F1 2023 Season

I bet it's going to rain and they're going to delay it even further.
 
11101 said:
He has the consistency and speed. Does he have the engineering knowhow and presence to drive a team to build a title winning car from scratch? Nobody knows yet. Just staying with RB and winning x championships in a row from here won't add anything to his legacy from this point forward though.

Two ways to enter the GOAT conversation in motorsport. Win multiple titles with different cars, building those cars up and developing them into winners. Like Schumacher and Senna. Or win in multiple disciplines. Like Hill and Alonso.
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Did you mean schmacher and hamilton as senna only won his titles with mclaren (before his death).
 
11101 said:
He has the consistency and speed. Does he have the engineering knowhow and presence to drive a team to build a title winning car from scratch? Nobody knows yet. Just staying with RB and winning x championships in a row from here won't add anything to his legacy from this point forward though.

Two ways to enter the GOAT conversation in motorsport. Win multiple titles with different cars, building those cars up and developing them into winners. Like Schumacher and Senna. Or win in multiple disciplines. Like Hill and Alonso.
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Win in multiple disciplines like Nigel fecking mansell. Back to back with horrendous injuries to his foot and back.
 
Heres a stat that will probably never be matched or bettered. Fangio has 4 teams. Mental. No one is on three. Did anyone come close with a third team?

Drivers to have won WDC with more than one constructor:

Michael Schumacher (Benetton and Ferarri)

Jackie Stewart (Matra and Tyrell)

Graham Hill (Lotus and BRM)

Alain Prost (Williams and McLaren)

Nelson Piquet (Williams and Brabham)

Emerson Fittipaldi (McLaren and Lotus)

Niki Lauda (McLaren and Ferarri)

Jack Brabham (Brabham and Cooper)

Juan Manuel Fangio (Alfa Romeo, Maserati, Ferarri, Mercedes)

Lewis Hamilton (McLaren and Mercedes)
 
dinostar77 said:
Did you mean schmacher and hamilton as senna only won his titles with mclaren (before his death).
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Senna is a special case. He was insane with his attention to detail in developing the car.

I also think he would have won in 1994. He'd been on pole in every race, once Williams got the quirks ironed out Damon Hill of all people was 1 point off. Senna would have stormed it.
 
pacifictheme said:
Win in multiple disciplines like Nigel fecking mansell. Back to back with horrendous injuries to his foot and back.
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Until I watch the documentary about him last week , I never realised just how hard a F1 career he had.
He was a stunning driver and it was a travesty he only one 1 WC, he should have had at least 3 and then to go on and be the only reigning F1 Champion to win at another motorsport is phenomenal and like you say with painful back and foot injuries.
 
I don't think nowadays that drivers have as much hands on input opportunity as they did in the time of Schumacher and before. The teams are so much larger now and the amount of engineering using high tech goes well beyond any single person's input other than smaller adjustments. The much stricter regulations dont exactly allow for teams to literally take a hammer or wrench to things. I remember moments in the 90s when they literally cut things or taped things from or onto the car.

Having said that, to think drivers like Max had no role in getting RB to where they are today seems daft. I watched quite a few interviews with RB engineers and other staff and it's interesting to hear how much time he (but also the other drivers) seemingly spend at the factory to test things. Not to mention the free practice sessions of course.
 
Saying they may delay because of rain. FFS
There's safety then theres way too risk averse

Just have them all start on inters or wets or something

If they can't race in the rain...
 
pauldyson1uk said:
Until I watch the documentary about him last week , I never realised just how hard a F1 career he had.
He was a stunning driver and it was a travesty he only one 1 WC, he should have had at least 3 and then to go on and be the only reigning F1 Champion to win at another motorsport is phenomenal and like you say with painful back and foot injuries.
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Which doc pauldy?
 
So July has the second highest rainfall in Spa while April has the lowest. So of course we race here in July.
 
Sprint start delayed
The FIA say the start of the Sprint has been delayed as the rain has started bucketing down on the grid.
There's no timeframe given for how long this delay will be at the moment.

FFS knew this would happen, FIA being way over zelous.
It used to tae a huge munt of rain to even stop and race now it seem even the threat of rain is enough.

who remember when F1 used to be about raw speed and raced in the rain
 
This is so utterly stupid. The Sprint Race clearly isnt going to be happening anytime soon and starting under a Safety Car is pointless anyway. Doesnt look anywhere near safe enough to race under green flags.
 
Ahmer Baig said:
So July has the second highest rainfall in Spa while April has the lowest. So of course we race here in July.
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Makes zero sense to me as well. You think after that fiasco 2 years ago they would have looked at a different time altogether. Its not as its exactly a new thing to rain at Spa.
 
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