Mate.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 18
- Goals
- 4
- Assists
- 3
- Yellow cards
- 2
You are creating strawman arguments for us to shadow box against. On top of that you have decided that everyone that disagrees with you are moany and touchy (now, who's being touchy?) cnuts and that you feel the need to blow your own trumpet in that you portray it as you nobly stand up against said mob.
Because Rashy is reading our matchday threads mid-game.We are supposed to be the 12th man but we're trying to be the 12th man for the oppo, the match day thread is a madness...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the reports of Rashford's stupidly excessive wages are near accurate, wouldn't he have earned something like £24m in wages alone, since he signed that 5 year deal.
Shhhhhh....
I would hope not, its a shambles win lose or draw...
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For those struggling with the "12th man" part of my comment......
Don’t think people realize how much of a drain it is to have a top earning senior forward that’s as ineffective as he is. Put so much more pressure on the Garnacho/Amad/young strikers that are all still developing because the star man we are paying almost 300k a week hardly has an impact in most games.
Bring me Kvara next summer.
Bring me Kvara next summer.
I hate the way Rashford is treated by our online fanbase - you'll never catch me ripping in to him like some gleefully do. That said, I still stand by my assessment that we cannot afford to rely on a player who blows as hot and cold as he does. He was so poor yesterday. Looks like he has completely regressed again after building a tiny bit of confidence from some decent performances.
With the new manager coming in, everyone gets a blank slate to prove they can work under his system. With that said he must be on the shortest leash of any player who is realistically competing for a starting place.
With the new manager coming in, everyone gets a blank slate to prove they can work under his system. With that said he must be on the shortest leash of any player who is realistically competing for a starting place.
The more I watch Hojlund the more I think that Rashford will have a field day playing the striker role in this formation. The amount of through balls played in for Gyokores and Paulinho before him are crazy. Rashford will feed on this. We still need a better no 9 but I'm certain Rashford will be the main starter there in no time once Amorim sees his ability to break the lines and run off the ball.
And the message it sends to the young players around the club. £300k on someone who walks around the pitch whose place has never been in question.
Think back to the men who were around when the class of 92 breaking through that weren't of a dissimilar age to Rashford is now. That's what Rashford should be to the likes of Mainoo and Garnacho. Setting an example on and off the field.
Last season he pissed me off due to his lack of application and greed so I could see why the fanbase were so critical of him. This season, I don't think either of those are real issues but he's clearly not the same player he was a few years ago. We never see him doing the things he used to be good at, making runs in behind the defence, getting quick shots off, running at defenders etc. He was always a pretty basic player but he had some really effective weapons in his arsenal. He just doesn't seem capable of providing the same threat now and you can see it in his body language. There's no conviction in anything he does. Unfortunately, he was never well rounded enough as a footballer to adapt his game whilst maintaining his effectiveness. It's a massive shame and I do empathise with him but we have to be ruthless and try and sell him before his value completely depreciates.
Pretty much this. Post back injury Rashford has seen much of his take on threat be diminished and he’s largely had to rely on purple patches of great finishing or off ball runs to be effective still. But he’s never been some uber technical player or top creator on the ball, so when the directness isn’t as effective it leaves you with a player who’s not quite as dangerous as his reputation would have you believe.
Personally I think Rashfords biggest issue as a player is how shit he is in duels, both on the ground and in the air. He’s a fecking unit of a human yet plays like one of the smaller players on the pitch often, shrinking out of challenges and hardly ever bothering to win a header. Its something that should be a strength of his instead and doesn’t take much skill other than application and the desire to do so yet would make a huge impact on his effectiveness on a consistent basis
You mean like how we played him there last year when Hojlund was injured and he whined to the press about being played out of his favourite spot?
Harsh.
Him whining is the least of our problems now. He'll play where is best for the team or not play at all. His ''favourite spot'' doesn't exist in Rubens system so he'll have to adapt.
I think Rashford has been (slightly) better in these situations this season than what we saw last year, but yeah, it really stands out when you see Amad who is four inches shorter and carrying multiple kilos less muscle competing for the ball in every situation 5x more than Rashford would.
At how he’s been stinking up for the most part of the past 6 years, we’re better off with him not playing.
And Rashford adapting?
It says a lot that Amad scores more with his head than Rashford does.
Yeah i mean imagine if Rashford threw himself around and relished physical contact. He’d be a fecking handful even without his old burst and explosiveness on the ball. Instead he mostly hates that part of the game, so it means he has to be that much sharper from a pure technical standpoint to ensure every dribble/pass/shot is quality to make an impact.
Funny enough I think people tend to overrate the physical part of the sport a bit with regards to midfielders but underrate it with attackers. An attacker who can come out of 50/50’s and aerial challenges with the ball an extra 2-3 times a game gives him that many more opportunities to directly impact it without requiring perfect team play or a sharp bit of skill.
New to the Cafe, not new too football. You've been saying it since Brown and O'Shea?
Well I've been saying it since Gordon McQueen and Brian Greenhoff.
Amorim will get him into form (hopefully).... It was only a few weeks back where he was jinking into the penalty box like his old self. Memories are short here, but he's a good weapon to have
In which position? I’m struggling to see where he fits into a 343 unless he plays as the Striker.
And that is what I would try. From what I’ve seen from Sporting Rashford could be a good fit for the striker role in that setup.
I think he knows that in the long term Garnacho, Hojlund, Mainoo, Amad, Yoro are the sort of players that Ineos will priorities and he's just place sitting till the club can sort out itself, don't forget the people who gave him the big contract and made him the main man are all gone.
I think a similar fate awaits him as we've seen with Ten Hag, Murtough, Varane etc. I think Ineos will gradually overhaul the entire set up and I think he knows he won't survive it.
I think a similar fate awaits him as we've seen with Ten Hag, Murtough, Varane etc. I think Ineos will gradually overhaul the entire set up and I think he knows he won't survive it.
Even if this is the case, half of his problem is him being in a sulk unless he can play from the left. He wants to run at defenders, cut inside and shoot. If he doesn't then you'll get people defending his lack of effort as justified protest at being played 'out of position'. Rashford has only interest in playing one position and doing one thing. That's something I'm sure has impacted his development and progression. I honestly do not believe he has ever had any interest in improving his game or getting better at the fundamentals of being a footballer. Instead he has tried very hard to be a certain type of footballer. The fact his skillset in those areas isn't of any great quality, doesn't matter. That's all he wants to do, that's all he's willing to do. It's evident that at no point in his career has he focused at all on anything other than being a poor mimic of Ronaldo.
The man has played 400 games for United and still routinely just runs the ball off the pitch like a a kid in an under 12s game who hasn't yet developed any sense of spatial awareness. If we take any lesson from the last few years it has to be that this many deficiencies in basic attributes isn't normal for a football player a this level and aren't compensated for by citing how many goals he scored three years ago.
He's proven completely unwilling to change his game. Even though he's right-footed, if you put him on the right he'll effectively retreat into silent protest and just amble around the pitch in a sulk.
Any optimism that Rashford can or is willing to adapt in any way, shape or form to play in a new system is very optimistic.
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As one of the so called “senior” players at the club, the example he sets is shocking.
Unless he can get an attitude transplant under Amorim and his performances pick up dramatically (which I highly doubt), he should be a goner at the end of the season.
Unless he can get an attitude transplant under Amorim and his performances pick up dramatically (which I highly doubt), he should be a goner at the end of the season.
Well he’s gonna have the chance to impress or not the coaching staff as he will be at Carrington during the international break.
How many days till the release of the ‘extra’ training session video during the international break?
They dont actually seem to do much good, do they?
I want to know how many assists he's ever got from a cutback cross into the box after giving up on beating his man. I've seen a million of them, but I can't recall us ever scoring from one. There are just so many totally ineffectual parts of his game. I don't know how analysts and coaches have not drilled those parts of his game out of him by now, it's wild.
Maybe not for his actual general and match fitness, but I always see some people on twitter/X get hyped and take the bait about him "finally being back".
A good part of that role - like running the channels in behind etc, yeah, but he's never been particularly strong with his back to goal, outmuscling defenders on his back whilst bring the ball down and with winning headers etc etc.
That's why I think the position is Hojlund's to lose as he has a lot of the tools Gyokeres has, he just needs to bring it all together more consistently.
Either way, not a dig at Rashford. I'm excited to see what Amorim can do with a lot of these players and I'm sure there'll be 1 or 2 surprises where the majority's thought completely the opposite, but said player(s) becomes the complete opposite of that (guaranteed starter, or struggle for gametime).
i was so so so bad on Sunday....I was very happy to see Garnacho redy to enter the pitch in the 51st minute
Is that you Marcus??
Yes, at your service.
'Marcus, you got to pass better today yeah, please. Pass better today, score a goal, and work on your first touch as well, yeah?'
He looks a bit lost as a wide forward currently which is extremely concerning - and I really do not see him as a wing back in the new system.
He could work as one of the "10's" but he is behind Amad / Garnacho / Bruno for these positions, therefore I think Amorim might give him a good chance as the central striker (especially as Hojlund is far from the finished article and Zirkzee is far less suited). We all know Marcus's issues as a striker, however I feel there is a greater chance of him being a success there in the 3-4-3 system as he will be running the channels more, and less as a static back to goal style target man, where his weak hold up play comes to the fore.
Lets hope he picks up from here, otherwise he's an awkward £350k per week asset sat on the bench for another 3.5 years!
He could work as one of the "10's" but he is behind Amad / Garnacho / Bruno for these positions, therefore I think Amorim might give him a good chance as the central striker (especially as Hojlund is far from the finished article and Zirkzee is far less suited). We all know Marcus's issues as a striker, however I feel there is a greater chance of him being a success there in the 3-4-3 system as he will be running the channels more, and less as a static back to goal style target man, where his weak hold up play comes to the fore.
Lets hope he picks up from here, otherwise he's an awkward £350k per week asset sat on the bench for another 3.5 years!
I have no idea where he can fit in in Amorim's system. I can see pretty much everyone in our squad in a 3-4-3 except for him.
Don't see him there at all.
"Why are you not playing?"'Marcus, you got to pass better today yeah, please. Pass better today, score a goal, and work on your first touch as well, yeah?'