Even when the majority of the team play well, he's still woeful. So poor. I cannot see him being a starter under Amorim, won't be surprised if that's the catalyst to move him on in the summer.
10
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 18
- Goals
- 4
- Assists
- 3
- Yellow cards
- 2
Another 350k.
Yeah. We haven't helped him and different managers constantly trying to change him has harmed his development. Some coaches trying to make him a winger who holds the touch line and run at defenders, when he is just an off the ball in behind runner, basically a poacher.
Yeah I think so. Problem is Marcus clearly doesn't. He's fancied himself as a ball player for a few years now and wants too many touches. I'd say that's the primary cause of his problems.
He's not as quick as he was, doesn't have the engine he did at 20 but he's still well capable of running in behind CB's and staying away from them.
Was going to say I hope Amorim quickly realises he hasn't got it as a wide player anymore but his system should take care of that.
This. Compare him with Casemiro; Casemiro, who won literally everything and is at the end of his career, is still playing with passion and emotions. Rashford, who is United academy player, in his prime years and won only few cups, is playing exactly like you said. "I must go to my fecking job which i even don't like".
I know you're getting some stick for saying this but it seems like a fair assesment of the situation
Attention, both good and bad, has always been a part of professional sport. The pressure and stress and being in the spotlight is the price they pay for earning millions. If they don't like it they can go and do something else with their lives, and if they can't handle it they shouldn't be playing for Manchester United. That's just the way it is
No we mightn't need a direct replacement for Marcus, but the area that needs strengthening the most is our attack! The fact that our only centre forward options are Hojlund and Zirkzee (who I barely count as a CF) is scandalous.
I'm going to hold off. Really curious to find out what Amorim thinks of him, whether he has any ideas about him. God knows he needs a change.
I'm always getting stick mate
I am normally a bit more fair minded than a lot of United fans on him, but today he was really phoning it in I am not sure there is player in there anymore he looks to have lost his desire
We really need to move him on in the summer but we have said this for years. He can only play one way, running in behind into space. With a bit of effort that could make him a decent squad player but he can't even manage that. Never sticks a foot in, always beaten to the ball.
The mental impact he must have on the other players... busting a gut and turning around to see him jogging.
The mental impact he must have on the other players... busting a gut and turning around to see him jogging.
Not involved much and doesn't really influence games any more.
Probably one of the worst contracts in world football. He will be difficult to get rid of. We’ll probably have to contribute to some of it if we have any hope of offloading.
This is why i want him moved on. We've a new breed of players coming through now, it cannot be deemed acceptable. Imagine being the fullback behind him all game
Maybe Conte or Jose or someone (please!) can help us to get rid of him. Sometimes it's like that. Players peak early. need to change football club to kick on at their level. It's time for Marcus now. But I am sure his past reputation along with new manager hire will grant him another season , dare I say it even two on his stupid contract.
Perhaps Amorim will soon realize he's not of use and we could pay three other players, perhaps he will do wonders and make something out of him. But today showed everything I hate about Rashford. Very slow to release the ball, passing back. ZERO intentions to actually tackle the ball, and not to run next to it, out of possession.
At elast we know he can't play wingback and no9, and it will be difficult to displace Amad and Bruno as no10s Garnacho being the first sub. Mount might surpass him too if he stays fit.
Perhaps Amorim will soon realize he's not of use and we could pay three other players, perhaps he will do wonders and make something out of him. But today showed everything I hate about Rashford. Very slow to release the ball, passing back. ZERO intentions to actually tackle the ball, and not to run next to it, out of possession.
At elast we know he can't play wingback and no9, and it will be difficult to displace Amad and Bruno as no10s Garnacho being the first sub. Mount might surpass him too if he stays fit.
Fin. Finito.
Best for both parties we part way in the summer.
Best for both parties we part way in the summer.
Always someone elses fault, isn’t it
He brings on a lot of the criticism himself with his performances. Now of course that's no excuse for it to turn into abuse but he is just nowhere near good enough as one of our supposed star players, and this is the third season in four now he's been poor.
He'll get one last chance under Amorim but it's been too long now for me to have any confidence in him turning things around. Honestly think a fresh challenge is the best thing for him.
He'll get one last chance under Amorim but it's been too long now for me to have any confidence in him turning things around. Honestly think a fresh challenge is the best thing for him.
No it's mostly his fault, but as a fanbase we rarely work with our players it seems we prefer to work against them... Hoijlund, Zirkzee and Ugarte are some example this season
In summary, even though I know it makes some uncomfortable, we have played a part too - and will continue to do so
It is when it comes to certain players.
It's possible that he's just suffering under some form of imposter syndrome.
Or
He's really just isn't good enough and doesn't even care enough to run anymore.
That's incredibly unfair on our matchgoing fans, who are probably the most patient and tolerant in the whole league when it comes to underperforming players (and managers) You really have to stink the joint out for an absurdly long time before there's even a hint of a backlash. I'm sure Brennan Johnson could tell him a few things about what it feels like when the fans at the stadium actually turn on you. Hopefully he can also learn from him the best way to shut them up, by playing better.
If he's feeling upset about what people say about him online that's a completely different issue. With an obvious and easy solution.
Why would you think I'm talking about match going fans?
You were making it sound as though he has no agency in what’s going on. So you had to be referring to those fans. They’re the only ones he is forced to listen to.
Why would he affected by what a bunch of random people write online?
Can't do anything about how you interpreted it, but my posts in this thread make it clear who I'm talking about and what he should do about it...
Regardless, it's pretty shit and the fact that him and others in the team cannot just ignore it doesn't make it right
I remember you from before but... really?
You guys get upset when I (on my lonesome) call you moany cnuts...
Looking forward to the individual training compilations during the international break. "Training like an animal" etc.
They literally can ignore it. That’s easy. Just stop seeking out comments about yourself online. It’s not hard at all to do. Far easier than knuckling down and winning the fans over by upping their game on the pitch.
It's normally Henry Winter who tweets something like that isn't it?
I'm sure he'll get a chance under Amorim but I just don't think I see him turning it around. He's having another poor unproductive season and unless things improve that will be 3 terrible seasons out of the last 4.
Yes, but I guess it's not that simple... evidently... You're literally repeating what I've said months ago
It takes a bit of discipline, sure. But then so does not going to Belfast on the piss, mid-season, right before an important match. And if someone lacks discipline I think they might not be well suited to elite sport.
It's not just lack of confidence, he's playing with fear. I get the feel that he's not trying anything because he's afraid of the backlash he's going to cop
Just looks like he's mentally done, while he's at United and I think the only thing that can change that around for him is a new club.
Don't see him digging himself out of the hole he's in at United
Just looks like he's mentally done, while he's at United and I think the only thing that can change that around for him is a new club.
Don't see him digging himself out of the hole he's in at United
Why on earth would that upset me, i’m not 5 years old.
It’s fairly far fetched to partially blame comments online for Rashford struggling for close to 2 years. Comments online are a mixture of everything, there’s just as many, if not more, that are singing his praises on every social media post from his official profile. Just as you have a mix of opinions on here as well. It’s not as if there’s a torrent of abuse directed at him, and it’s not as if there’s been a big shift either.
My thing is, couldn't care less if we're rinsing other teams players.... They're all cnuts. But some of you lot seem to enjoy rinsing ours and it doesn't make sense to me unless it's a player that's turned out to be a wrong un.
We are supposed to be the 12th man but we're trying to be the 12th man for the oppo, the match day thread is a madness...
I get it I'm getting old football is emotion blah blah... Just feels shit and the end result with players looking a shambles and shook is pretty predictable and detrimental.
Anyway continue....
We are supposed to be the 12th man but we're trying to be the 12th man for the oppo, the match day thread is a madness...
I get it I'm getting old football is emotion blah blah... Just feels shit and the end result with players looking a shambles and shook is pretty predictable and detrimental.
Anyway continue....
I love how @afrocentricity now presents it as a fact that Rashfords form is badly affected by anything negative written about him online.
Can't be blaming online comments for why Rashford has been rubbish for most of the last 3 years surely?
If that is true then it really will be better for both parties for him to move on next summer.
If that is true then it really will be better for both parties for him to move on next summer.
Nah it's more that I don't think it helps... not surprised the nuance eludes some of you
The bad form preceded the bad things being written about him, this goes back to when Jose was manager and all the press and pundits were backing Rashford.
I agree it doesn’t help but at the end of the day he gets stick because of his poor play and it will only change if he plays better
With both Hojlund and ZZ struggling, I would like to see him played through the middle. I think he might be able to do a decent job specially against higher defenses.