Not so much fun for Checo this year.
F1 2023 Season
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
So, basically Mercedes have quicker race car this year than Ferrari easily. Not qualifying wise though. Even Alpines are somewhere there, they have more podiums than Ferrari this year.
Very frustrating year as a Ferrari fan. They are arguably somewhere between 4th- 5th best car on the grid.
Very frustrating year as a Ferrari fan. They are arguably somewhere between 4th- 5th best car on the grid.
Alonso and Ocon sharing podium.
Pretty boring race apart from a bit of rain that spiced it up for a short while.
Max was never in danger of not winning, Alonso a decent 2nd and Ocon with a cracking 3rd.
Ferrari being Ferrari .
Merc's looked better than previous races, but FFS both of them are such moaners, Lewis moaning the track was dangerous and Russell waning to be let though on Lewis, just fecking drive.
Max was never in danger of not winning, Alonso a decent 2nd and Ocon with a cracking 3rd.
Ferrari being Ferrari .
Merc's looked better than previous races, but FFS both of them are such moaners, Lewis moaning the track was dangerous and Russell waning to be let though on Lewis, just fecking drive.
Max seems to have other interests but I would love to see him in another car to try and do what Seb couldn't do.
God sport is boring these days. The same feckers win week after week
Monaco GP Result
Aston Martin and Mercedes separated by a single point in the constructors. Poor Alonso is carrying that team.
well... on to a (hopefully) proper race in Catalunya.
well... on to a (hopefully) proper race in Catalunya.
Is daddy Stroll going to have a decision to make soon?
Not usually a fan of Monaco but this weekend has been my favourite of the season I think.
He will Alonso first before he even think about replace his mediocre son.
Muted celebrations at AM.
AM will be wondering for a long time what if about that brutal dry tyre call. When you have your shot you take it.
AM will be wondering for a long time what if about that brutal dry tyre call. When you have your shot you take it.
Thanks Lewis…. fastest lap @ 33/1 
OK week for my fantasy league
9 out of 10 top 10 , but with only Max in correct place.
9 out of 10 top 10 , but with only Max in correct place.
He's shameless.Russell really trying to blagg his way passed Hamilton here...
I do rate Leclerc, but it's clear to me that he just isn't in the elite bracket. To be fair, there aren't many on the grid that are, but it just feels like his season hasn't even started yet. Just another meh race from him and the team.
Ferrari are not blameless here of course, and I think his contract is up next year, so it'll be interesting to see what he does. He just seems exasperated with them at times
Ferrari are not blameless here of course, and I think his contract is up next year, so it'll be interesting to see what he does. He just seems exasperated with them at times
Yep. Was looking at the schedule and we have a nice run of tracks. There are too many street tracks, IMO. We need to bin some of them off
He’s the best qualifying driver on the grid, I think that’s clear. But he’s never won a race where he’s not been on pole. Just doesn’t do it in the clutch situations and makes too many mistakes. He’s a great driver but unlikely to win anything at Ferrari.
Only thing you can criticise Leclerc is if he stays in Ferrari if any of Red Bull or Mercedes come knocking, because even Verstappen wouldn't win anything with Ferrari.
He's had his mistakes this season, but it's nowhere near top car, and last year he's had 8/10 season easily which would win him the title if he had the best car. I mean, he finished P2 ahead of Perez last season in a much slower car, you can argue that overall Mercedes were on similar level to Ferrari too, and yet he smashed both Russel and Hamilton too.
Not exactly sure why he deserves so much mention today, despite the grid penalty(probably not his fault either, he's had impressive qualifying lap btw), he again finished ahead of his teammate who was ahead of him at the start. Mercedes gave their drivers better strategy once again, and they look to have far better race car than Ferrari anyway.
He's had his mistakes this season, but it's nowhere near top car, and last year he's had 8/10 season easily which would win him the title if he had the best car. I mean, he finished P2 ahead of Perez last season in a much slower car, you can argue that overall Mercedes were on similar level to Ferrari too, and yet he smashed both Russel and Hamilton too.
Not exactly sure why he deserves so much mention today, despite the grid penalty(probably not his fault either, he's had impressive qualifying lap btw), he again finished ahead of his teammate who was ahead of him at the start. Mercedes gave their drivers better strategy once again, and they look to have far better race car than Ferrari anyway.
It’s why they should have told Leclerc to stay in line and be a second driver while learning a year or two from Seb.
But politics rule at Ferrari and it’s why they’re still going to be shit for the next few years.
It wouldn't have changed anything. Even if they had pitted for the Inters the first time he would not have made up 9 or 10 seconds in one lap.
Just watched the replay on C4, fascinating GP with the rain!
Just watched the GP, rain helped a snorefest to wake up for abit. Ferrari are a fecking mess. Bringing in sainz to cover lewis when he could have gone longer as he was on the hards, to overcut ocon. No wonder sainz was pissed.
Anyway always glad to get the worse GP of the season out of the way.
Anyway always glad to get the worse GP of the season out of the way.
F1 is dead. They bent the rules mid race to choose the winner 2 seasons ago. Then changed the rules to give that same team a massive advantage. Now that team is winning every race. Boring.
Mercedes won 7 WDCs in a row. Red Bull are on their third, and people are already crying about it.
Only cause Max doesnt have a teammate who can really push him. Hamilton had Rosberg. Less said about Bottas the better.
Stick any of leclerc, russell, hamilton, alonso, norris in the other RedBull seat and you'll have a much more entertaining inter team dynamic straight away. Plus max would be put under pressure. Sergio Perez just isnt of the level required.
Its not Red Bulls fault that they nailed the regs and mercedes and ferrari screwed them up.
Unfortuntely the cost cap has become the new token system and is stopping teams from trying to close the gap to RedBull.
Lets see if the FIA do something with the rules to slow RB down as they did to Merecedes in 2020.
Bottas years were terrible.
Norris isn’t world championship material at all
Trying to slow them down wouldn’t gave the same effect because of the cost cap, even in the merc dominated years they had a good designed car just the engine was a shit box.
I know. Max has had ONE season where he has dominated, and that was last season. Domination is never fun in the sport, but people are going on as if he's been doing it for 10 years. Now he may well go on and do just that but, again, it's been ONE season. And the season before that was one of the best seasons in recent memory. A season that brought in a lot of new viewers.
As is always the case, and everyone does it, when it's not your guy that dominating, it's a different story. The sport is gone, bin it off, it's not the same, etc.
It's really hard to judge Norris, to be fair. I rate him quite highly, but that car is sooo shit, it's hard to get a good read on him.
the Mercedes years were wank for the sport too but it’s an Irish forum with a lot of brits so you’ll see more have an affinity for Lewis during those years. It doesn’t help either that Horner is a cock, marko is a cock and somehow max is a bigger cock than Lewis so they’re just a really unlikeable team unless you are a fan of them. There are plenty of teams that I don’t like but they’re just boring so it doesn’t matter. Red bull are extremely unlikeable so that’s probably why you get the annoyance more than you do for Mercedes and Lewis.
Again though, it just comes down to if it's your man dominating or not, as opposed to any objective truth about who's worse than who. I find Toto Wolff to be infinitely worse than anyone who works at Red Bull. Max can be a right knob, Hamilton has spent years being a knob. Max is typically more abrupt and explicit in being a knob, whereas Hamilton is a lot more snide. And the two of them like a good whinge. Both of them will turn people off unless you're a fan of them.
In my case, I'm a fan of Max, so when he has moments where he's a bit of a dick, it doesn't bother me too much. Whereas I dislike Hamiton quite a bit. That's all there is to it.
Also, I always found it strange to root for a specific team. I've always been this way in all the years I've watched the sport. Personally, I couldn't give a shite about Red Bull. It's Verstappen who I root for. I always found it a little odd to support a car manufacturer. It's the personalities and the style of the drivers for me. If Max was at Mercedes, then I'd want them to smash it. Just always found it odd to be vehemently for or against a specific car manufacturer.
Anybody catch the Indy 500? I saw the finish on Twitter, that weaving, yikes! Great finish though.
This car was built around him and it’s a dog. Safe to say that I don’t think he actually knows how to setup a car or give proper feedback that engineers can work with. Piastri will be regretting his decision to piss alpine off while they throw everything behind Lando…
Im just happy to see Zac Brown (much Gunther) look like absolute arse clowns this year. How Gunther still has a job is beyond me.
How is weaving like that allowed !! At 200 mph it is an accident waiting to happen, at that speed a massive one,
If they keep sprint races, make them spec cars that are worth half points to the WDC.
I guess I just don't like IndyCar (from the little I've seen). I mean, VeeKay said before the race his strategy was to stay second for as long as needed to save fuel and when you see the races in general the car in front often is a sitting duck so I can see why he'd go for that strategy. If he hadn't made that mistake in the pits there's a good chance it'd have worked. And because of that you see stupid shite like the insane weaving. And then there's the ovals.. they're even worse than the F1 street circuits!
No obviously its legal but its really dumb to allow it.