F1 2021 Season

They had the race wrapped up and Red Bull said it needed a miracle. Then the rules were broken causing them to lose. Why would they be gracious.
Yeah, I should really rephrase that, under the rules, Lewis would win and he's been robbed.
And who is to guarantee that if those cars wouldn't be let to pass Max on softs wouldn't just drive past them as they are all blue flagged and beat Hamilton.
Verstappen won, that is the end point.
 
Reading this thread and the Dutch media gives me no insight in the chance either Merc or RB have of winning this appel at all.

It's like the US elections at this point.
 
And who is to guarantee that if those cars wouldn't be let to pass Max on softs wouldn't just drive past them as they are all blue flagged and beat Hamilton.
Verstappen won, that is the end point.

:lol: If you aren't wumming, you are the most clueless poster in here.

Well, after a certain other one who's disgraced himself enough tonight that is. Though the mods could change the rules and give it to you I suppose!
 
Reading this thread and the Dutch media gives me no insight in the chance either Merc or RB have of winning this appel at all.

It's like the US elections at this point.

I see your getting a real balanced view then.
 
Problem is. To strip max of it would be unfair on the basis he did nothing wrong.
He raced to instructions. Whether right or wrong.

So many variables could have happened. Hamilton could have spun, Max could have gotten past the back markers and took Hamilton out. We don't know. All we do know is who crossed the line first.

Either Max wins it or there needs to be another way
Being unfair to Max won’t come into it. If the last lap is ruled illegal they’ll go by the results after 57 laps. That’s what the QC will be arguing anyway.
 
And who is to guarantee that if those cars wouldn't be let to pass Max on softs wouldn't just drive past them as they are all blue flagged and beat Hamilton.
Verstappen won, that is the end point.
He won by 2 seconds, just getting through those cars would have taken longer than that, and Lewis would have been off in the distance had he not immediately have to defend.
 
firstly Wolf and Horner should be hauled before the authorities for trying to influence the race director. Disgraceful.

Wolf has some serious anger problems.

Best season ever, and what an ending.
Verstappen on the course of the season deserved it in my opinion.
 
Max: Two world champions?
Lewis:
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Problem is. To strip max of it would be unfair on the basis he did nothing wrong.
He raced to instructions. Whether right or wrong.

So many variables could have happened. Hamilton could have spun, Max could have gotten past the back markers and took Hamilton out. We don't know. All we do know is who crossed the line first.

Either Max wins it or there needs to be another way

Hamilton was 11 seconds ahead with 4/5 laps remaining and Max was not making much headway.


But what *IF* Latifi doesn't crash and Hamilton's tyres get a slow puncture like Norris.
So many variables

The facts are that Latifi did crash and Hamilton finished the race without any slow puncture.
 
and you just made the hole deeper, log off and calm down before you really regret it
Nope ... the fia have changed their own rules in a way that discriminate against the only black driver and one only one who had the balls to protest the lbgqt laws in bahrain Saudi and Abu Dhabi

Either the fia admit a mistake or they issue justification
 
Yeah. If they didn't let any lapped cars past, Lewis would most likely have been 5 to 10 seconds ahead before Max was clear. What a mess. Feel bad for both drivers. Deep down Max will know his first wdc has a * appended to it at the very least. He'll get many more though.
 
So is it just always the case that whoever is leading a race when the SC is deployed always loses any gap accumulated before then?

like the race leader could be 1,5, or 10 seconds in the lead but as soon as SC is deployed it’s just given up and the race resumes with 2nd place right back with him?

if so… why?
 
This needs to be sorted ASAP, can't drag it out into pre-season. They can do count back can't they.
 
So is it just always the case that whoever is leading a race when the SC is deployed always loses any gap accumulated before then?

like the race leader could be 1,5, or 10 seconds in the lead but as soon as SC is deployed it’s just given up and the race resumes with 2nd place right back with him?

if so… why?

Presumably to give an opportunity for the marshals to safely clear up debris whilst all the cars are in one area of the track.
 
Just watching highlights from 2008 as they kept referencing it and I couldn't remember what happened

The cars looked tiny, then there was all the refuelling shenanigans too
 
Two world champions feels right to me. I would have been gutted if Lewis lost fair and square but it would have been easy to accept.

Having two winners in F1 is wrong but the best decision here because it exposed Massi and makes of him the loser of this whole affair.
 
Hamilton was 11 seconds ahead with 4/5 laps remaining and Max was not making much headway.




The facts are that Latifi did crash and Hamilton finished the race without any slow puncture.

I could throw out another fact... Verstappen won.
Also on point one, I meant after Latifi crashed. If the got racing with the backmarkers in play, for all we know, they let Verstappen passed and takes Hamilton out. 11 seconds have nothing to do with that
 
So is it just always the case that whoever is leading a race when the SC is deployed always loses any gap accumulated before then?

like the race leader could be 1,5, or 10 seconds in the lead but as soon as SC is deployed it’s just given up and the race resumes with 2nd place right back with him?

if so… why?
The intention of the SC is to bunch up the field. Have them drive as a pack in a controlled manner so that the cause for the SC, usually a crash site, can be repaired or cleaned. Wouldn't be safe for the workers if the cars weren't bunched up
 
It’s fecking crackers.. the more I think about it, the more I can’t work out why Masi did what he did. He knew that by making that call, he was handing Max the title. Lewis was a sitting duck on those tyres vs Max’s.

This is so shit for everyone. Red Bull have done nothing wrong here

Horner was on the radio pressuring him to let Max get back to second and he yeilded
 
Safety car should’ve been in earlier anyway. I was surprised they even let them race for 1 lap. I thought they’d finish under SC.
Priceless seeing that ass Wolff raging around.
 
So is it just always the case that whoever is leading a race when the SC is deployed always loses any gap accumulated before then?

like the race leader could be 1,5, or 10 seconds in the lead but as soon as SC is deployed it’s just given up and the race resumes with 2nd place right back with him?

if so… why?
Yeah that's the case, it's just part of the race really which hasn't really caused an issue until today.
 
So is it just always the case that whoever is leading a race when the SC is deployed always loses any gap accumulated before then?

like the race leader could be 1,5, or 10 seconds in the lead but as soon as SC is deployed it’s just given up and the race resumes with 2nd place right back with him?

if so… why?
I have no problem with this concept, I do have a problem when team leaders try to persuade FIA in their decision-making when to remove the safety car.
 
If you read his post and have to ask why that was my reaction then perhaps he’s not the only one.

So you don't believe in free speech then.
I asked why, because whether I agree or disagree, people are entitled to express their views on an open forum.
 
You have just got to look at Spa, gifting points to Verstappen. Then Jeddah with Verstappens reckless driving, now this. It’s a joke, I’m a fan of the sport an not an individual but in this case Hamilton has been well and truly robbed.