Just won another penalty.
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Why he didn’t take the pen for hat trick?
5-1 Marseille. De Zerbi has them off to a flying start. Suspect he'll be on the shortlist if ETH doesn't work out.
I agree with the last part. He'd have been a good attacker to have in the squad if he didnt do what he did.
The goalkeeper dived out of the way. Got his body shape completely wrong. He didnt need to gamble on anything it wasnt a penalty. He just needed to be able to adjust and react if the shot went near post. This is basic goalkeeping and he failed it. The shot was powerful and true but a goalkeeper in the right position has a great chance of saving it
Well he was already on the shortlist.
Yep. If things go wrong, I suspect the shortlist would be De Zerbi, McKenna, or Ruud. But that's probably best for another thread that doesn't yet exist.
United went as far as discussing prospective salary with De Zerbi and Tuchel earlier this summer, so I would guess they'd be close to top of the shortlist if a change is made in the next 12 months.
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So much revisionism regarding Martial and Greenwood in a typical Redcafe fashion. I mean, there are now people claiming Garnacho to be a superior talent than Mason, and some others reducing Martial to a one season wonder.
Mason has been the best talent coming out of our Academy in a long, long time. In terms of talent and application, he is at least at par with the best ever talents from English Football in the last 10 years or so. And, he will definitely show it in Marseille.
Mason has been the best talent coming out of our Academy in a long, long time. In terms of talent and application, he is at least at par with the best ever talents from English Football in the last 10 years or so. And, he will definitely show it in Marseille.
I don't think Tuchel would be given that United met with him, after which both sides decided to not proceed. I suspect it may have been a control issue where Tuchel wanted more comprehensive control over transfers, and the new SJR - DOF flavor of United were obviously not going prepared to do that.
Will be intersting to see if he will be in any England squad in the future.
This isn't me condoning it in any way, the opposite actually, but if he ends up being world class, gets a transfer to a big club, he absolutely will be back in the England set-up in the next few years.
Always incredible hard to compare midfield talents to attacking talents - I’m just of the belief that Greenwood had the highest ceiling from any Carrington graduate in decades.
Not that it matters though, since the issue with him was not about talent.
As previously said, it is what is - just gotta take the licks despite it being somewhat annoying.
And rightfully so if that happens.
Nothing new. We knew he was a fantastic player and will only get better. Marseille will be a stepping stone.
He was worth nothing before the move to Getafe, anything is better than nothing and the more he performs for Maseille, the better our return will be and we're not lumbered with being associated with a person like that. It's a win-win.
Shouldn’t be anywhere near it.
Was he booed much?
I shouldn't be surprised at the amount of posters in here who are clearly brushing what he did under the carpet, but here we are.
Application? The guy is a grade A plant pot! In no way is he any better than Saka, Bellingham, Foden or TAA - talented players who DID have the application to make the most of their talent.
Also, Martial was pretty bloody terrible. I'd say that 'one season wonder' is putting it generously.
He was great in his first season. Then he was okay but a real hinderance attacking down the right because he's average as an actual winger taking players on and finding passes. Still scored some goals but half as good as when he first came into the team and every shot he was taking looked like it was going in. And while he scored goals he didnt make any for others.
Awful shame that he's such a scrote.
If even the staff are taking this off the topic this will be closed fairly quick.
The topic is Mason Greenwood. That's who I was talking about.
All other considerations aside, this is absolutely correct. Based on pure talent, and early application of that talent (before he got derailed) Greenwood is the best talent to come out of our academy since CO92. He has absolutely everything to be a world class player, not least his extreme two footedness. You hear of players being two footed but Greenwood is as good on either foot as he is on the other. That’s an absurdly rare talent and makes him almost unplayable when in top form.
If he had continued trajectory, without throwing it all away, I have no doubt he’d be being talked about as the best player in the premier league by now. He was on the cusp of becoming that good First touch, dribbling, game intelligence, shooting off both feet, pace and acceleration, all top class. And he’s one of the best natural finishers I’ve ever seen at his age. He’s also excellent from dead ball situations.
I think losing two years to doing nothing is highly detrimental to his development, so he’s nowhere near where he should be, but it still wouldn’t surprise me to see him be one of the top five forwards in Europe by the time he is 25. That’s if he has a straightforward career progression from here.
Garnacho is a great talent but in terms of weapons and natural ability, he isn’t even close to Greenwood.
My brother is a Liverpool fan (different Dads), and a former professional player in the PL (although given the state of former player punditry on tv maybe this doesn’t mean much - although he has a PhD), and you would have to pull his fingernails to get him to say anything good about United (he has a huge admiration for SAF and has read all his autobiographies and lectures on leadership) - and he couldn’t contain his excitement for Greenwood ever since he broke through. Saying he was the one player he would take from United and he had the potential to be one of the best players in the world. Garnacho is great, but Mason was/is just different fecking gravy.
Reality
Will score goals because he'll get himself into goalscoring positions and will shoot. Everything else needs work for a wide player
Will score goals because he'll get himself into goalscoring positions and will shoot. Everything else needs work for a wide player
Topic is his performances with Marseille. Nothing else
De zerbi just joined Marseille he isn't going to leave now. We missed that chance after the fa cup final.
Hmm, this doesn't get to become a eulogy to the talents of a rapist without the odd reminder of what he is. He's not some sacred cow, not to me anyway. You have made your feelings clear too, so we won't agree.
But really the longer this exchange goes on between us about his character being up for mentioning suits me.
Seriously ? Are you suggesting De Zerbi wouldn't jump at the chance to manage Man United ?
Our fans really underestimate us sometimes.
Maybe you should leave this thread off so instead of derailing it
Doesn’t matter if it makes sense. It was widely reported by all reliable sources as 50% sell on and even spoken of as we still own 50% of his rights. They paid 26M Euro which is pretty low for a player that by the tone of this thread is the second coming of Messi crossed with Jesus fecking Christ himself. The low price was facilitated by the sell on fee.
No, but thanks for the suggestion. Maybe you should ignore me, our exchange is derailing it much more than my comment.
Ducker in the Telegraph said 50% of profit. The rest are wrong.
Reality
Will score goals because he'll get himself into goalscoring positions and will shoot. Everything else needs work for a wide player
Still lazy as sin when not in possession. No change there then.
Let us talk once the guy has had some seasons with Di Zerbi under his belt.
Fair point, I just don't see how he can be rated so highly until he gets at least a good couple of seasons behind him. The potential is there.
Hope he tears up the league and gets a €60M+ move to a big club. We have a 50% sell-on fee yes? Win-win for all parties at the end of the day.
Have to be honest here... Am not missing him at all