The climate is all wrong for a leader like Jeremy. Even his proposed apology for the Iraq war will be viewed by many as weakness; Britain likes its 'strong' leaders...even if they're talentless meatheads.
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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People saying that don't know what they're talking about, ignore.
Maria Eagle resigns. Eddie next.
There've also been dozens of shadow ministers outside the cabinet resigning today. You'd usually fill those with members of the 2015 intake, but they've already had to go in the shadow cabinet.
If there's going to be an election, there's going to be a not-insignificant period where Labour won't even just be an ineffective opposition, it won't be an opposition at all.
If there's going to be an election, there's going to be a not-insignificant period where Labour won't even just be an ineffective opposition, it won't be an opposition at all.
Kate Green (Shadow Equalities Minister) resigns.
Is there any chance he can survive this?
Elvis resigns.
Well, everyone else is resigning...
Well, everyone else is resigning...He can't really be forced out. His personality cult is strong enough that he'd win a new leadership battle. He seems like he'll be quite happy to see Labour crushed in a snap GE, as long as his idealogical purity is preserved.
Many of us will be able to vote Labour again without feeling the need to bathe in bleach afterwards, especially if he calls for Blair to face charges.
Will be very interesting to see how vocal the resigners are when it all comes out too.
Corbyn shouldn't even be on the new leadership ballot. There's a reason you need a minimum number of MPs to nominate you... because you can't be leader unless you can form a shadow cabinet.
Corbyn is done. It's ludicrous he won't just resign and be done with it so labour can move forward.
Corbyn is done. It's ludicrous he won't just resign and be done with it so labour can move forward.
Is it? Or was it until Friday morning?
I doubt I'm the only one on the left who agrees with most of his politics but is dismayed by his campaign. Whether there are enough like me that he would lose, I really don't know though.
Britain is being sabotaged from within. Who'd have thunk it, eh?
I would expect so. It seems like the £3 brigade are still out in force. It might not be as much of a landslide as last time, but he'd still win.
The right wing element within Labour never wanted a left wing leader and have really played their full hand this time.
Whether or not this is a pre-planned coup, do people really think Corbyn is electable? Part of the reason this whole cluster feck has happened is because Labour has stopped being an effective opposition party. Ed was hardly Blairite central - his main power came from the Unions same as Corbyn.
Labour has a real opportunity here to win central votes from the Conservatives but Corbyn is so utterly unelectable that even die hard Labour voters I know are praying he leaves so they can a) possibly win a GE and b) not have to vote something else.
I don't admire the way this thing is happening but if you think Corbyn should stay then presumably you're happy to see Conservative governments for the foreseeable future as there is no evidence whatsoever that his message is working with anyone.
And like it or not part of the leadership is to work/control your MPs, Blair did this well until he didn't and went. Cameron made a series of blunders because of pressure from his MPs and has now gone.
If you have no authority over your party in that way history says you have no chance.
Labour has a real opportunity here to win central votes from the Conservatives but Corbyn is so utterly unelectable that even die hard Labour voters I know are praying he leaves so they can a) possibly win a GE and b) not have to vote something else.
I don't admire the way this thing is happening but if you think Corbyn should stay then presumably you're happy to see Conservative governments for the foreseeable future as there is no evidence whatsoever that his message is working with anyone.
And like it or not part of the leadership is to work/control your MPs, Blair did this well until he didn't and went. Cameron made a series of blunders because of pressure from his MPs and has now gone.
If you have no authority over your party in that way history says you have no chance.
I think he needs to have been shown to be defeated (including by getting him to resign), otherwise the next leader will be dogged by claims of illegitimacy.
Agree wholeheartedly with your final sentence, dragging everyone down with him right now.
I don't know why he's being stubborn. Even if Labour were smashed to pieces at the next election, this guy would not resign. What is his endgame?
I'd believe the "he isn't electable" line a lot more if the plotters hadn't been actively working to ensure it comes true. They are the unelectable ones to me now, they've been intentionally working against their membership and their voters in order to secure a Corbyn resignation.
This is a fight against "we know better than you idiots, and if you don't believe us then we'll make sure that we're right". They must not be allowed to succeed.
The elements that are lining up to replace him are Tories in all but name. What's the point in having a Labour Party that only represents the middle class?
There's as much evidence that Labour is electable under him than there is in any other path right now.
The difference is Corbyn is taking his mandate from Labour members where as those resigning are seemingly taking there's from people on the door step who have grown disgruntled with Labour. the PLP blame that on Corbyn but it's quite clear Labour has simply lost these people to UKIP and the Tory right.
I worry very much that they're cutting off those who still support Labour with this move and could destroy the party as the Lib Dems did. The only way this will work is collecting voters who are so throughly opposed to the tories because of Brexit and the lies that they'll vote Labour under a moderate leader.
You're awarding him strategic nous that he has shown no signs of possessing.
No real light at the end of the tunnel, is there? Either Corbyn trundles on with increasingly fewer friends in his own party, clutching on to the perceived idealogical high ground and leading Labour into irrelevance after the next GE, or he gets ousted and the party sells its soul chasing after would-be UKIP voters, alienating its own members and probably still delivering disastrous results at the next GE.
Are we heading towards some horrific reality where the Tories are the further left of the country's two biggest parties?
Have people forgiven the Lib Dems yet for whatever it was they were supposed to have done?
Are we heading towards some horrific reality where the Tories are the further left of the country's two biggest parties?
Have people forgiven the Lib Dems yet for whatever it was they were supposed to have done?
If Lib Dems get their act together along with the greens, they will do really well.
Why would he stand aside when he is the one with the mandate? If this branch of the PLP want to take over they can win a leadership challenge or feck off and start there own party it's as simple as that
Defence questions in the Commons later today, the newly appointed shadow defence secretary may not be able to make it back from Glastonbury in time.
This just sums up the arrogant arsehole. Electing him was always going to end in tears.
What? Are you serious?
Taking a mandate from Labour members means very little as they are a tiny proportion of the population who vote Labour. Second, you're assuming he would win another mandate from them which may or may not be true once they see he exercises zero control over his actual party.
Under Blair, Labour won three elections in a row. Under Foot and Kinnock who were both more charismatic leaders than Corbyn they failed to do so even when facing some of the most unpopular governments in history.
History ain't on his side, he has poor relations with the media, zero support from his own MPs and you can tell what the Conservatives think of him by the eagerness with which they agree a quick GE is required.
To be fair the new Shadow Defence Secretary probably didn't expect the previous Shadow Defence Secretary to take part in an orchestrated campaign to humiliate and undermine the current leader so the right wing elements could seize control of the party when they were booking their holidays.
He's one point up on the Tories when they have just plunged this country into dissarray and have no leader? And you think that means he is electable?
It's all here:
A VICTORY FOR POPULAR SOVEREIGNTY - a defeat for the EU-IMF-NATO axis
Rest assured, secret Brexiter Corbyn would be the most vocal of campaigners if this referendum was about the third world, Britain abandoning nukes or bombing Israel.
Angela eagle in tears speaking on wato
It means more than the anecdotal mandate these rebels claim to have from voices on thier doorstep. These members you're dismissing are the grass roots who you need for an election campaign
Exactly what do you have to back up a claim that back to Blair is what the country wants? Especially considering when people have just voted out largely because of politicians like Blair who have failed them and as they see it ruined the country with uncontrolled immigration experiments.
I won't automatically be voting Corbyn but some of you need to get your head out of the sand if you think it's just a matter of getting rid of him and everything will be fine. No one will hate Labour anymore.
That was from March.
Spot on. For the sake of this country, he needs to do the honourable thing and leave. Everyone screaming that this is a coup against the labour members, these are the same labour members who only became members by paying £3 to vote him in in the first place.
Corbyn, like Farage, would fair much better under proportional representation. However, ironically considering we've just left the "undemocratic" EU, our government is not democratically elected. As such we need an opposition capable of winning first past the post and Corbyn simply does not play the correct system and is an idealist.
He'd have won in the first round even without the new affiliate members who paid the 3 pound to join.
The previous shadow defence secretary was Emily Thornberry, she hasn't resigned, she got moved.
If you think the likes of Nia Griffith, Lisa Nandy, Owen Smith, Kate Green and Angela Eagle are "right wing elements", you clearly play no actual attention to the Labour party.
Ok fair enough but its clear that the Euro debate was weighing heavily on that poll.