[bosnian_red]

So my son just told me that Rashford only plays well when he has a girlfriend. And he just got a new girlfriend. Any truth to this?

Remember hearing that and people thinking when he got back together with his ex fiancee that he would play well. That happened in the past 2 seasons so.... No.

 

[Stig]

It's amazing what can happen when our players actually run into the opposition's box.

 

[gaffs]

He fits it a lot better than Bruno for one

Disagree. But even if true, that doesn't mean that Rashford is a good fit for the position, just because another player is less of a fit.

 

[Ole's screen]

He’s gonna retire here you lot best come to terms with that already. It’ll save you tons of disappointment and frustration over the next few years.

 

[crossy1686]

I get your point but the manager needs to be the authority and the players are the employers, you might not agree at times what is asked from you but you still need to to your job still. I highly disagree with you that you need to motivate them to actually do their job. Case in point Rangnik...players knew he has no power and most likely he will be gone within a year ,noone took him serious while most of what he complained about was proven right in hindsight.

I find it hard to believe that a collection of highly motivated professionals who have got this far in their careers, further than 99% who try, are not willing to commit towards a common cause of winning games of football and winning trophies and must be dragged there kicking and screaming by a manager.

Everyone wants the same thing and it’s the managers job to facilitate that. If the players feel he’s wasting their time in their relatively short careers, and he’s saying things like “this squad needs open heart surgery, everyone must go”, the players have every right to say “you’re going before I do”.

We are the only club in world football that tell managers they can replace the entire squad before they can be judged. Where’s the accountability?

This isn’t about player power vs a manager, it’s about a manager getting the best out of his players at all times, regardless of who he has available. Fergie was great at this, he would manage the squad expertly, then almost randomly he would sell a player who he didn’t feel was up to it or focused anymore.

What he didn’t do was tell anyone that would listen that everyone needs to go before he can win games. Don’t make it easy for people to turn on you, win games of football and get rid from a position of power, not a position of weakness.

 

[jem]

I find it hard to believe that a collection of highly motivated professionals who have got this far in their careers, further than 99% who try, are not willing to commit towards a common cause of winning games of football and winning trophies and must be dragged there kicking and screaming by a manager.

Everyone wants the same thing and it’s the managers job to facilitate that. If the players feel he’s wasting their time in their relatively short careers, and he’s saying things like “this squad needs open heart surgery, everyone must go”, the players have every right to say “you’re going before I do”.

We are the only club in world football that tell managers they can replace the entire squad before they can be judged. Where’s the accountability?

This isn’t about player power vs a manager, it’s about a manager getting the best out of his players at all times, regardless of who he has available. Fergie was great at this, he would manage the squad expertly, then almost randomly he would sell a player who he didn’t feel was up to it or focused anymore.

What he didn’t do was tell anyone that would listen that everyone needs to go before he can win games. Don’t make it easy for people to turn on you, win games of football and get rid from a position of power, not a position of weakness.

But one big difference is that Rangnick made that comment knowing full well that there was little chance of him continuing as manager the next season, so I don't think he was saying that as a condition for him (Rangnick) winning games. He was simply stating an obvious fact that the team at the time had a lot of problematic players that needed turfing.

 

[crossy1686]

But one big difference is that Rangnick made that comment knowing full well that there was little chance of him continuing as manager the next season, so I don't think he was saying that as a condition for him (Rangnick) winning games. He was simply stating an obvious fact that the team at the time had a lot of problematic players that needed turfing.

And I'm not saying he was wrong. Most of the players he managed have now moved on and had to be, but you can't walk into a job, call everyone shit then expect them to work hard for you. By all means have that chat with management but maybe don't sit in pressers and say it then wonder why you can't win games or blame the players.

 

[RedDevil@84]

It’ll save you tons of disappointment and frustration over the next few years.

Just expect him to be shit all the time. No expectation, no frustration. Any goals or assists can be seen as a welcome surprise.