I say zero chance , its either all with pens or none.
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Looking at Max's first run, he actually beats Bottas' final run. So losing his last lap won't matter. Only a grid penalty can change the grid.
I bet they’ll use the fact that multiple cars breached flags as a reason to conclude to either not penalise all of them or decide to simply void those laps - because both of these prevents Max from losing any places.
Good shout, give the all a warnings and points on their super license, they have been punished and dont alter the grid.
Noone seems to have read the article sun tzu posted? Can hardly blame Verstappen for not slowing when he's not been told to slow by the stewards?
" The footage also shows that a double yellow did not appear on Verstappen's steering wheel, which it normally should. Normally, a driver would get a grid penalty for the race if they ignore a yellow flag, but the Dutchman has no need to worry. "
" The footage also shows that a double yellow did not appear on Verstappen's steering wheel, which it normally should. Normally, a driver would get a grid penalty for the race if they ignore a yellow flag, but the Dutchman has no need to worry. "
if you watch it on fast forward he actually speeds up when he sees the yellows.
Why's everyone on here acting as if the FIA are pro RB/Max and anti Merc/Lewis? Bit weird.
What an utter bastard, after killed Lewis in Brazil as well.
I think it's the same way fans think referees have agendas against their team.
If the FIA were anti Merc they would have tinkered with the regs years ago rather than watching them win 7 championships in a row
recent decisions do favour RB
Hasn't it been the other way around for years though? At least that's what I've been reading on the likes of Facebook for what seems like an eternity. Even earlier this season with the FIA changing the pitstop regs for example.
My word.
Couldn't tell you to be honest, i've only seriously started watching f1 since last season. don't think they're pro anyone but I do think RB have been very lucky recently with some decisions.
Yeah same, I've been into cars and bikes for all of my life and so I've always liked F1 and did watch it occasionally but I must say I've only started gradually getting more into it when Verstappen burst on the scene as a fellow Dutchman. Didn't start watching every race I could untill last season and even now I do miss the occasional race when I've more important stuff to do. I rarely watch FP sessions let alone watch the stewards' every move.
Maybe because it is one rule for Max and a different rule for everyone else regarding running cars off the track?
They'll probably find some logic like the second yellow cancels the first one out, and as Bottas & Sainz only drove through 1 they get a penalty.
Ah right so just the one incident then alright cheers
Yeah, just conveniently ignore all the times he's gotten away from being penalised over the years when others have gotten punished for doing less.
You mean the most blatant incident from the most recent race. Yeah, cheers that was the most relevant example.
Plenty of other examples to cite for Maxs dangerous driving. Monza comes to mind as another one of them.
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Everyone knows that FIA stands for Ferrari International Assistance.
They've been tinkering over the years in order to make things more exciting. Can't blame them for the lack of trying, they even covered up Ferrari's illegal engine because they were the closest to being able to match Mercedes.
Are the stewards meetings ongoing?
I think Max had his just in the last few minutes, they might do them all before announcing though, not sure
Think that's likely... id guess we will get an announcement pretty soon though
Yeah they will absolutely announce any punishments (or not) all at the same time.
That was when Ferrari were unpopular winners, now Red Bull and Max are the unpopular ones so everything is apparently in their favour and everyone is out to get Lewis and Merc.
Classic mentality. Funny how those who claim favouritism obviously isn’t a thing when it’s a team they prefer being claimed to be favoured, will immediately claim favouritism when it’s a team they do not.
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The FIA have and always will be inconsistent, borderline incompetent a lot of the time. F1 is so political as well, unless you really know the inner workings you really don’t know anything. Us fans get the media scraps.
The truth is on the track. Everyone can see with their own eyes whats happening and happened. If someone doesn't think Max has evaded punishment many times when others haven't I simply can't explain why other than a short attention span or memory (or that the person just started to watch, which is fair enough). There's really no debate to be had.
There are a lot of hardcore Max fans on here for whom he can do no wrong. Some are so determined to defend him they pretend to be fans of other teams/drivers in an attempt to give their bias more merit.
I really want to like Max, he's so quick, but he's too unlikeable and spoiled, and isn't helped by Red Bull and the FIA letting him get away with stuff all the time.
Will penalties even make much difference? I know it's a difficult track to overtake but still see max managing to squeeze past and take 2nd anyway.
I do think fan influence comes into play now, social media is powerful and it puts pressure on decision makers. Some of the shit that used to happen in the 90’s/00’s I reckon would have blown up Twitter.
Guess it makes the start more difficult as you are in the middle of a pack as there's a good chance you will get tangled up.
Its like when the refs always favoured United, except when they didnt.
Difference of opinion (when asked if overtaking now clear), who'd have thunk it?
Max..
"Yesterday it was all about sharing their opinions and the FIA explaining their process of thought behind it. We came a long way. It was a very long briefing. I think at the end it was pretty clear."
Lewis..
"No. It's not clear. Every driver except for Max - most drivers - was asking for clarity but it wasn't very clear. It's still not clear what the limits of the track are."
Max..
"Yesterday it was all about sharing their opinions and the FIA explaining their process of thought behind it. We came a long way. It was a very long briefing. I think at the end it was pretty clear."
Lewis..
"No. It's not clear. Every driver except for Max - most drivers - was asking for clarity but it wasn't very clear. It's still not clear what the limits of the track are."
2 hours to lights out and they still haven’t decided the grid.
I don’t get it. It’s either one or the other. And if there was a mitigant, it would have been very quick to identify it.
Is this even a thing
Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere but here
Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere but here