Exactly what I think, you hit the nail in your first line,well 3rd word actually.
F1 2021 Season
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No, I was mentioning the fact that Verstappen has had more penalty points than Lewis since 2015. I was replying to a poster who asked, why...
Exactly.
You know it's bad when posters are asking why their opinion is laughable. Beyond comprehension.
Like others have posted I think when Lewis retires, Max will be in prime position to take over the crown. He is a good driver.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...-ahead-of-crucial.5EbC3pDYAoHV5cPJSJm5Xj.html
Horner still crying.
Horner still crying.
Red Bull gives him whinge.
Horner can't have it both ways, he's happy to see Verstappen do it. Mark Hughes knows what he is talking about.
I want to see a break down of these losses because that figure of £1.3m sounds like bullshit, he's looking to get some sort of relief and maybe it's possible to hide some other funding for development during this cap.
Lets get off the Lewis v Max, but this one is is not much less controversial.
Saudi Arabia will host its very first Grand Prix in December of this year, but F1 could return to Jeddah just months later if the venue takes over Melbourne's tentative early 2022 slot.
This year's Australian Grand Prix, which was canceled in 2020 following the onslaught of the Covid pandemic, was pushed back to late November and then canceled again as the country projected that its border controls and travel restrictions would still be in force come next fall.
Melbourne's organisers are hopeful of finally returning their event to the calendar in 2022, but shifting the race towards the end of the season would likely eliminate the risk of disruption as the coronavirus crisis will have hopefully subsided by then.
With F1's 2022 season expected to start once again in Bahrain, it would make logistical sense to slot in Jeddah after Sakhir, with F1 therefore kicking off its campaign with two rounds of racing in the Middle East.
The plan is being promoted by the chairman of the Saudi Automobile and Motorcycle Federation, Prince Khalid Bin Sultan Al Faisal.
"For us as a promoter we prefer not to be the last races," he said, quoted by Motorsport.com.
"Teams can do good really in the first races and then the other races have become not so interesting, as a promoter.
"We wanted to have race in the beginning [of the season] but in the time we had to do the work for the track and prepare the track, we couldn't have a race in 2021 at the beginning of the year.
"Our decision was to have a race at the end of 2021, or [wait to] have an early race in 2022. Our decision was we wanted the race in 2021.
"So we are now discussing with F1 about what is best for us to have our race in 2022, and hopefully we can get to an agreement."
Finally, Saudi Arabia has expressed an interest in hosting F1's third Sprint Qualifying trial. F1 rolled out the new format at Silverstone and the concept will be tested a second time at Monza.
"I was there in Silverstone last weekend and I really enjoyed it as a spectator and as a promoter," said Prince Khalid.
"I think it's good. You have more races to see, more action on Saturday. We would love to be one of the countries that had the sprint race.
"The decision now is F1's and we will see. Is it going to be another country, with three countries in Europe, or will the Middle East will be one of them? I would love to see it in Saudi."
Saudi Arabia will host its very first Grand Prix in December of this year, but F1 could return to Jeddah just months later if the venue takes over Melbourne's tentative early 2022 slot.
This year's Australian Grand Prix, which was canceled in 2020 following the onslaught of the Covid pandemic, was pushed back to late November and then canceled again as the country projected that its border controls and travel restrictions would still be in force come next fall.
Melbourne's organisers are hopeful of finally returning their event to the calendar in 2022, but shifting the race towards the end of the season would likely eliminate the risk of disruption as the coronavirus crisis will have hopefully subsided by then.
With F1's 2022 season expected to start once again in Bahrain, it would make logistical sense to slot in Jeddah after Sakhir, with F1 therefore kicking off its campaign with two rounds of racing in the Middle East.
The plan is being promoted by the chairman of the Saudi Automobile and Motorcycle Federation, Prince Khalid Bin Sultan Al Faisal.
"For us as a promoter we prefer not to be the last races," he said, quoted by Motorsport.com.
"Teams can do good really in the first races and then the other races have become not so interesting, as a promoter.
"We wanted to have race in the beginning [of the season] but in the time we had to do the work for the track and prepare the track, we couldn't have a race in 2021 at the beginning of the year.
"Our decision was to have a race at the end of 2021, or [wait to] have an early race in 2022. Our decision was we wanted the race in 2021.
"So we are now discussing with F1 about what is best for us to have our race in 2022, and hopefully we can get to an agreement."
Finally, Saudi Arabia has expressed an interest in hosting F1's third Sprint Qualifying trial. F1 rolled out the new format at Silverstone and the concept will be tested a second time at Monza.
"I was there in Silverstone last weekend and I really enjoyed it as a spectator and as a promoter," said Prince Khalid.
"I think it's good. You have more races to see, more action on Saturday. We would love to be one of the countries that had the sprint race.
"The decision now is F1's and we will see. Is it going to be another country, with three countries in Europe, or will the Middle East will be one of them? I would love to see it in Saudi."
They’ve got most money, they’ll probably get what they want.
I’ll just leave this here
Much improved with that helium filter or whatever it was. Should use more often in coverage when talking to team principals
Agreed, especially for Horner the useless windbag.
FFS Red Bull still at it.
This is ridiculous, does RB not believe in racing anymore?? I wonder if all the previous incidents cause by max can be review again, oh no sorry, I was young and future world champion!! Also, red bull advising what the damage costed was shameful!!
Did you honestly expect anything different from Red Bull? They have no shame and would have used Max's death to sell drinks would that have happened. They use any tool available.
No I did not to be honest, Horner is turning RB in to a bit of a joke.
How funny would it be if they decided that the penalty was too harsh HA HA, but I am sure that Horner and Co will be after a DQ for Lewis
In my opinion it was a 50/50 but so far only 1 driver has been punished. I'd say a 10 place penalty next starting grid should equal the 10s Lewis got
I think they're doing this to try and build a narrative into the next race. Whether that be mind games from RB to Merc/Lewis or whether it's in the event that Lewis is under investigation again, maybe the stewards will be harsher than they perhaps could/should be?
Maybe it's just another example of them trying to appease Max and 'protect their man'
Either way, it's a bit pathetic. We've seen since it happened that the crash is so subjective regards who is completely to blame and I can't see the stewards having anything like enough evidence to make a new ruling
Maybe it's just another example of them trying to appease Max and 'protect their man'
Either way, it's a bit pathetic. We've seen since it happened that the crash is so subjective regards who is completely to blame and I can't see the stewards having anything like enough evidence to make a new ruling
In my opinion it was a 50/50 but so far only 1 driver has been punished. I'd say a 10 place penalty next starting grid should equal the 10s Lewis got
10 mile penalty. Max has to start the race by driving 10 miles in the wrong direction, before he turns around and drives back to the start line to begin his race. In the interest of continuity, he is limited to 10 mph for the duration of his penalty.
I doubt they're now going to say "we fecked up, it was actually Max's fault" but even if they do there's hardly any risk for Red Bull so obviously they're going to try something given they feel they've been hard done by. It's up to the stewards to assess the appeal. Don't really get the meltdown on here given how sure most on here were that Lewis was innocent and it was just a racing incident.
All this is becoming rather silly and childish. I am very disappointed in RB but I guess I should have expected it.
By doing this, whatever the outcome, they are certainly making themselves highly unpopular. I am hopeful that the FIA will not change the initial decision, which I still believe was very harsh. Time to move on Mr Horner. And remember. What goes around comes around to bite you in the backside.
No they wont and it would be wrong if they did, my post was more tounge in cheek to be honest.
My view and I have said this a few times, Racing incident , 60-40 Lewis to blame.In my opinion it was a 50/50 but so far only 1 driver has been punished. I'd say a 10 place penalty next starting grid should equal the 10s Lewis got
Lewis's penalty was about right.
This surely will have a bad effect on RB and I can't see Merc sitting down and taking this. These seems the sort of thing that would piss off Toto. I can imagine Brackley has had a phone call or 2, feck next year lets destroy this lot now.
Horner has lost the plot. Absolutely sad and desperate behaviour.
The Stewards didn't penalise Verstappen at the time.
I think they should review his multiple changes of direction.
It's possible they viewed a DNF as all the penalty he needed but if they are going to get a second bite at the cherry...
Absolutely brilliant. I wish somebody would show this to Horner.
Red Bull are making themselves look very silly right now. All this distraction is going to make it worse for Verstappen IMO, they could end up bottling this title.
He won’t have to wait that long. Lewis won’t retire until 2023 at the earliest and Max is already a better driver than him now.
There is a possibility that the stewards will go more lenient after a review. It's definitely not 100% on Hamilton so I don't think they would even remotely consider a DQ.
How funny would it be if it backfires. This is just bizarre from Red Bull now though - it's almost feeling like a Kevin Keegan moment.
How funny would it be if it backfires. This is just bizarre from Red Bull now though - it's almost feeling like a Kevin Keegan moment.
I don’t hate Lewis. I just find him an overrated driver; but just because I find him overrated doesn’t mean that I hate or even dislike him.
Hamilton benefited massively from being in the right place at the right time in the least competitive era of Formula 1 history.
Senna, Schumacher and Verstappen are better in my view.
There's definitely an odd one out in those 3 drivers. Can't quite place it though.
I'll just leave this here
"You shouldn't really be able to finish ahead of him if you took him out of the race." - Hamilton 2018
Absolutely perfect. Well done.
What have you seen to make you think this is true?
Most likely absolute bias.
As you say, the most overrated driver to win SEVEN world championships.
And as for being in the right place at the right time, who was it who decided to move from McLaren to Mercedes.
He won’t look out of place when he’s 36.
Jenson Button called him the fastest driver ever back in 2019:
https://www.planetf1.com/news/verstappen-is-the-fastest-driver-ever-in-f1/
Fernando Alonso called him the best driver on the grid on numerous occasions:
https://www.planetf1.com/news/alonso-verstappen-is-the-best-driver-in-f1/
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/8404...-the-moment-for-me-he-is-the-best-driver.html
You can laugh at a 23 year old for not having a world title yet when he’s never had an opportunity until this season, but don’t worry, in a decade from now the Verstappen haters will look very stupid.
You do realize that it’s perfectly possible for someone who is great to still be overrated right?
You can be amazing, which Hamilton is, and still be overrated because the fans think you are better than you actually are.
Everything that’s happened this season.