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Marcus has been playing moderately OK this season, certainly by the standards of last season which was little short of abysmal.

The problem is, whether people like to admit it or not, is that Marcus is not a top quality player. On his day, he's a decent top half Prem player, that's about it. No shame in that, it must be extraordinarily difficult to even reach that standard in the game.

But United will never get back to challenging for the PL if we're hanging onto the idea of Marcus as our "star" attacker. I'm really gobsmacked that people who have presumably watched Marcus's career since his debut need this spelled out to them.

Nah, Rashford on his day is absolute quality. A game changed that terrorises defences. His problem is that those days are very few and far between and when hes not having one of those games hes just a bit crap and doesn't contribute elsewhere. He is, like many top top class players, happy to wander around waiting for his moment and fecking off his team in the process. The only way you can do that however is when you are world class and the team is set up to enable you. You do that for the likes of Mbappe because when he is given those chances he will likely score. You do that for Rashford and he might reward you 1 in 3 games.

He sits in a weird place where he isn't good enough/consistent enough to build a team around but hes not seemingly capable or willing to be a team player.
 
I find it assuming that anyone would think xG of 1 goal per 6 games or 1 xA per 3 games is acceptable. And let's not talk about looking like a world beater against Barnsley... If that's your benchmark and expectation go root for a Championship team please.

Why are we even trying to defend Rashford? Yes ETH was a bad manager and got fired but that doesn't mean Rashford isn't also a equally bad player. Both of them suck it's not 1 or the other.

Rashford had 1 good season which "shockingly" coincided with a contract year and he's done feck all before and after. Right so he was disliked by 2 experts Jose/Ralf and gotten the other 3 that trusted him fired. Overrating English talent is why England never wins the WC. And no EPL club is more prone to that fallacy than us, and it's not coincidence that we also suck. Yes there are some actual good English players, but also a lot of mediocre ones. The trick is calling a spade a spade.

He hasn't got any manager fired. No one player can do that.
 
I'm not expecting much of a turnaround in form from him.
I think he's pretty much shot as a top player.
 
Hopefully has a decent season and we move him on in the summer
 
When Ten Hag got hired a significant portion of the fanbase said that he was doomed to failure because our two key players would pose a problem for him, Rashford and Bruno are incapable of playing in a possession based system. This was also post Rangnick, so many were rightfully pointing out how appalling Rashford's attitude was.

Ten Hag than proceeds to fail, and in large part due to his overreliance on Bruno and Rashford and a failure to implement his possession based style because of them, trying to come up with some fastest transition team plan to try and accommodate them. His time was also mired in Rashford's horrible attitude. Why he chose to stick with him is beyond me, but Rashford seems to be the hill he died on.

Now fans are pointing out that Rashford and Bruno will pose similar issues to Amorim, who will also want to implement a high pressing, possession based system and that Rashford's attitude might pose additional problems. And we have to listen to the same fans bang on about how this will be the guy to finally get something out of Rashford, the 5 managers before were all personally responsible for why Rashford was poor during their time, but this is when he finally will shine.... that is until they turn on Amorim too and blame him for Rashford being shite under what will end up being his 6th fulltime coach.
 
Cant see where he fits into Amorim's system. Alarm bells should be ringing for him
Plenty who've studied his tactics would disagree with you.
Whether he's willing to work hard enough to fit in is another issue. The tactical set up is built for fast wide forwards.
 
When Ten Hag got hired a significant portion of the fanbase said that he was doomed to failure because our two key players would pose a problem for him, Rashford and Bruno are incapable of playing in a possession based system. This was also post Rangnick, so many were rightfully pointing out how appalling Rashford's attitude was.

Ten Hag than proceeds to fail, and in large part due to his overreliance on Bruno and Rashford and a failure to implement his possession based style because of them, trying to come up with some fastest transition team plan to try and accommodate them. His time was also mired in Rashford's horrible attitude. Why he chose to stick with him is beyond me, but Rashford seems to be the hill he died on.

Now fans are pointing out that Rashford and Bruno will pose similar issues to Amorim, who will also want to implement a high pressing, possession based system and that Rashford's attitude might pose additional problems. And we have to listen to the same fans bang on about how this will be the guy to finally get something out of Rashford, the 5 managers before were all personally responsible for why Rashford was poor during their time, but this is when he finally will shine.... that is until they turn on Amorim too and blame him for Rashford being shite under what will end up being his 6th fulltime coach.

This is complete nonsense. Ten hag didn't fail because of Rashford and Bruno not being able to play possession football.

Do you think we were so easy to break down because of Bruno and Rashford ?

Can I also say that, Ten Hag chose Bruno as captain, it was his decision, no one pointed a gun to his head saying Bruno has to be captain and play.

LVG, Jose, Ole, EtH, so he is on his 5th full time coach.
 
A fanbase that hates it own players. I would look to move on if I were him.
Hopefully he doesn't engage anymore, social media is a cesspit. Don't know why any of them bother, just concentrate on the football. Do what you need to do in a match, score goals. Everything else is noise, his career here will live and die by that alone...
 
Any criticism of Rashy is immediately shut down by using words like hate and abuse.

It clearly isn’t - there’s a lot of fair and reasonable posts criticising him. However, nonsense such as him being responsible for 5 managers being sacked or that he was somehow responsible for ETH’s tactical failings deserves nothing other than derision.

There’s nothing to stop a reasoned discussion about whether or not people feel he will fit into a new system or if people think his performances haven’t been good enough.
 
Rashford had improved this season but he still needs to develop another dimension in his game apart from rushing at the defender and looking for the shot first when it’s clearly no shot on. But he may have been instructed by ETH to go it alone whener possible.
 
Any criticism of Rashy is immediately shut down by using words like hate and abuse.
After Ten Hag was sacked a bunch of people rushed to this thread to give him shit. Bearing in mind we haven't played a game since West Ham and he hasn't posted anything. It's a strange obsession some people have with a lad that has come through our own youth academy and is one of our better players.
 
Who said he'd be a wingback?
Plenty of content discussing Rashford fitting into his system and not as a wingback.
Statman Dave
Stretford Paddock
Atlantis Football

The manager plays wingbacks, I've seen them play myself thanks

I dont see Rashford doing what ive seen their wingbacks do. He might be used as a striker. He could be used behind the striker, but normally they have those AMs taking the ball in advanced midfield positions and playmaking from there and thats not Rashford's style so I dont think he'd be a regular in the position

Straight up wingers who go forward and dont pay attention and get back are not going to fit. Against West Ham Rashford had teammates shouting at him to get back
 
The manager plays wingbacks, I've seen them play myself thanks

I dont see Rashford doing what ive seen their wingbacks do. He might be used as a striker. He could be used behind the striker, but normally they have those AMs taking the ball in advanced midfield positions and playmaking from there and thats not Rashford's style so I dont think he'd be a regular in the position

Straight up wingers who go forward and dont pay attention and get back are not going to fit. Against West Ham Rashford had teammates shouting at him to get back
Have there not been several Sporting fans saying they would expect him to use Rashford in one of the forward roles?
 
A manager gets sacked for not doing a good job and the Rashford thread is suddenly ten times busier with people piling on to hate and abuse him for some reason
 
A manager gets sacked for not doing a good job and the Rashford thread is suddenly ten times busier with people piling on to hate and abuse him for some reason
It is bizarre. Especially when he’s played quite well this season. Many just seem to really dislike him personally.
 
The manager plays wingbacks, I've seen them play myself thanks

I dont see Rashford doing what ive seen their wingbacks do. He might be used as a striker. He could be used behind the striker, but normally they have those AMs taking the ball in advanced midfield positions and playmaking from there and thats not Rashford's style so I dont think he'd be a regular in the position

Straight up wingers who go forward and dont pay attention and get back are not going to fit. Against West Ham Rashford had teammates shouting at him to get back
Thanks for your opinion, there are others who do not agree with it, as I evidenced.
Time will tell if United secure Amorim and how he sets up.
Marcus will undoubtedly get chances and I hope he steps up and performs. I look at the system and the just off the striker role is somewhere he could excel. Pretty obvious he's not going to be a wingback.
 
Thanks for your opinion, there are others who do not agree with it, as I evidenced.
Time will tell if United secure Amorim and how he sets up.
Marcus will undoubtedly get chances and I hope he steps up and performs. I look at the system and the just off the striker role is somewhere he could excel. Pretty obvious he's not going to be a wingback.

I agree he could play that role, but not how the players picked for Sporting play. They are more AMs while he would be a second striker and Pote averages 5.5 key passes a game and Trincao 2.3 while Rashford is at 1.2

I think Bruno, Eriksen, Amad and Zirzkee would all be more likely to play those roles
 
It is bizarre. Especially when he’s played quite well this season. Many just seem to really dislike him personally.

Same with most of our players to be honest. Hell, even the ones who have left are still getting it! The McTominay thread is still mostly used for people to go in and continue to call him shit and who are clearly hoping he fails at his new club so as to validate their opinion. But yeah, Rashford seems to get the worst of it.
 
Same with most of our players to be honest. Hell, even the ones who have left are still getting it! The McTominay thread is still mostly used for people to go in and continue to call him shit and who are clearly hoping he fails at his new club so as to validate their opinion. But yeah, Rashford seems to get the worst of it.
I’m fairly certain the new coach will like him and he will feature regularly, contrary to some of the sentiments in here.
 
I agree he could play that role, but not how the players picked for Sporting play. They are more AMs while he would be a second striker and Pote averages 5.5 key passes a game and Trincao 2.3 while Rashford is at 1.2

I think Bruno, Eriksen, Amad and Zirzkee would all be more likely to play those roles

It’s not difficult to see how his role would work in the Amorim formation though. You could easily play Bruno in the Pote role and Rashford as a more attacking version of the left side role. He obviously wouldn’t be playing the wingback role. I could see a formation something like:

Yoro (RCB)
De Ligt (CB)
Martinez (LCB)

Maz (RWB)
Garnacho (LWB)

Ugarte (CM)
Bruno (CM)

Rashford (LAM)
Amad (RAM)

Hojlund/Zirkzee (CF)

That’s obviously very attacking with Garnacho as the LWB and Bruno tasked with holding position but it would be fun to see.

Edit - that’s based on who is fit currently. First choice team would probably bring Mainoo in and Bruno swap with Amad. Shaw might also be preferred to Martinez in that role for the two games a season he is fit for.
 
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I’m fairly certain the new coach will like him and he will feature regularly, contrary to some of the sentiments in here.

I think it’s fair to say he will be expected to press more effectively than he has been doing but it should be accompanied by less responsibility to track back. I’d hope that better suits his skill set. His attacking skill set should definitely suit a more structured style though.
 
Same with most of our players to be honest. Hell, even the ones who have left are still getting it! The McTominay thread is still mostly used for people to go in and continue to call him shit and who are clearly hoping he fails at his new club so as to validate their opinion. But yeah, Rashford seems to get the worst of it.
How the feck is McTominay still getting it!? Can't even escape the toxicity.... Hope he's doing well

So many miserable cnuts concentrated in one place. It's actually crazy
 
After Ten Hag was sacked a bunch of people rushed to this thread to give him shit. Bearing in mind we haven't played a game since West Ham and he hasn't posted anything. It's a strange obsession some people have with a lad that has come through our own youth academy and is one of our better players.
But it’s not really surprising when taking into account how Rashford has carried himself the past 2 seasons (and also retaining memories of his ghosting under Rangnick.) I’ve never hated Rashford (if it’s possible, you can find my posts during the early pandemic days and you’ll see me positively fawning over the guy and all the great things he was doing.) But it’s hard for me (and I can only speak for myself) to get past what I’ve seen over the past few years and not be incredibly pessimistic when it comes to Rashford.
 
To the Rashford fans, give a little, it might lend a little credence to your position sometimes. Your current tactic of shock, bewilderment, beguile, disbelief, confusion, etc every time someone criticizes Rashford makes you like nothing more than biased fanboys. You may like Rashford, he may possess some skills in the game you admire, his PR team does some great charity work, he's a local lad, etc... I get it, you love him, but let's be honest, he really isn't that good and never has been. He hasn't consistently delivered his entire time at United, yes he has shown glimpses of real talent, but these moments are few and far between.

This thread is probably 10% people who just dislike him and probably about 60-70% of people that hope for the best but just don't rate him, the player, the professional, whatever it might be, it comes across as genuine disappointment in his failure to deliver, nothing more, nothing personal. But every post of genuine criticism is met with shock and anger, which is honestly baffling.

On top of his performances, even more obvious, even more egregious, is his attitude over the last 4 years, there were at least two of those seasons he full on gave up and it was visible every minute he was on the pitch. Are you honestly that blind to it? Because everyone is seeing it but you. Again, if you gave a little, yeah, Rashford's attitude was poor today, no excuses, but hopefully he can get back to his best and contribute the next game.... this would be a rational response and people would take you seriously, instead of, you're just all a bunch of haters, you racist haters, you just hate Rashford, muh. That just makes you look bad and you'll never win a debate like that.
 
Man Utd 5:2 Leicester New
Poor performance today. Didn’t do anything of value
 
This is complete nonsense. Ten hag didn't fail because of Rashford and Bruno not being able to play possession football.

Do you think we were so easy to break down because of Bruno and Rashford ?

Can I also say that, Ten Hag chose Bruno as captain, it was his decision, no one pointed a gun to his head saying Bruno has to be captain and play.

LVG, Jose, Ole, EtH, so he is on his 5th full time coach.

ETH’s decisions, sure. But the fact is that sticking with Rashford and Bruno didn't help. And your question about why we’re easy to break down is daft. Quite obviously, Bruno and Rashford are the biggest factor in why we’re easy to break down. EtH was responsible for not seeing it or fixing it, but those two players together are a problem.