F1 2021 Season

Verstappens instagram post is hilarious. Red bull are really filling him with stupid ideas.
 
Definitely mate. I posted that. He was fecking brilliant. Lap after lap, The guy is the best racer I’ve ever seen. That’s not the point. I think it’s unfair. But he showed how insanely good he is and that’s something you have to admire.

There is some unfairness in there, but that's racing. When two racers who will do anything not to give way come up against each other the racing can be great, but there's also going to be some situations where they come together. It's always happened and will keep happening. I can think of Senna & Prost, Vettel & Webber, Prost & Mansell, Vettel & Hamilton and even Verstappen, Ricciardo off the top of my head. There will be a lot more I've missed.

It was a shame, but for me more because it looked like it was shaping into a potentially great race with two good drivers going at it for multiple laps.
 
Just got back to campsite, what a roasting hot day, just baked in Stowe with no cover, gutted Hamilton past leclerc before he got down to our corner but what a great win and reception he had, pleased for him
 
Unfair? No. Unlucky/unfortunate? Absolutely. Did I enjoy the win? Most definitely.

I was sad it happened, because I love the way Lewis and Max both drive and would have loved to see them race eachother.

I'm a huge fan of both drivers, and I'm happy when either win. Which makes me a little different to some in this thread I suppose, who have to hate on one because they love the other.

I think we agree in most parts. I would have loved that too. But for me it’s just the unfairness it that’s a word of driving someone off the track and gain an advantage thereby. That’s all. Just as you I hope it’s close racing between those two next race!
 
Yeah, just like Perez throwing his race to take the one point for fastest lap off Lewis. I'm sure that was entirely his idea and by no means an order from RB.
Both just prove how shit this sportvis nowadays. No point having two drivers if just one is allowed to race properly.
 
Both just prove how shit this sportvis nowadays. No point having two drivers if just one is allowed to race properly.

"Nowadays"? This has been going on for as long as I remember.
 
I agree, I believe he has been overly aggressive many times but I also believe he has developped in that respect.

He defended well but if you're hit on the rear wheel with a front wheel there isn't much you can do. Yes, he could have let Hamilton go, but that's not how sports works, he has no special rights to get the lead. He has special rights to break the rules, especially in Silverstone, but that's a different matter. It reminds me of Martin Brundle many years ago "You just don't go around the outside of Lewis Hamilton" when he pushed the other driver off. Appearently English people don't notice how ridiculously biased the British podium interviewers, the British commentary and analysis, Sky and BBC before and the British press are.

No, that self glorification, helped by Mercedes marketing at the radio and Toto in the press, is typically Hamilton.

So you feel entitled to simply project your English particularities on the Dutch? How surprising. As I also wrote in some England fans topic, every country of course has their national favourites and chauvinism, but all nations understand from eachother they're in it the same way, except the English (and the Brazilians) who believe the facts have to be adjusted to fit that, and that the other countries should be in awe and admit the English deserve it more for being English.

Mate, you’re literally projecting a holier-than-thou attitude, which is very ironic given your last paragraph. If you don’t believe Max or his fans would react in the same way then that’s fair enough, it’s a hypothetical, so I can’t argue with your viewpoint. Who knows, we might yet get to see this situation in the future.

Everything has to be so extreme in discussions at the moment. It is possible that Hamilton got lucky, max unlucky, yet Hamilton still drove well and can be allowed to celebrate winning his home Grand Prix.
 
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A man like Max maybe?
Not even Senna or Schumacher would do anything close to what Hamilton did today. I am happy that some people like u are able to argue what happened today because it means that Max is okay. But it could end very differently.
 
Teammates used to race back in the 90s

Nowadays is a fairly wide net in that case, given the 90s ended 22 years ago.

90s is when I started to get into it. Used to love watching Schumacher in that Benneton.
 
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Not even Senna or Schumacher would do anything close to what Hamilton did today. I am happy that some people like u are able to argue what happened today because it means that Max is okay. But it could end very differently.

Holy smokes. You either didn't watch them race or have a short memory.
 
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Not even Senna or Schumacher would do anything close to what Hamilton did today. I am happy that some people like u are able to argue what happened today because it means that Max is okay. But it could end very differently.
What on earth?
 
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Not even Senna or Schumacher would do anything close to what Hamilton did today. I am happy that some people like u are able to argue what happened today because it means that Max is okay. But it could end very differently.
They have both purposely ended a race for their competitor….
 
Troll post, that’s not a real opinion based on any sort of fact. Actually a laughable effort.
 
Holy smokes. You either didn't watch them race or have a short memory.
There is a reason I mentioned those 2, because after all controversy they had they never put fellow driver into 51g accident.
 
There is a reason I mentioned those 2, because after all controversy they had they never put fellow driver into 51g accident.
you’re definitely trolling.

Senna is my hero and he did way worse with prost, hamilton didn’t even do it intentionally ffs :lol:

then you get schumacher with damon hill, his crashing at monaco qualifying on purpose etc.
 
Verstappens instagram post is hilarious. Red bull are really filling him with stupid ideas.
Was obvious that Horner would mismanage this situation after watching his interview. Max will now be riled up to drive even more dangerously than he has done in the past.
 
Yes it should be about racing but it really isn’t. Not when all teams can give team orders then its nit RACING. We will never see teammates race probably which is shame and cancer to the sport.

You may not be aware, but this sort of statement is banned, or severely frowned upon, on this forum. It's F1, it's nothing like cancer.
 
Was obvious that Horner would mismanage this situation after watching his interview. Max will now be riled up to drive even more dangerously than he has done in the past.
The only guy who’s been driving dangerously this season is the clown who sent him into the wall.
 
you’re definitely trolling.

Senna is my hero and he did way worse with prost, hamilton didn’t even do it intentionally ffs :lol:

then you get schumacher with damon hill, his crashing at monaco qualifying on purpose etc.
Well we differ on the point that Hamilton did not do it on purpose. I rate Hamilton very highly but that is also a reason why I think he did it on purpose.
To be exact I don't think he crashed on purpose but he put the car in Max path on purpose so Max would have to go off or extremely slow down to avoid accident and Max didn't do it (probably because he thought Hamilton would not put the car there and wasn't checking it).
And that decision by Hamilton was much worse and much more dangerous then Senna ramming Prost or Schumacher ramming Hill or Villeneuve.
 
Was obvious that Horner would mismanage this situation after watching his interview. Max will now be riled up to drive even more dangerously than he has done in the past.
To be honest he act's and races like the spoiled kid he is and this might be the first time "everyone" isn't on his side.
 
The only guy who’s been driving dangerously this season is the clown who sent him into the wall.
If you think that you've not been watching the races.

Lewis has had to back out of multiple corners because Maxs approach is you back out or we crash. Many drivers have had this experience with him.
 
Yes it should be about racing but it really isn’t. Not when all teams can give team orders then its nit RACING. We will never see teammates race probably which is shame and cancer to the sport.

Please feck off with that shit
 
Well we differ on the point that Hamilton did not do it on purpose. I rate Hamilton very highly but that is also a reason why I think he did it on purpose.
To be exact I don't think he crashed on purpose but he put the car in Max path on purpose so Max would have to go off or extremely slow down to avoid accident and Max didn't do it (probably because he thought Hamilton would not put the car there and wasn't checking it).
And that decision by Hamilton was much worse and much more dangerous then Senna ramming Prost or Schumacher ramming Hill or Villeneuve.

What on earth, this place is hilarious sometimes :lol:
 
I stopped watching F1 few years ago, but Hamiltom did the same move few times already, are we sure he is not doing it on purpose at this point?









I mean, from racing perspective it's a brilliant move(two videos from previous years), but to do it at that speed to a colleague is emotionless and cnutish behaviour.
 
Well we differ on the point that Hamilton did not do it on purpose. I rate Hamilton very highly but that is also a reason why I think he did it on purpose.
To be exact I don't think he crashed on purpose but he put the car in Max path on purpose so Max would have to go off or extremely slow down to avoid accident and Max didn't do it (probably because he thought Hamilton would not put the car there and wasn't checking it).
And that decision by Hamilton was much worse and much more dangerous then Senna ramming Prost or Schumacher ramming Hill or Villeneuve.
:lol: racing isn’t for you pal.

it’s akin to a 50:50 tackle in football, most of the time it’s hard and fair but sometimes it goes wrong and somebody ends up getting hurt.

most sensible people recognise this as just something that happens, nobody is to blame in total.

trying to say hamilton caused an accident on purpose is just total BS. he tries to overtake him with a huge speed advantage, they end up in a bottle neck side by side and run out of room, contact happens. simple.
 
Well we differ on the point that Hamilton did not do it on purpose. I rate Hamilton very highly but that is also a reason why I think he did it on purpose.
To be exact I don't think he crashed on purpose but he put the car in Max path on purpose so Max would have to go off or extremely slow down to avoid accident and Max didn't do it (probably because he thought Hamilton would not put the car there and wasn't checking it).
And that decision by Hamilton was much worse and much more dangerous then Senna ramming Prost or Schumacher ramming Hill or Villeneuve.

That just cannot be true. It didn't involve blatant cheating to win a championship, and Senna's move on Prost was a direct response to what Prost did the year before, which was just as bad.
 
Why are people choosing today to be bothered by team orders. If Bottas was in title contention I would understand, but he had the chance to catch the Ferrari and couldn’t. It wasn’t about Hamilton and Bottas not racing, it was about making sure they could put one of their cars on top of the podium. Happens in the midfield in most races without people batting an eyelid.
 
Verstappens history is clear. He is dangerous. Multiple moves to defend in one straight repeatedly, for a start.

Look at the Raikonnen incident. He did exactly the same in front of Hamilton.

 
Why are people choosing today to be bothered by team orders. If Bottas was in title contention I would understand, but he had the chance to catch the Ferrari and couldn’t. It wasn’t about Hamilton and Bottas not racing, it was about making sure they could put one of their cars on top of the podium. Happens in the midfield in most races without people batting an eyelid.
I think it's only one person.
 
Why are people choosing today to be bothered by team orders. If Bottas was in title contention I would understand, but he had the chance to catch the Ferrari and couldn’t. It wasn’t about Hamilton and Bottas not racing, it was about making sure they could put one of their cars on top of the podium. Happens in the midfield in most races without people batting an eyelid.
Not just today, I have post about it for many years here on RedCafe.
 
That just cannot be true. It didn't involve blatant cheating to win a championship, and Senna's move on Prost was a direct response to what Prost did the year before, which was just as bad.
Well since we are in football forum what is worse? Tripping a guy in 90th minute so he doesn't go 1vs1 with goalkeeper or going for a leg braker in the middle of the match to win the ball?