Gary Neville

IRELANDUNITED said:
Relax, it’s not that deep.
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You are so right. 602 games.
Honours: 8 Premier Leagues, 3 FA Cups, 2 League Cups, 2 Champions Leagues, 1 Intercontinental Cup, 1 FIFA Club World Cup
Caps: 85
Have to say though, you know more than everyone else. Shite footballer robbinga living ending up with silverware. Absolute shambles. Well spotted.
 
Addled said:
You are so right. 602 games.
Honours: 8 Premier Leagues, 3 FA Cups, 2 League Cups, 2 Champions Leagues, 1 Intercontinental Cup, 1 FIFA Club World Cup
Caps: 85
Have to say though, you know more than everyone else. Shite footballer robbinga living ending up with silverware. Absolute shambles. Well spotted.
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Ah yeah, I’m probably wrong. Like I said, it’s not that deep.
 
Its been how many years (13?) that Nevilles been commentating and its the first time hes made that noise for us :lol:
 
I quite like how he said the challenge on Hojlund was a penalty and pushed Mike Dean into a corner where the ex-ref ended up sounding like a prick. Well in Gary!
 
Insulting another member
IRELANDUNITED said:
Ah yeah, I’m probably wrong. Like I said, it’s not that deep.
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Ah yeah, you are definitely wrong. Like everyone said you know feck all about the game.
Hush now, I think your Ma is calling you. It’s time for bed. You have school on the morning where you will be able to laugh at all the City fans without understanding why. Sleep well little man.
 
He was defending Amorin's decision to drop Rashford and Garnacho during the post match segment that I watched.

So what's he said wrong now?
 
Addled said:
Ah yeah, you are definitely wrong. Like everyone said you know feck all about the game.
Hush now, I think your Ma is calling you. It’s time for bed. You have school on the morning where you will be able to laugh at all the City fans without understanding why. Sleep well little man.
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And they call Neville harsh.
 
Addled said:
Ah yeah, you are definitely wrong. Like everyone said you know feck all about the game.
Hush now, I think your Ma is calling you. It’s time for bed. You have school on the morning where you will be able to laugh at all the City fans without understanding why. Sleep well little man.
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I think you’re making too much out of this. It’s a f*cking football forum, no need to get personal. Whether you agree with what I said or not, there’s no need to get personal
 
Addled said:
Ah yeah, you are definitely wrong. Like everyone said you know feck all about the game.
Hush now, I think your Ma is calling you. It’s time for bed. You have school on the morning where you will be able to laugh at all the City fans without understanding why. Sleep well little man.
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Jesus, bit much.
 
Alex99 said:
It was certainly a change from him being absolutely desperate to see Hojlund sent off earlier in the match for the handbags with Walker.
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Didn't he start by saying he didn't know, and then piled into Walker for his reaction?

I guess because he didn't immediately on one replay identify it perfectly it means he wanted Hojlund sent off, and we should only judge his intent on that first look and ignore everything else.

Pathetic how this forum are so sensitive to his commentary, either too critical, or not critical enough, or critical of the wrong people. You had people going on about him being unhappy Utd were winning after his reaction to the Amad goal. I mean, c'mon the feck.
 
Bobski said:
Didn't he start by saying he didn't know, and then piled into Walker for his reaction?

I guess because he didn't immediately on one replay identify it perfectly it means he wanted Hojlund sent off, and we should only judge his intent on that first look and ignore everything else.

Pathetic how this forum are so sensitive to his commentary, either too critical, or not critical enough, or critical of the wrong people. You had people going on about him being unhappy Utd were winning after his reaction to the Amad goal. I mean, c'mon the feck.
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He was still going "it depends on if he made the movement" after we'd seen the replay confirming no movement, and possibly even after VAR had confirmed no action.

It was also weird enough in the first place for him to be going so hard on the idea that Hojlund had just headbutted Walker.
 
M15 Red. said:
He was defending Amorin's decision to drop Rashford and Garnacho during the post match segment that I watched.

So what's he said wrong now?
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How about ‘that summer window they had is one of the worst ever, not quite Antony and Casemiro, but it’s getting there’.

This was in reference to Yoro, Mazraoui, De Ligt, Ugarte and Zirkzee. The man is an absolute moron.
 
Rozay said:
How about ‘that summer window they had is one of the worst ever, not quite Antony and Casemiro, but it’s getting there’.

This was in reference to Yoro, Mazraoui, De Ligt, Ugarte and Zirkzee. The man is an absolute moron.
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When did he say that? I'm quite sure he said the window was good and it was done in a professional way when talking about the Dan Ashworth sacking last week.
 
Addled said:
Ah yeah, you are definitely wrong. Like everyone said you know feck all about the game.
Hush now, I think your Ma is calling you. It’s time for bed. You have school on the morning where you will be able to laugh at all the City fans without understanding why. Sleep well little man.
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Car crash of a post :o
 
gaffs said:
When did he say that? I'm quite sure he said the window was good and it was done in a professional way when talking about the Dan Ashworth sacking last week.
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At some point in the second half yesterday. If he did indeed say the complete opposite just last week, then it only serves to underline that he’s an idiot and should not commentate on our games as he just spreads mindless and harmful negativity.
 
I only saw G Nev after the game on Sky in studio, I watched game on another channel without him commenting, I find him infuriating OK he's ex pro knows more than most but he comes out with some bollox, in his podcast after came he even said the game was woefull at times? Now I watched it and it was nowhere near that, at anytime, few mistakes from both sides maybe.
I know he doesn't want to come across as utd Bias but the rest do Carragher does Redknapp does so sometimes give them some credit when it's deserved. He did fight his corner with Richards about Rashford though that was correct.
 
Hughie77 said:
I only saw G Nev after the game on Sky in studio, I watched game on another channel without him commenting, I find him infuriating OK he's ex pro knows more than most but he comes out with some bollox, in his podcast after came he even said the game was woefull at times? Now I watched it and it was nowhere near that, at anytime, few mistakes from both sides maybe.
I know he doesn't want to come across as utd Bias but the rest do Carragher does Redknapp does so sometimes give them some credit when it's deserved. He did fight his corner with Richards about Rashford though that was correct.
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I mean it was woeful. Incredibly boring and players from both teams not taking risks. He isn’t the only one to say it. MOTD, The Athletic’s daily podcast, the writeups in the press. I was watching it with neutral fans and the only people enjoying the game were me and the three United fans I was with, the other six were bored out of their minds.
 
Rozay said:
At some point in the second half yesterday. If he did indeed say the complete opposite just last week, then it only serves to underline that he’s an idiot and should not commentate on our games as he just spreads mindless and harmful negativity.
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I may have been slightly off with what i said. He did say the window was smooth in terms of how it was done. But saying it now looks a little questionable......

'That transfer window, I thought it was quite a smooth transfer window for United as they got the players in quite quickly, and I was quite enthused,' he told Sky Sports.

'But when you actually look at the performances of the players who have come in the last few months it’s looking as bad a transfer window at the moment… it’s looking highly questionable we can say.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...United-200m-transfer-window-questionable.html

I agree, it is a bit strong to call it a "bad transfer window" when you have Yoro and Ugate just starting to find their feet in the team, Maz looking good and MDL looking ok. Zirksee is questionable, but we have to remember, these 5 players were signed with Ten Hag and a 433 in mind. I very much doubt Amorim would have signed these 5 players as his system would have needed players for different roles.

Only time will tell if the window has been a good one.
 
Kind of find it interesting that Keane is far harsher on United and their players than Neville has ever been, yet doesn't come in for any stick from United fans for it.

I think both are good pundits. Do the get everything right? No. But lets all look at each others RedCafe posts. Im sure we have all given out takes that look very dumb now.
 
Was great to hear him say the Rasmus one was a foul and then also speak some truth about how Rashford and Garnacho have to respond.

I love Nev, but it's the overbearing attempts to sound neutral that do my head in. Like, constantly repeating on TV and on his pod that we were poor and didn't deserve the win, that's just not accurate. I can't tell if he genuinely thought that, or it was another attempt to try sounding impartial.
 
gaffs said:
Kind of find it interesting that Keane is far harsher on United and their players than Neville has ever been, yet doesn't come in for any stick from United fans for it.

I think both are good pundits. Do the get everything right? No. But lets all look at each others RedCafe posts. Im sure we have all given out takes that look very dumb now.
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Is Keane a good pundit? It honestly never seems like he has anything interesting to say. Like I said, his rant on the United players discussing tactics before the 2nd half was painful to listen to.
 
I don't like the way he continues to say "these players" as if they're all guilty of slipping as low as the likes of Rashford and Sancho. Some of these players like Ugarte, Mazraoui and De Ligt are only in the door and doing well.
 
gaffs said:
Kind of find it interesting that Keane is far harsher on United and their players than Neville has ever been, yet doesn't come in for any stick from United fans for it.

I think both are good pundits. Do the get everything right? No. But lets all look at each others RedCafe posts. Im sure we have all given out takes that look very dumb now.
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Neville wouldn't get half as much stick if he was just in the studio like Roy is. He's awful on commentary. I've no idea why they persist with him.
 
gaffs said:
Kind of find it interesting that Keane is far harsher on United and their players than Neville has ever been, yet doesn't come in for any stick from United fans for it.

I think both are good pundits. Do the get everything right? No. But lets all look at each others RedCafe posts. Im sure we have all given out takes that look very dumb now.
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I think it's the comms moreso than the punditry that winds people up. Neville just tries to overcompensate. He's also just not a great commentator. Much better in the studio.
 
Vault Dweller said:
Was great to hear him say the Rasmus one was a foul and then also speak some truth about how Rashford and Garnacho have to respond.

I love Nev, but it's the overbearing attempts to sound neutral that do my head in. Like, constantly repeating on TV and on his pod that we were poor and didn't deserve the win, that's just not accurate. I can't tell if he genuinely thought that, or it was another attempt to try sounding impartial.
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The Walker/Hojlund incident, his first reaction was ‘oooh, I think that’s a bad one. I did that once to Steve McManaman in a derby and I was off.’
 
Withnail said:
Neville wouldn't get half as much stick if he was just in the studio like Roy is. He's awful on commentary. I've no idea why they persist with him.
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Rex Banner said:
I think it's the comms moreso than the punditry that winds people up. Neville just tries to overcompensate. He's also just not a great commentator. Much better in the studio.
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Is there any pundit / commentator that doesn't get stick?
 
gaffs said:
Is there any pundit / commentator that doesn't get stick?
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I mean you compared the treatment of Keane to Neville and we've both explained why we think it is.

I'm not sure why you're now lumping commentary and punditry together in your response.

A lot of people think Neville is fine on punditry and quite poor on commentary.
 
Withnail said:
I mean you compared the treatment of Keane to Neville and we've both explained why we think it is.

I'm not sure why you're now lumping commentary and punditry together in your response.

A lot of people think Neville is fine on punditry and quite poor on commentary.
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Are you saying the consensus is that everyone thinks that Neville is fine on pundit?

This is a 178 page thread ffs, with hundreds of posts criticizing him as a pundit and interviewer. First post...

jymufc20 said:
Just finished watching the match and get an advert of Gary brown nosing Klopp on a couch in what i can only assume is in Klopps office at melwood.
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Rado_N said:
I can't stand his shitbag punditry and baity Twitter posts.
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I could go on.

So it is clearly not just his commentary that people have an issue with.

IMO, people have a particular issue with Gary Neville. They hate the fact that he is complimentary towards other clubs and can't stand it with he says something negative about United. Does Keane get that same hate? I think not. Is there even a Keane TV Pundit thread?

People seem to think he should act like is us on a Man United fan channel.

No one is going to agree with everything he or anyone says, or how he interprets the game or any on/off field situation. But is he wildly wrong on much? I don't think so.

Football fans are too thin skinned. Don't take what a pundit, commentator or TV personality says to heart.
 
gaffs said:
Are you saying the consensus is that everyone thinks that Neville is fine on pundit?

This is a 178 page thread ffs, with hundreds of posts criticizing him as a pundit and interviewer. First post...



Another...


I could go on.

So it is clearly not just his commentary that people have an issue with.

IMO, people have a particular issue with Gary Neville. They hate the fact that he is complimentary towards other clubs and can't stand it with he says something negative about United. Does Keane get that same hate? I think not. Is there even a Keane TV Pundit thread?

People seem to think he should act like is us on a Man United fan channel.

No one is going to agree with everything he or anyone says, or how he interprets the game or any on/off field situation. But is he wildly wrong on much? I don't think so.

Football fans are too thin skinned. Don't take what a pundit, commentator or TV personality says to heart.
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You compared Keane to Neville which isn't like for like.

And as for the first few pages of the thread most comments slagged off the OP for over reacting.

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jymufc20 said:
I really can't believe nobody agrees with me, i can't be that drunk surely ?
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I quite like Gary. Is there anything to be said for another Marcus Rashford thread?
 
Withnail said:
You compared Keane to Neville which isn't like for like.

And as for the first few pages of the thread most comments slagged off the OP for over reacting.

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Comparing Keane to Neville is fair. They are both pundits. I dont think what they say is vastly different in terms of team performance. Major difference is that Gary is more willing to speak on the management of the club.

And the other 175 pages? Why 175 pages if the consensus is that he is a fine pundit, shit commentator?
 
I think that a proper / serious Premier League pundit, should have a good level of knowledge about all 20 teams in it, and not just the 'big 6'.

A lot of pundits, including the likes of Neville and Keane and probably Carragher as well (though he is more clued up and clearly does more research than the other two), are 'stunted' and only seem to be comfortable when talking about rinse and repeat topics involving the big 6 clubs. They seem pretty clueless about everyone else - that main Sky gang would be utterly embarrassing and out of their depth if they tried to have a in-depth discussion about the likes of Bournemouth and Palace.
 
Rozay said:
The Walker/Hojlund incident, his first reaction was ‘oooh, I think that’s a bad one. I did that once to Steve McManaman in a derby and I was off.’
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I do think he's often guilty of seeing something live, making a snap decision and comment, then sees a replay and doubles down on it, even if it's wrong. It's almost like he wants to be so quick saying something rather than just waiting for a clear view on what actually happened.
 
He commentates exactly how I imagine Samuel Luckhurst would if he commentated on United games.
 
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