Oh absolutely. The wider public will eat up a campaign led by someone so desperate to take the paltry money disabled people have from them she dreamt up assessments using imaginary wheelchairs or a bloke who covered up Britain's involvement in extraordinary rendition.
I image you might be right about not having the same negativity as Corbyn but Starmer would be framed as wanting to "stop the will of the people" and we've all forgotten that Thornberry had that massive gaff with the white van man England flag thing.
Blair?
It will be just get repeated during the next election, plus whatever other shite the press throw at them. But the main differences is that MP's like Stamer and Thornberry don't same have politics as Corbyn, which means they wouldn't take the same sorts of risks as Corbyn did during the last election such as
Tbf they voted in the conservatives so yeah probably they don't mind do they
That will be up to the hundreds of thousands of Labour's new members, when they can't turn a blind eye to how useless Corbyn is any longer, and it will be someone else from left. It needs a leftist to answer that one.
It's hard, but it's in Momentum's own interest to find someone, if they want power. As a centrist I'd go for Umunna or Cooper, but neither of them has any chance of winning given the changes in party membership. It will be someone well to the left of them.
Er...You're making a lot of assumptions there.
Ah come on Chessy your still not into that boring nationalism stuff are you ? The bearded one said workers of the world unite.
Are you implying that a different Labour leader would;
Cameron's is interesting as well. Taken in the middle of Brown's election-that-never-was honeymoon, right before Northern Rock. Bloody events.
Yes, I hadn't noticed that. If only. Brown wasn't likeable as a person for some reason, but I preferred him to most. I would imagine Thatcher's rating would have been a great deal lower when in power than in opposition, just before the Falklands.
The labour people were are talking about I don't think would use social media in the same way, maybe I put it across badly but I'm not just talking about a few tweets here and there but election campaigning in general.Let's not forget the Labour Party has gone from standing newer to giant racist rock to taking about politics in a football stadium.
To mobilise the mass membership means ignoring the PLP, you can't do both. If the last few years have shown us anything its that the relationship of the membership and the PLP is really a power battle between the two groups over who has the right to run the party. If the PLP had their way in 2015 or 2016 we wouldn't even have a mass membership party(PLP have tried their best to make the membership as small as possible)
I liked that when he was talking to that stupid old bigoted women he was also think the exactly same thing as me. Shame he went back a apologise though.
This isn't football, it's politics. Everytime a new poll comes out and the tories are leading labour don't lose 3 points
Er...You're making a lot of assumptions there.
The only way we can really judge Corbyn is by how Labour are standing at the end of election night, I said on here that I thought Corbyn was doing a crap job before the last election and in the end he more than surprised me and the labour membership thought he should basically have another go. Will they think this after the next election is something we will have to wait and see but that is realistically the next time the leader of the Labour Party could change.
Sort of why I think polling before is useless or at least not good enough reasoning to replace Corbyn (Plus we know Labour can make up massive ground in a general election)
Ah come on Chessy your still not into that boring nationalism stuff are you ? The bearded one said workers of the world unite.
Being complicit in torture is many things, bland and boring it certainly isn't. If anything, boring would be a vast improvement.
The countdown lady is the best these lot have
Well...yeah, but if Labour lose again then that's another half-decade they've got to wait until they get another shot at winning an election. When going into an election they need to be doing all they can to maximise their chances of actually winning. Going into one with a leader who can't mount consistent polls leads and who is deeply, deeply unpopular is literally doing the exact opposite of that.
For what it's worth, I do think there's an annoying tendency for people to cling onto every single poll that comes out as representative of whatever grand narrative they themselves support. And there should be a recognition that even electable leaders will go through phases where they aren't well-liked for whatever reason. But that's different to when an opposition leader consistently fails to mount substantial polling leads, which is generally, like, a basic prerequisite for any opposition party who wants to come into power. And similarly, any opposition leader coming into power is generally going to want to have fairly strong popularity ratings. Corbyn...doesn't. And to point that out isn't being overly-dependent on polling, it's just stating basic facts which highlight he isn't doing well and that his current approach isn't working. If you're heading into an election, you generally want to do all you can to minimise your chances of defeat.
He did well in 2017 to claw back from almost certain defeat, but that was then. There's no guarantee he'd be able to do so again. I reckon Brexit's soured a lot of people on him to an extent that'll be hard to recover. He's generally a strong campaigner but there's a possibility he's largely maxed out his potential voting base and that he's not been able to successfully expand it at all. And for as much as they remain in disarray the Tories will struggle to run a campaign as bad as the last one. And some of Corbyn's lines of attack may struggle to be successful because he's literally been supporting the process which they've cocked up more than anything else in the last couple of years.
And on that last point - I wouldn't even class myself as a nationalist!
Just generally prefer the SNP's base level of competence which Scottish Labour have typically lacked, and believe we're too better off as an independent country. It's sort of hard to explain if you're not in Scotland how shite Labour have been - and continue to be - up here.
They've gone all in with the "his dick is too big" attack
My favourite one although it's not related to Corbyn was had Bernie won the primary the republicans were ready to attack him for stealing electricity when he lived in a apartment in his mid 20s. I'm sure it would have totally alienated him from his millennials voter base.
So what I’m getting from the last few posts is he’s a dull, old, unpopular man. Just the sort of person you want leading your party during an election.
Tom Bower, is that you?
