Kylian Mbappé | Player Performance Thread

Silva is great too. Nice to see him get his assist stats up as he seems to be involved in a lot of their goals but lacks the assist stats to get recognition for his work.

I will never understand that new thing about stats but unfortunately you are right.
 
I think he might get his 3rd hat-trick of the season tonight which is insane.
 
If he scores one more goal, he will be the youngest player to reach 10 goals in the league in the last 30 years.
 
Looks some talent! Problem for me is where do we fit him in the team in the long run if we were in for him. From the little I've seen of him he looks like a LW/ST to me. We already have Martial and Rashford for those positions. This guy will probably end up being better but the point is can we justify spending £50+ million on another player in positions we are fairly well stocked in?
 
I mean 30 years ago.

I don't know, I don't even know why they precised the last 30 years.

Edit: It seems that it's Henry but I'm not sure.
 
I mean 30 years ago.

I don't know but the ranking of the youngest players who scored 10 goals * gives:

1. Dembele 18 years and 10 months
2. Henry 19 y 2 m
3. Martial 19 y 4 m
4. Menez ----------- at his prime he was fantastic in 2012
5. Hazard 19 yy 7 m
6. Benzema 19 y 8 m

You have the proof that Mbappé has the potential to be the next French SUPER STAR :cool:


* unsure about the scope: all competitions? first 10 goals as a pro footballer?
 
I don't know, I don't even know why they precised the last 30 years.

Edit: It seems that it's Henry but I'm not sure.

I don't know but the ranking of the youngest players who scored 10 goals * gives:

1. Dembele 18 years and 10 months
2. Henry 19 y 2 m
3. Martial 19 y 4 m
4. Menez ----------- at his prime he was fantastic in 2012
5. Hazard 19 yy 7 m
6. Benzema 19 y 8 m

You have the proof that Mbappé has the potential to be the next French SUPER STAR :cool:


* unsure about the scope: all competitions? first 10 goals as a pro footballer?
Cheers! Yeah, that's quite an impressive list! Hope he keeps on going - preferably in a United shirt at some point :drool:
 
Is it clear that he's a Madrid fan or just a big Ronaldo fan?

I have never seen him say that he was a fan of Madrid, I know that he rejected them when he had to choose which academy to join.
 
I know France is a big country but how do you keep producing these insane talents? There's no other country atm with such big prospects imo.

We play them. I gave the stat somewhere else but this season in january the Ligue 1 had 29 rookies and they played +11000 minutes in comparison the PL had 12 rookies who played 900 minutes. In France we rarely miss talents because they will play pretty soon, the youth leagues are competitive and the Gambardella cup exposes them well.
 
Is it clear that he's a Madrid fan or just a big Ronaldo fan?

His father said he is a big Ronaldo fan. Mbappé at the age of 14 :angel:

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Now, keep in mind that Dembélé rejected Barcelona last summer despite being a massive fan of Messi and Barca
 
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He's a cracking young talent, I know Ousmane Dembele jumped after his breakout season but Mbappe is in a much better team and should stay at Monaco another season or 2 while he matures and gets past that often difficult second season.
 
I know France is a big country but how do you keep producing these insane talents? There's no other country atm with such big prospects imo.
France has Clairefontaine. While it doesn't develop all the talents France owned, it embodies the unity of the French football development. Nothing is perfect, so France at times didn't produce enough quality. However, there is more consistency in their system leading, to belief that after the barren spell, there would be a wave of new talent to emerge.

In contrast, English FA pretty much leaves the clubs to do their own thing & tried to rob the reward at the end while undermine the clubs with all their silly regulation. After misusing golden generation, there is no direction to produce the next generation. Each club develops the talent differently since there is no united essence to follow leading to players being incompatible when they play in the same shirt. It's no good for the league being too competitive while there is no direction for young players. The youth competitions ain't as competitive as other country. FA let developement system built on wishful thinking leading to hype & bubble.

Other countries while not producing the same amount of talent like France currently di show that they can consistently produce talent & also have solid development plan at national scale: Germany, Spain...
 
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France has Clairefontaine. While it doesn't develop all the talents France owned, it embodies the unity of the French football development. Nothing is perfect, so France at times didn't produce enough quality. However, there is more consistency in their system leading, to belief that after the barren spell, there would be a wave of new talent to emerge.

In contrast, English FA pretty much leaves the clubs to do their own thing & tried to rob the reward at the end while undermine the clubs with all their silly regulation. After misusing golden generation, there is no direction to produce the next generation. Each club develops the talent differently since there is no united essence to follow leading to players being incompatible when they play in the same shirt. It's no good for the league being too competitive while there is no direction for young players. The youth competitions ain't as competitive as other country. FA let developement system built on wishful thinking leading to hype & bubble.

Other countries while not producing the same amount of talent like France currently di show that they can consistently produce talent & also have solid development plan at national scale: Germany, Spain...

Another advantage they have is that their league allows them to give young players a chance. When relegation candidates like Crystal Palace can afford to spend £30m on an international striker like Benteke then what hope do their academy strikers have of breaking through. The amount of young players that France are producing at the moment is insane, even PSG are getting in on the act this season after rarely giving any French players a chance in recent years.
 
Reminds me a bit of Ronaldo - fat one before he was fat.

I don't see it at all. Perhaps he's explosive like Ronaldo was but the sheer technical ability of Ronaldo is so far from Mbappe it's ridiculous to suggest they're similar. For me Mbappe looks like he's never really in control of either the ball or his own limbs. He might actually be extremely skillful but it's all a bit of a mess technically. He just manages to fumble his way though with pace and power. Granted it's pretty damn effective but still.
 
France has Clairefontaine. While it doesn't develop all the talents France owned, it embodies the unity of the French football development. Nothing is perfect, so France at times didn't produce enough quality. However, there is more consistency in their system leading, to belief that after the barren spell, there would be a wave of new talent to emerge.

In contrast, English FA pretty much leaves the clubs to do their own thing & tried to rob the reward at the end while undermine the clubs with all their silly regulation. After misusing golden generation, there is no direction to produce the next generation. Each club develops the talent differently since there is no united essence to follow leading to players being incompatible when they play in the same shirt. It's no good for the league being too competitive while there is no direction for young players. The youth competitions ain't as competitive as other country. FA let developement system built on wishful thinking leading to hype & bubble.

Other countries while not producing the same amount of talent like France currently di show that they can consistently produce talent & also have solid development plan at national scale: Germany, Spain...
Never heard of that, I will look it up, thanks.
 
Better than Martial, and probably more intelligent than him. Mbappé is not a possible winger like Martial is, he's quicker and technically better.
 
We play them. I gave the stat somewhere else but this season in january the Ligue 1 had 29 rookies and they played +11000 minutes in comparison the PL had 12 rookies who played 900 minutes. In France we rarely miss talents because they will play pretty soon, the youth leagues are competitive and the Gambardella cup exposes them well.
That's a huge difference, France always have a talented squad but the upcoming talents are just ridiculous. Mpabbe, Dembele x2, Coman, Martial, Lemar, Pogba; Kante, Rabiot, Kimpembe, Laporte, Varane, Zouma, Lapont (the keeper) out the top of my head, hope they can keep this up and strengthen the ligue 1 a bit.
 
Better than Martial, and probably more intelligent than him. Mbappé is not a possible winger like Martial is, he's quicker and technically better.

Last season Martial was the best prospect in the world and regarded as one of the fastest players around; this season, he's Welbeck with less pace. It's absolutely mind boggling. Let's see in a little while who is better; I do believe it is more difficult to play in the PL than the French league as well.
 
He looks amazing for his age, looking forward to seeing him again against City in the 2nd leg.
 
Last season Martial was the best prospect in the world and regarded as one of the fastest players around; this season, he's Welbeck with less pace. It's absolutely mind boggling. Let's see in a little while who is better; I do believe it is more difficult to play in the PL than the French league as well.

Mbappé is playing in a very attacking side yes it's true. But to be honest and having watching him this season I think that he has more quality than Martial, but the most important is very clever.

In France every one talks about Mbappé etc, I just want to wait and see how he does next season if he leaves or he plays his second season
 
Mbappé is playing in a very attacking side yes it's true. But to be honest and having watching him this season I think that he has more quality than Martial, but the most important is very clever.

In France every one talks about Mbappé etc, I just want to wait and see how he does next season if he leaves or he plays his second season

He may well be a greater talent than Martial, but I always wonder what makes a talent anyways. One may argue that Riquelme was at least as big a talent as Ronaldo, for instance.

I just find that it's easy to hyperbole teenagers. Now Mbappe is better, smarter, faster than Martial. I haven't watched him play, but all of those characteristics are what people highlighted last season for Martial. Every young players hits a rough patch now and then. Even Ronaldo at Martial's age was hit and miss.
 
He may well be a greater talent than Martial, but I always wonder what makes a talent anyways. One may argue that Riquelme was at least as big a talent as Ronaldo, for instance.

I just find that it's easy to hyperbole teenagers. Now Mbappe is better, smarter, faster than Martial. I haven't watched him play, but all of those characteristics are what people highlighted last season for Martial. Every young players hits a rough patch now and then. Even Ronaldo at Martial's age was hit and miss.

Mbappé at Monaco is better than Martial at Monaco. There is nothing else to it, it doesn't make Martial a lesser player, he just happens that when he left the league two big talents appeared and performed better than he did.
 
Mbappé at Monaco is better than Martial at Monaco. There is nothing else to it, it doesn't make Martial a lesser player, he just happens that when he left the league two big talents appeared and performed better than he did.

I agree but do you think the playing style works into that? The counter-attacking style Monaco has played as of late suits a player like Mbappe to a tee.
 
Mbappé at Monaco is better than Martial at Monaco. There is nothing else to it, it doesn't make Martial a lesser player, he just happens that when he left the league two big talents appeared and performed better than he did.

Not fully similar but I agree: yes, Mbappé is more impressive/powerful/precocious.
 
I agree but do you think the playing style works into that? The counter-attacking style Monaco has played as of late suits a player like Mbappe to a tee.

No, because you could make that statement for Martial who played for a Monaco team that was counter attacking even more. This season Monaco mainly play with the ball and Mbappé has been excellent and there is also a lot more pressure and expectations on him.
 
Better than Martial, and probably more intelligent than him. Mbappé is not a possible winger like Martial is, he's quicker and technically better.


Yeah right. Let's see Mbappe perform week in week out in the Prem before we get carried away.

Last season Martial was one of the best young players on the planet don't forget that.
 
Yeah right. Let's see Mbappe perform week in week out in the Prem before we get carried away.

Last season Martial was one of the best young players on the planet don't forget that.

I don't understand why people are being defensive like that. Martial at 18 years old was as good as Menez but not as good as Ben Arfa or Benzema, Martial isn't the biggest french talent, he is a big talent and he was the next big thing when he was in France but it doesn't make him untouchable. Also despite Mbappé's huge talent, I think that Benzema was still slightly better at the same age.