Nah, he should be made stay and home and watch videos of his performances for the last few years on repeat. Clockwork Orange style.
That'll learn him.
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Nah, he should be made stay and home and watch videos of his performances for the last few years on repeat. Clockwork Orange style.
That'll learn him.
Contradicting myself here. I generally like Gary. His analysis is good and he does talk truths IMO. He was banging the drum about ownership and structure years before INEOS landed
Where I struggle with him…and it’s highlighted more in the overlap…he’ll share his opinion, Keane, Carra and Wright might disagree and then he spends the next 10 minutes trying to convince them to change their minds and come round to his way of thinking. He can’t accept that others might have different opinions.
Where I struggle with him…and it’s highlighted more in the overlap…he’ll share his opinion, Keane, Carra and Wright might disagree and then he spends the next 10 minutes trying to convince them to change their minds and come round to his way of thinking. He can’t accept that others might have different opinions.
Do you not see the difference in going to a basketball or acting the superstar when you’re not. I love rashford, him and Bruno are my two favourite players but bringing up and doing silly poses while in America points towards him thinking he’s better or more of a start than he thinks he is in my opinion and he should just knuckle down and regain some form
Super annoying. That's why I never watch anything when Gary is on anymore. It's always about him.
That wasn’t really my point.
Surprised he’s being criticised for his comments on Rashford and Casemiro, he’s coming at it from what was acceptable in his day and what good looks like from his perspective, and he’s absolutely right. If we were playing well it would be fine but given how we’re performing and change in manager, it was an odd decision.
Neville is criticised on here when he doesn’t say anything about certain players and now being criticised when he does. Weird.
I thought Amorim answered the question very well in fairness too.
Neville is criticised on here when he doesn’t say anything about certain players and now being criticised when he does. Weird.
I thought Amorim answered the question very well in fairness too.
I'll preface this by saying I haven't actually seen any pictures or videos of Rashford at this basketball game, I don't know what he was wearing or how he was acting. But what should he have been wearing and how should he have acted on this trip? Can you give me a breakdown of appropriate attire for a guy in his current form?
If people were criticizing the fact he flew to America while he should have been resting and might suffer some jetlag then fair enough. But it's the usual old guff about clothes and how they're acting. Comes across as old men shouting at clouds. While from what I've seen how the likes of Lingard, Pogba, Sancho and Rashford etc dress and act, it wouldn't be my cup of tea. But I also genuinely couldn't give a feck how they dress or act as I doubt it has any real bearing on their performances on the pitch. Lots of young footballers have questionable fashion sense, it comes from having too much money and time on their hands.
In reply to what I’ve underlined, some footballers become stars because they are the best at what they do, some footballers want to be stars because they play football.
I always wanted rashford to be a star because of how well he played football, sadly he’s becoming more tc23 than cr7. Hopefully he can regain some form and his international place back.
Think Amorim dealt with the question fairly.
He speaks well and says the right things. It'll be interesting to see if he can command the respect of the players. That's what will make or break him at Utd.
He speaks well and says the right things. It'll be interesting to see if he can command the respect of the players. That's what will make or break him at Utd.
In his day they were all out on the piss on a regular basis
And they still won the league. You try telling the kids of today that and they won't believe you
Not sure how this answers my question, every kid who dreams of becoming a footballer wants to be a star. You say that like it's a bad thing.
And besides Rashford is a already star, he has been for years, he's a world famous footballer, plays for one of the worlds biggest clubs and is an International for one of the worlds stronger sides.
Circling back our players could all turn upto their local Bingo hall this monday night wearing a Mr Blooby suit, I still don't imagine the clothes they wear have much affect on their performance levels. I've not been following this discussion until today so I've no idea why people are getting themselves worked up about it.
But they were at the top, not 13th with a manager just sacked.
I know. I was replying to a post about what was ‘acceptable’ back in his day.
I was counting his Prem goals.
He is playing like absolute sh1te. The fact he gets subbed off on 60 mins in most games, says it all.
He should be fully focused on football, especially with a new manager inbound. Instead, he flys off to the US risking not being 100% for the managers first week. To me, that shows where his priority is.
What public event should he attend? The way he is player, perhaps a game of darts at his local working mans club. That is his level right now.
Yeah I assumed you were only counting his PL goals to make his stats worse.
I assume you have a scale of events/activities you think players should be allowed to attend based on their form.
4 Goals by November = Darts.
8 goals = ?
12 goals = ?
16 goals = ?
You are free to include his 2 goals in a 7-0 win against Barnsley if you want to pad out his stats!
Rashford is free to attend what ever sporting event he wants. But maybe he should leave after two thirds of the game, as he gets hooked after 60 mins of each United game.
I got no time for a guy like Rashford, who has been shocking for a year and a half now, flying to NYC to attend a basketball game, dripping in jewelry and acting like the big I am. Asking for autographs from Jalen Brunson - now that guy performs game in, game out.
The guy can't even get near the England team anymore. He is not even in the conversation. Is there no shame there? No shame that he can't even get into a Nations League squad?
Maybe he should be working to get back to a decent level of form, especially with a new manager inbound. But no, he decides to go to NYC, knowing he will be in all the papers and get a bunch of criticism for it and give the impression to his new manager that his full focus isnt on his game. To me, that shows he doesn't give a sh1t anymore. He is going down the same route as his mates Sancho and Lingard.
I don't give a shit what players wear or where they go on off days. Tbh, I really don't see anything wrong with that Rashford's attire. He can wear anything that he's comfortable with, as long as it's not vulgar or offensive.
But, as a fan, I do prefer if players showing more enthusiasm and care on the team especially with the new manager is just starting to implement a new system. Especially the likes of Rashford that has been out of form.
But I come to term that these days, young people always prefer that "life - work balance" which often in conflict with values older generation have.
But, as a fan, I do prefer if players showing more enthusiasm and care on the team especially with the new manager is just starting to implement a new system. Especially the likes of Rashford that has been out of form.
But I come to term that these days, young people always prefer that "life - work balance" which often in conflict with values older generation have.
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You are free to include his 2 goals in a 7-0 win against Barnsley if you want to pad out his stats!
Rashford is free to attend what ever sporting event he wants. But maybe he should leave after two thirds of the game, as he gets hooked after 60 mins of each United game.
I got no time for a guy like Rashford, who has been shocking for a year and a half now, flying to NYC to attend a basketball game, dripping in jewelry and acting like the big I am. Asking for autographs from Jalen Brunson - now that guy performs game in, game out.
The guy can't even get near the England team anymore. He is not even in the conversation. Is there no shame there? No shame that he can't even get into a Nations League squad?
Maybe he should be working to get back to a decent level of form, especially with a new manager inbound. But no, he decides to go to NYC, knowing he will be in all the papers and get a bunch of criticism for it and give the impression to his new manager that his full focus isnt on his game. To me, that shows he doesn't give a sh1t anymore. He is going down the same route as his mates Sancho and Lingard.
Proper meltdown mate, fair play.
Not even remotely a meltdown. A viewpoint that has been shared by many ex footballers and fans alike.
Proper meltdown mate, fair play.
Oh yes it was.
Maybe you can answer the questions the others don't seem to want to.
What would have been appropriate attire to wear to that Basketball game?
Or how many goals and assists should he have at this stage to be allowed to dress whatever way he did?
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Something a little more low key.
More than he has, obvs.
It's a load of nonsense to be honest.
Absolutely
Dalot vs Mazraoui vs Neville.
Rank them.
Rank them.
Can he keep his mouth shut for a second? Speaking weirdly negative about the team again, why?
He’s a full time broadcaster now and knows where his bread is buttered
I imagine he's on Co comms today. Urhh.
His punditry is so lazy.
Just stated that we've just had an awful transfer window.
Zirkzee is questionable but literally everyone else we signed I was and still am happy with. Mazraoui has been great, Ugarte is finding his feet after it was quite obvious ETH didn't want him and looks strong every time he plays now. De Ligt has been okay and Yoro has barely played so it's unfair to judge but was bought as potential.
He's a clown.
Also sticking up for his mate Ashworth...
Just stated that we've just had an awful transfer window.
Zirkzee is questionable but literally everyone else we signed I was and still am happy with. Mazraoui has been great, Ugarte is finding his feet after it was quite obvious ETH didn't want him and looks strong every time he plays now. De Ligt has been okay and Yoro has barely played so it's unfair to judge but was bought as potential.
He's a clown.
Also sticking up for his mate Ashworth...
We spent 200 million pounds on five players. Only one of them (Mazraoui) has established himself as a nailed-on starter. One (Zirkzee) looks like a flop. One has been underwhelming at best (Ugarte). It’s not looking like a great window thus far.
He’s not commentating today is he?
I think Ugarte has been great.
Hope I'm wrong but I see City absolutely battering us today
Very likely he is.
De Ligt isn't established?
Mazraoui has played one game more than him...Also, Ugarte has been a lot better than underwhelming.
Yoro would also be in the team if he wasn't injured.
Quite didengenous to suggest that it's been a bad window because Zirkzee doesn't look that good initially.
Me too to be fair
What a moron. Now that narrative will be everywhere because even Gary Neville says so.
It's the best window we've had in years, not to mention all the dead wood we shifted and the extent the wage bill has been trimmed.
People look at our league position and assume it's cos our signings have made us worse.