Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)

I can't believe she's the best they could come up with.

Also read today she was part of the committee meeting where they decided to purge the historic expense records and overturn the original decision that they made to keep them given the expense scandal.
 
She would be a interim leader .Just to try and rock the boat before having another leadership election.
 
Ubik said:
Indeed, she voted with the rest of the party on most issues.

Of course, if Corbyn resigned we could have a proper leadership contest with multiple candidates standing.
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139 Labour MPs voted against Iraq and there has been a reasonable turnover of MPs since 03 as well. Coalescing behind a pro-Iraq candidate 5 days after Chilcot is offensive.
 
Drifter said:
She would be a interim leader .Just to try and rock the boat before having another leadership election.
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I think thats wishful thinking to be honest. If her intention as ridiculous as it would be is to resign shortly after being elected to open up another leadership election then she should state this now.

It would just paint Labour as a ridiculous mess trying to circumvent and mess around their own members.
 
Would prefer Corbyn to Eagle any day of the week. How on earth is Eagle more electable? How is she going to take charge of the Labour Party with her dithering answers and unclear policies?

The Labour Party needs a strong, witty and decisive leader. Someone like, dare I say it, Cameron - with much better policies of course. The only thing is I can't see anyone who can fulfill that role. Burnham? Balls? Don't have a clue.
 
LennonNL said:
The Labour Party needs a strong, witty and decisive leader. Someone like, dare I say it, Cameron
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C'mon, Len, the man couldn't break wind without consulting a thinktank first. As for 'strong', read 'reckless and prone to expedient u-turns'; as for 'witty', read 'rude'. Still, it's astounding that the man now appears a sober statesman in comparison with his heirs.
 
I'm not even sure if she's supposed to be some sort of interim or stopgap. I think she might just be the only one who wants the job...which highlights how embarrassing and terrible this whole coup is been. Those who back a change in leadership presumably won't want to admit that though, because the thought of Eagle being their best hope is a grim one.
 
LennonNL said:
Would prefer Corbyn to Eagle any day of the week. How on earth is Eagle more electable? How is she going to take charge of the Labour Party with her dithering answers and unclear policies?

The Labour Party needs a strong, witty and decisive leader. Someone like, dare I say it, Cameron - with much better policies of course. The only thing is I can't see anyone who can fulfill that role. Burnham? Balls? Don't have a clue.
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I've been trying to dig out some videos of speeches of potential leaders and I think Owen Smith who is rumoured to be standing is a decent orator.



Watson has had a fair few decent performances but surely the best is his attack on Gove



Or if they want a wider appeal they could always go for the lovely Gloria De Piero



Non of them can cry like Eagle though

 
Smores said:
I've been trying to dig out some videos of speeches of potential leaders and I think Owen Smith who is rumoured to be standing is a decent orator.



Watson has had a fair few decent performances but surely the best is his attack on Gove



Or if they want a wider appeal they could always go for the lovely Gloria De Piero

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For a Corbyn successor what about Clive Lewis?

Someone in this thread doesn't like him, can't remember who
 
The great abstainer talking about holding the right wing Tories to account :lol:

Good to see she's going with the Tory route of "Woman! Look she's a woman. Don't go on that website with her voting record on it. Woman!" politics already.
 
SteveJ said:
C'mon, Len, the man couldn't break wind without consulting a thinktank first. As for 'strong', read 'reckless and prone to expedient u-turns'; as for 'witty', read 'rude'. Still, it's astounding that the man now appears a sober statesman in comparison with his heirs.
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Don't get me wrong, Cameron is a grade A cnut. For the short term, though, Labour could use an electable fella like him.
 
LennonNL said:
Don't get me wrong, Cameron is a grade A cnut. For the short term, though, Labour could use an electable fella like him.
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True. Sad reflection of our time though.
 
Ubik said:
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His speech at Compass last week was actually very good. He seems acutely aware of the threat to Labour's future, something the current leadership seem to either willfully ignore or simply not understand, both of which are appalling. And he can appeal to the current membership in a way many other suggestions will not. No idea how he is viewed within the PLP though. Plus it's probably too soon for him.
 
Untied said:
For a Corbyn successor what about Clive Lewis?

Someone in this thread doesn't like him, can't remember who
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If it was just about leadership I'd agree he's a good speaker but I think he's too close to momentum to be elected. It's a power struggle and they won't stop until it's someone away from the 'hard left' (That term really doesn't mean what it should)
 
SteveJ said:
C'mon, Len, the man couldn't break wind without consulting a thinktank first. As for 'strong', read 'reckless and prone to expedient u-turns'; as for 'witty', read 'rude'. Still, it's astounding that the man now appears a sober statesman in comparison with his heirs.
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Isnt this something of a contradiction? Either he is cautious and not inclined to lead, obsessively consulting think tanks. Or he is reckless.

I think I know what you are getting at tho. I would lean towards reckless of the two things you mentioned above, but also very much a disciple of Blair in the sense of being obsessed with the media and perception.
 
Adebesi said:
Isnt this something of a contradiction? Either he is cautious and not inclined to lead, obsessively consulting think tanks. Or he is reckless.

I think I know what you are getting at tho. I would lean towards reckless of the two things you mentioned above, but also very much a disciple of Blair in the sense of being obsessed with the media and perception.
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I was kinda hinting that what the public now views as strength is often plain rudeness and ill-temperedness (particularly regarding Cameron's PMQ performances).
 
SteveJ said:
I was kinda hinting that what the public now views as strength is often plain rudeness and ill-temperedness (particularly regarding Cameron's PMQ performances).
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OK fair enough. I thought you were accusing him of being simultaneously reckless and indecisive. Indecisiveness being a problem for a leader. I dont think he is indecisive, I think he makes bad decisions.
 
I really dont get why people keep calling corbyn unelectable tbh.
Granted his policies are flimsy at best but everyone else looks completely incompetent.
Whether he deserves it or not he seems to be held apart from the standard political class in westminster which everyone is clearly completely sick of and disgusted with.
He looks very, very electable to me tbh,

I dont think that would necessarily end well
but then you look at the alternatives being thrown around and I really struggle to see how corbyn could do a fraction of the damage gove for instance would have.

Options for you guys look pretty grim
 
Labour should have got their house in order before the Tories. Very disappointing.

Hadnt realised Eagle was making her speech as Leadsom resigned and stole all the headlines. I can imagine her office swearing at the news Thick of it Style, she's actually been used in a similar way that Murray is in that programme.
 
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Her dad was a printer and her mum was a seamstress; on that evidence, I think her cousin is probably Marco Rubio.
 


Allies of Jeremy Corbyn should not be calling for a GE right now.
 
How is it that all these shite candidates are leading the parties? Whatever happened to all the smart people becoming MPs? I understand why it happens in the USA because of money but why is it happening in the UK?
 
Mozza said:
Get yer coat
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As long as it's pink. Voters won't notice she's a woman unless we push pink apparently.

I almost feel a tad sorry from her as you can see she's being orchestrated pathetically.
 
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