays for us then crack on, but dragging Garnacho into it is unnecessary and bizarre.
Without going too far into this subject, people were talking about this couple long before what happened.
Anyway like I said it’s not important.
Comparing a young man united forward to ex young man united forward is weird indeed. Have a nice day.
Considering his behaviour issues long before the evidence came out, not to mention between the couple themselves, then it's fair to say him continuing to be problematic (to say the least) was fairly predictable.
Southgate, for example, spoke about it previously.
You clearly aren't paying attention.
Sad but true.
For a few months, before he was just as subdued as every other attacker. And if you think Garnacho is selfish, have a rewatch of Greenwood for our first team
The revisionism is a bit silly. Greenwood is and was miles ahead of Garnacho. He was greedy though agreed, he was the best finisher at the club.
Maybe my judgement is a bit clouded fair enough. But I feel like people mostly think of his time at youth level and when he first broke into the first team. A bit later in, he had quite a few poor showings, not dissimilar to Garnacho (or even Januzaj if we're going left field)
He's not a better dribbler, faster perhaps.
I would put Mainoo ahead of him.
Yes all young players have dips in form. His highs were far higher than Garnacho and so was his quality.
And that's the way it should be.
Maybe. Just to put some numbers on it, he scored 12 (2 assists) in 52 matches in his last full season. Garnacho last season scored 10 in 50 with 5 assists.
I'm not disputing he showed more promise as a youngster or is likely the bigger talent. But his first team performances weren't all that different for large parts.
Yes the last season which was his worst season at the club and he stuggled for form and had off field issues. Like I said Garnacho has not go anywhere near him
All young players have dips. Stats aside too Greenwood was obviously more talented
Who cares if he scored 15+ goals this season. Lots of Ligue 1 players don't translate that to PL level.
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I think the issue is we say the talent level between those two is vast, people assume it's crapping on Garnacho. For me, it's another testament and perspective to how far we've fallen. Garnacho should be winger number 3 or 4 on our depth chart. Instead, he's being treated as number 1 with almost every attack funneled through him.
Well, that and the fact that people are ( understandably ) too emotional to have an objective conversion about Greenwood purely as a footballer.
And some are too immature and/or ignorant to understand why that is.